1 00:00:24,330 --> 00:00:18,400 [Music] 2 00:00:39,730 --> 00:00:24,340 so 3 00:02:05,190 --> 00:00:50,380 [Music] 4 00:02:10,949 --> 00:02:07,749 greetings and salutations friends and 5 00:02:13,430 --> 00:02:10,959 welcome back with my apologies we tried 6 00:02:17,670 --> 00:02:13,440 to air our interview with john william 7 00:02:19,190 --> 00:02:17,680 warner iv earlier today uh but it's it 8 00:02:21,350 --> 00:02:19,200 was completely my fault what happened 9 00:02:23,589 --> 00:02:21,360 what happened was i was dming him on 10 00:02:26,630 --> 00:02:23,599 twitter with the link to join the show 11 00:02:28,229 --> 00:02:26,640 and he had emailed me earlier going 12 00:02:30,470 --> 00:02:28,239 where's the link to the show are we 13 00:02:32,550 --> 00:02:30,480 still on and as 14 00:02:34,869 --> 00:02:32,560 these things happen i didn't check my 15 00:02:38,070 --> 00:02:34,879 email and he didn't check his twitter 16 00:02:40,949 --> 00:02:38,080 but i'm happy to say that uh mr warner 17 00:02:42,710 --> 00:02:40,959 is here with us and everything is okay 18 00:02:43,990 --> 00:02:42,720 let's bring him right in here 19 00:02:46,150 --> 00:02:44,000 mr 20 00:02:48,070 --> 00:02:46,160 john warner good to see you 21 00:02:49,990 --> 00:02:48,080 what's up 22 00:02:52,550 --> 00:02:50,000 you know it makes us look both like 23 00:02:55,910 --> 00:02:52,560 idiots you know we're like 24 00:02:57,910 --> 00:02:55,920 crazy no bad shows i know that you know 25 00:02:59,589 --> 00:02:57,920 what though it's it's good because i 26 00:03:02,229 --> 00:02:59,599 gave everybody a really nice 27 00:03:03,910 --> 00:03:02,239 introduction to you some of your history 28 00:03:05,430 --> 00:03:03,920 your father's history which is 29 00:03:08,630 --> 00:03:05,440 incredible 30 00:03:10,229 --> 00:03:08,640 and uh and and uh i told everybody about 31 00:03:12,070 --> 00:03:10,239 your book we read the whole description 32 00:03:14,470 --> 00:03:12,080 from amazon while i was trying to fill 33 00:03:16,869 --> 00:03:14,480 time so you got a good plugin already 34 00:03:19,589 --> 00:03:16,879 and hey you're a big guest so i can milk 35 00:03:23,110 --> 00:03:19,599 this we've got part two parts we have a 36 00:03:25,750 --> 00:03:23,120 big build up and then here we are so 37 00:03:27,910 --> 00:03:25,760 sorry sorry folks 38 00:03:29,750 --> 00:03:27,920 i've been joking i've been joking with 39 00:03:31,910 --> 00:03:29,760 mr warner that he's a member of the 40 00:03:32,789 --> 00:03:31,920 illuminati and i thought that he was 41 00:03:35,110 --> 00:03:32,799 busy 42 00:03:37,190 --> 00:03:35,120 with the illuminati business i thought 43 00:03:39,030 --> 00:03:37,200 maybe he's busy with illuminati stuff 44 00:03:41,270 --> 00:03:39,040 and he couldn't do the interview right 45 00:03:43,910 --> 00:03:41,280 well you know the sacrifice for the 46 00:03:48,229 --> 00:03:43,920 church and you know 47 00:03:53,350 --> 00:03:51,030 illuminati is a catch-all term it really 48 00:03:55,589 --> 00:03:53,360 only means the illumined ones 49 00:03:57,990 --> 00:03:55,599 uh you could be dark or positive it 50 00:03:59,910 --> 00:03:58,000 doesn't matter you're illumined so 51 00:04:02,789 --> 00:03:59,920 really everyone in the disclosure moving 52 00:04:04,470 --> 00:04:02,799 all your fans we're all illuminati 53 00:04:06,149 --> 00:04:04,480 uh oh i guess we are 54 00:04:08,789 --> 00:04:06,159 but generally don't that don't people 55 00:04:10,710 --> 00:04:08,799 mean that like rich one percent ruling 56 00:04:11,910 --> 00:04:10,720 class that hold on well they're not 57 00:04:13,830 --> 00:04:11,920 illumined 58 00:04:18,550 --> 00:04:13,840 i 59 00:04:21,509 --> 00:04:18,560 just thought um 60 00:04:23,909 --> 00:04:21,519 illuminati that's good and it's stuck 61 00:04:27,590 --> 00:04:23,919 and it's like go back to the bavarian 62 00:04:29,430 --> 00:04:27,600 illuminati in you know in 1780s you know 63 00:04:31,909 --> 00:04:29,440 it it just meant a group of people who 64 00:04:34,629 --> 00:04:31,919 were illumined with of course the gift 65 00:04:35,830 --> 00:04:34,639 of the lamp or occult mystery school 66 00:04:38,390 --> 00:04:35,840 information 67 00:04:41,110 --> 00:04:38,400 free masonic stuff as well and so that's 68 00:04:42,950 --> 00:04:41,120 all it really meant uh where 69 00:04:44,790 --> 00:04:42,960 you know i can tell you 70 00:04:47,909 --> 00:04:44,800 a lot of these rich you know committee 71 00:04:49,830 --> 00:04:47,919 of 300 people oh no they're not 72 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:49,840 you got me started down this committee 73 00:04:54,310 --> 00:04:52,720 of 300 rabbit hole too by the way 74 00:04:55,830 --> 00:04:54,320 for those of you can you explain what 75 00:04:57,350 --> 00:04:55,840 that is for those that don't know 76 00:05:01,110 --> 00:04:57,360 because your family is certainly 77 00:05:03,189 --> 00:05:01,120 included in that yes it is and um i 78 00:05:06,070 --> 00:05:03,199 figured it i found out about it maybe 20 79 00:05:08,310 --> 00:05:06,080 years ago i'd read something about it um 80 00:05:10,070 --> 00:05:08,320 i'm not sure who came up with all the 81 00:05:13,350 --> 00:05:10,080 you know the pyramid and the committee 82 00:05:14,950 --> 00:05:13,360 of 300 but it does make some sense 83 00:05:16,950 --> 00:05:14,960 um 84 00:05:18,070 --> 00:05:16,960 uh sometimes the lists of families 85 00:05:21,029 --> 00:05:18,080 change 86 00:05:23,510 --> 00:05:21,039 uh but really it's the these top 87 00:05:24,950 --> 00:05:23,520 families in america as far as financial 88 00:05:26,550 --> 00:05:24,960 wealth and influence 89 00:05:28,710 --> 00:05:26,560 and that is true 90 00:05:30,469 --> 00:05:28,720 uh i mean my great-grandfather was you 91 00:05:31,830 --> 00:05:30,479 know billionaire robber baron my 92 00:05:33,350 --> 00:05:31,840 grandfather was a billionaire robert 93 00:05:36,230 --> 00:05:33,360 baron 94 00:05:38,790 --> 00:05:36,240 and a spook a d yes for those that don't 95 00:05:41,670 --> 00:05:38,800 know mr warner is not just related to 96 00:05:44,150 --> 00:05:41,680 former senator warren john uh john 97 00:05:45,590 --> 00:05:44,160 william warner the third not related to 98 00:05:48,150 --> 00:05:45,600 mark warner 99 00:05:50,070 --> 00:05:48,160 yeah i i i heard so many but somebody 100 00:05:52,150 --> 00:05:50,080 asked that there's a new senator warren 101 00:05:54,150 --> 00:05:52,160 from virginia that's no relation to you 102 00:05:56,390 --> 00:05:54,160 but then the other side of your family 103 00:05:57,830 --> 00:05:56,400 comes from the melon family from 104 00:06:00,230 --> 00:05:57,840 carnegie mellon that's the committee of 105 00:06:01,830 --> 00:06:00,240 300 side the warners 106 00:06:03,830 --> 00:06:01,840 are not my dad 107 00:06:05,590 --> 00:06:03,840 my grandfather was a world war one army 108 00:06:07,909 --> 00:06:05,600 doctor they were strictly middle-class 109 00:06:10,070 --> 00:06:07,919 people middle-class working people yeah 110 00:06:12,710 --> 00:06:10,080 pretty much i mean your dad married up 111 00:06:14,150 --> 00:06:12,720 right your dad married up 112 00:06:15,990 --> 00:06:14,160 i mean during the depression my 113 00:06:18,469 --> 00:06:16,000 grandfather you know my father and uncle 114 00:06:21,590 --> 00:06:18,479 were little kids uh you know he used to 115 00:06:23,510 --> 00:06:21,600 get he was a gynecologist and a surgeon 116 00:06:25,990 --> 00:06:23,520 sometimes people would pay him in shoes 117 00:06:28,790 --> 00:06:26,000 or chickens or 118 00:06:32,629 --> 00:06:30,790 that's funny my brother was a mechanic 119 00:06:34,550 --> 00:06:32,639 and he had a shop in a bad neighborhood 120 00:06:36,230 --> 00:06:34,560 and back before they went to cards for 121 00:06:38,150 --> 00:06:36,240 food stamps people would try to pay him 122 00:06:40,390 --> 00:06:38,160 in food stamps all the time and he had a 123 00:06:42,469 --> 00:06:40,400 family so he was like okay yeah it's 124 00:06:43,749 --> 00:06:42,479 going to be you know 125 00:06:46,469 --> 00:06:43,759 you know 126 00:06:48,950 --> 00:06:46,479 yeah well the uh no it's the melons that 127 00:06:51,990 --> 00:06:48,960 are you know my cousin chris mellon of 128 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:52,000 the uap task force or whatever yeah 129 00:06:56,150 --> 00:06:54,240 you've been very critical of mr mellon 130 00:06:57,510 --> 00:06:56,160 and and i don't tend to agree with most 131 00:06:59,350 --> 00:06:57,520 of what you 132 00:07:01,430 --> 00:06:59,360 because you lay out some reason you're 133 00:07:03,830 --> 00:07:01,440 not just trashing them you're you're 134 00:07:05,749 --> 00:07:03,840 you're questioning his motives his 135 00:07:07,510 --> 00:07:05,759 connections to the cia or other 136 00:07:09,189 --> 00:07:07,520 governments i mean 137 00:07:10,629 --> 00:07:09,199 i know chris i've met his family they're 138 00:07:12,710 --> 00:07:10,639 wonderful people 139 00:07:14,629 --> 00:07:12,720 chris is a nice guy it's just you know 140 00:07:17,110 --> 00:07:14,639 we're on opposite ends of the table it's 141 00:07:19,830 --> 00:07:17,120 nothing personal it's just business 142 00:07:22,309 --> 00:07:19,840 and you know i you know i don't hate him 143 00:07:24,469 --> 00:07:22,319 i don't dislike him at all um i'm just 144 00:07:27,510 --> 00:07:24,479 disappointed in his 145 00:07:29,830 --> 00:07:27,520 version of uh ufo disclosure and you 146 00:07:32,309 --> 00:07:29,840 know him and lui elizondo and hal put 147 00:07:35,189 --> 00:07:32,319 off and all those ttsa people 148 00:07:36,950 --> 00:07:35,199 and everyone now marco rubio and senator 149 00:07:39,430 --> 00:07:36,960 you know gillibrand and all the other 150 00:07:41,589 --> 00:07:39,440 people sort of glommed on you know my 151 00:07:43,510 --> 00:07:41,599 new favorite is ross cool tart 152 00:07:45,670 --> 00:07:43,520 who is a faint you know well-known 153 00:07:48,309 --> 00:07:45,680 journalist from 60 minutes and other 154 00:07:50,390 --> 00:07:48,319 things and now he's on board is sort of 155 00:07:52,710 --> 00:07:50,400 this lightweight you know doesn't really 156 00:07:54,469 --> 00:07:52,720 know anything about ufos 157 00:07:55,270 --> 00:07:54,479 you know just they're all sort of you 158 00:08:01,430 --> 00:07:55,280 know 159 00:08:03,270 --> 00:08:01,440 it was it was the third rail 160 00:08:06,070 --> 00:08:03,280 you didn't talk about it you know and 161 00:08:08,869 --> 00:08:06,080 then in 2017 all of a sudden it's okay 162 00:08:11,029 --> 00:08:08,879 to talk about it and it's like okay 163 00:08:14,070 --> 00:08:11,039 you know i gave him a fair shot i waited 164 00:08:16,390 --> 00:08:14,080 three four years before you know i had 165 00:08:17,589 --> 00:08:16,400 enough of the the lies and 166 00:08:19,749 --> 00:08:17,599 and they are lying that you know 167 00:08:21,990 --> 00:08:19,759 sometimes they lie by a mission 168 00:08:24,309 --> 00:08:22,000 they have plausible deniability you know 169 00:08:26,710 --> 00:08:24,319 the tic tacs or lockheed martin is what 170 00:08:28,950 --> 00:08:26,720 i've been told so when they do disclose 171 00:08:30,550 --> 00:08:28,960 oh see the tic tacs aren't e.t they're 172 00:08:32,149 --> 00:08:30,560 lockheed martin and so they have all 173 00:08:34,149 --> 00:08:32,159 these fallbacks 174 00:08:36,709 --> 00:08:34,159 you know that's typical uh you know 175 00:08:39,909 --> 00:08:36,719 intel community stuff did you know john 176 00:08:42,790 --> 00:08:39,919 that uh that lou elizondo has almost 177 00:08:45,269 --> 00:08:42,800 always lived within 30 minutes of a 178 00:08:46,949 --> 00:08:45,279 major lockheed facility 179 00:08:48,389 --> 00:08:46,959 isn't that interesting that is 180 00:08:50,630 --> 00:08:48,399 interesting um 181 00:08:53,670 --> 00:08:50,640 yeah i call him lockheed lou for a 182 00:08:55,509 --> 00:08:53,680 reason i think he loses i think that 183 00:08:57,829 --> 00:08:55,519 he's on the payroll tell those people 184 00:08:59,590 --> 00:08:57,839 it's aliens lou well they're on mcr 185 00:09:00,949 --> 00:08:59,600 black projects right 186 00:09:02,389 --> 00:09:00,959 i don't think chris millen's on a 187 00:09:04,470 --> 00:09:02,399 payroll he doesn't need he's a fellow 188 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:04,480 millionaire you know but he's he's come 189 00:09:08,630 --> 00:09:06,640 out of retirement to do this 190 00:09:11,430 --> 00:09:08,640 probably out of some distorted 191 00:09:13,190 --> 00:09:11,440 version of patriotism where he thinks 192 00:09:14,470 --> 00:09:13,200 in a patrician way 193 00:09:16,389 --> 00:09:14,480 that uh 194 00:09:18,230 --> 00:09:16,399 we need you know 195 00:09:21,829 --> 00:09:18,240 the american people can't handle it and 196 00:09:23,750 --> 00:09:21,839 they've got to handle it not us and uh 197 00:09:26,790 --> 00:09:23,760 you know they'll dole out the truth with 198 00:09:29,190 --> 00:09:26,800 a dropper or and sometimes not at all 199 00:09:31,990 --> 00:09:29,200 and they think that's truly best 200 00:09:33,190 --> 00:09:32,000 uh and i will give him one point 201 00:09:36,790 --> 00:09:33,200 um 202 00:09:39,190 --> 00:09:36,800 you know the stuff i've been talking 203 00:09:40,630 --> 00:09:39,200 about uh human trafficking and 204 00:09:42,389 --> 00:09:40,640 bank fraud and 205 00:09:44,389 --> 00:09:42,399 you know all this stuff that that's so 206 00:09:46,389 --> 00:09:44,399 that possible 207 00:09:49,030 --> 00:09:46,399 that could be funding streams for all 208 00:09:49,750 --> 00:09:49,040 this you know ufo back engineering usap 209 00:09:51,430 --> 00:09:49,760 and 210 00:09:53,590 --> 00:09:51,440 unacknowledged projects 211 00:09:54,870 --> 00:09:53,600 uh that's you know it's not just me 212 00:09:55,829 --> 00:09:54,880 there's other people who have come up 213 00:09:56,870 --> 00:09:55,839 with that 214 00:09:59,190 --> 00:09:56,880 but 215 00:10:01,750 --> 00:09:59,200 there will be some panic and and 216 00:10:04,389 --> 00:10:01,760 actually a guy um i was listening to a 217 00:10:07,190 --> 00:10:04,399 podcast and a guy who says he's a 218 00:10:09,829 --> 00:10:07,200 contact eve to an alien group i think it 219 00:10:11,910 --> 00:10:09,839 was the arcturians and he said look 220 00:10:13,990 --> 00:10:11,920 they said that disclosure can't happen 221 00:10:16,150 --> 00:10:14,000 too fast because a lot of people around 222 00:10:18,389 --> 00:10:16,160 the world will lose faith in religions 223 00:10:20,790 --> 00:10:18,399 and commit suicide 224 00:10:22,069 --> 00:10:20,800 yeah i don't see that happening 225 00:10:24,069 --> 00:10:22,079 uh 226 00:10:25,829 --> 00:10:24,079 i think they have a whole thing 227 00:10:27,509 --> 00:10:25,839 really do you think that if we 228 00:10:29,910 --> 00:10:27,519 fail now tomorrow that there was an 229 00:10:31,350 --> 00:10:29,920 intel other intelligent species in the 230 00:10:32,550 --> 00:10:31,360 universe 231 00:10:34,069 --> 00:10:32,560 do you think people would really kill 232 00:10:35,590 --> 00:10:34,079 themselves because we've got like the 233 00:10:37,750 --> 00:10:35,600 vatican right 234 00:10:40,310 --> 00:10:37,760 you know the vatican is preparing people 235 00:10:41,110 --> 00:10:40,320 for that possibility it's true it's not 236 00:10:44,230 --> 00:10:41,120 that 237 00:10:45,990 --> 00:10:44,240 alone in the universe i think most 238 00:10:47,190 --> 00:10:46,000 people around the world are coming to 239 00:10:49,670 --> 00:10:47,200 grips with that 240 00:10:52,150 --> 00:10:49,680 it's the dirty deals and the potential 241 00:10:55,750 --> 00:10:52,160 dirty laundry we've done 242 00:10:58,310 --> 00:10:55,760 for all that ufo technology if that's 243 00:11:00,389 --> 00:10:58,320 leaked out all at once 244 00:11:04,470 --> 00:11:00,399 it's a pretty hefty load of you know 245 00:11:07,030 --> 00:11:04,480 epstein quality and worse stuff 246 00:11:09,110 --> 00:11:07,040 and uh i'm not happy talking about it 247 00:11:10,790 --> 00:11:09,120 i'm not comfortable but i will because 248 00:11:13,110 --> 00:11:10,800 it's distinct possibilities i mean this 249 00:11:15,670 --> 00:11:13,120 is a dirty world i've been around it for 250 00:11:18,550 --> 00:11:15,680 60 years i'm 60 years old i've traveled 251 00:11:21,110 --> 00:11:18,560 all over with my dad and i'll tell you 252 00:11:23,590 --> 00:11:21,120 i've been to war zones and 253 00:11:26,230 --> 00:11:23,600 i mean in my view the whole world is 254 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:26,240 under soft fascism every country 255 00:11:30,949 --> 00:11:28,560 some are more looks at have you seen 256 00:11:34,630 --> 00:11:30,959 australia lately oh my god what's going 257 00:11:39,430 --> 00:11:37,750 a medium fascism that's overt and that's 258 00:11:41,670 --> 00:11:39,440 very disturbing 259 00:11:45,030 --> 00:11:41,680 and it's right now in the open now yeah 260 00:11:47,350 --> 00:11:45,040 yeah it's very disturbing and so 261 00:11:49,430 --> 00:11:47,360 yeah i think you know 262 00:11:51,670 --> 00:11:49,440 when people talk about disclosure not 263 00:11:53,990 --> 00:11:51,680 that we should hold back but 264 00:11:58,790 --> 00:11:56,870 disclosing all that dirty laundry 265 00:12:00,310 --> 00:11:58,800 whatever the truth is because i don't 266 00:12:03,269 --> 00:12:00,320 claim to know the truth 267 00:12:03,910 --> 00:12:03,279 you know i i have educated speculation 268 00:12:05,350 --> 00:12:03,920 and 269 00:12:07,910 --> 00:12:05,360 opinions but 270 00:12:09,190 --> 00:12:07,920 you know it could really i mean there 271 00:12:11,509 --> 00:12:09,200 are some very 272 00:12:13,110 --> 00:12:11,519 uh no offense to anyone but very simple 273 00:12:15,590 --> 00:12:13,120 very religious you know people that have 274 00:12:18,150 --> 00:12:15,600 put all their eggs in one basket 275 00:12:21,350 --> 00:12:18,160 and when you destroy that hard floral 276 00:12:23,110 --> 00:12:21,360 reality uh for people uh 277 00:12:25,670 --> 00:12:23,120 yeah i could see i could see some of 278 00:12:27,350 --> 00:12:25,680 that happening sadly um 279 00:12:29,030 --> 00:12:27,360 yeah you know what you're right on 280 00:12:30,389 --> 00:12:29,040 second thought i i think i could see 281 00:12:32,310 --> 00:12:30,399 some people because it would destroy 282 00:12:34,550 --> 00:12:32,320 their paradigm and all their beliefs 283 00:12:36,310 --> 00:12:34,560 would go out the window yeah i mean all 284 00:12:39,350 --> 00:12:36,320 of us in the disclosure movement you 285 00:12:42,230 --> 00:12:39,360 know from mild to wild um you know we 286 00:12:44,069 --> 00:12:42,240 can hack it because we've had years or 287 00:12:45,910 --> 00:12:44,079 in my case decades 288 00:12:48,150 --> 00:12:45,920 or in other people's their whole lives 289 00:12:50,710 --> 00:12:48,160 preparing for it 290 00:12:52,710 --> 00:12:50,720 but son of a [\h__\h] man 291 00:12:54,389 --> 00:12:52,720 if a lot of that stuff is true it is 292 00:12:58,150 --> 00:12:54,399 beyond disgusting 293 00:13:00,230 --> 00:12:58,160 i mean we've sold out the human race 294 00:13:01,829 --> 00:13:00,240 yeah we have i think certain certain 295 00:13:04,150 --> 00:13:01,839 groups have so yeah i was just going to 296 00:13:05,670 --> 00:13:04,160 say that certain one percent ruling 297 00:13:06,710 --> 00:13:05,680 class 298 00:13:08,629 --> 00:13:06,720 yeah 299 00:13:10,629 --> 00:13:08,639 i wrote a i wrote i'll send you this 300 00:13:12,550 --> 00:13:10,639 report i wrote for some people who 301 00:13:14,310 --> 00:13:12,560 wanted my opinion on what do you think 302 00:13:16,550 --> 00:13:14,320 the deep state is going to disclose in 303 00:13:18,389 --> 00:13:16,560 the next 15 years 304 00:13:19,509 --> 00:13:18,399 and i spent a few days on it to make 305 00:13:21,509 --> 00:13:19,519 sure i did it 306 00:13:25,030 --> 00:13:21,519 to the best of my ability and you know 307 00:13:27,509 --> 00:13:25,040 there is one remote possibility 308 00:13:29,509 --> 00:13:27,519 it's the remotest one but it is 309 00:13:31,990 --> 00:13:29,519 something that crossed my mind 310 00:13:33,670 --> 00:13:32,000 you know chris millen and lou and rubio 311 00:13:36,949 --> 00:13:33,680 and gillibrand and this whole you know 312 00:13:38,629 --> 00:13:36,959 pentagon uap task force uap office 313 00:13:41,829 --> 00:13:38,639 [\h__\h] 314 00:13:43,110 --> 00:13:41,839 um this you know disclosure 315 00:13:44,310 --> 00:13:43,120 initiative 316 00:13:47,110 --> 00:13:44,320 um 317 00:13:48,870 --> 00:13:47,120 you know one thing they are doing 318 00:13:50,870 --> 00:13:48,880 and i'm here today to prove i mean 319 00:13:52,949 --> 00:13:50,880 they've stimulated certain certain 320 00:13:54,710 --> 00:13:52,959 factions of the disclosure movement to 321 00:13:57,670 --> 00:13:54,720 up their game 322 00:14:00,470 --> 00:13:57,680 because it's such a blatantly you know 323 00:14:02,790 --> 00:14:00,480 goofy dumb lying misdirecting 324 00:14:04,870 --> 00:14:02,800 distracting initiative 325 00:14:06,790 --> 00:14:04,880 and so i thought [\h__\h] 326 00:14:08,870 --> 00:14:06,800 are they trying to get us to do their 327 00:14:10,790 --> 00:14:08,880 jobs for them 328 00:14:11,990 --> 00:14:10,800 because there may be elements in the 329 00:14:13,910 --> 00:14:12,000 deep state 330 00:14:16,310 --> 00:14:13,920 around the world that are much worse 331 00:14:18,470 --> 00:14:16,320 much more fascist and say if you if you 332 00:14:21,189 --> 00:14:18,480 guys over there you know in the pentagon 333 00:14:23,829 --> 00:14:21,199 cia if you do disclose too much we'll 334 00:14:25,670 --> 00:14:23,839 split in the earth in half we don't give 335 00:14:27,750 --> 00:14:25,680 a [\h__\h] 336 00:14:29,350 --> 00:14:27,760 yeah it could be and they're like [\h__\h] 337 00:14:31,110 --> 00:14:29,360 okay how do we disclose without 338 00:14:33,269 --> 00:14:31,120 disclosing and 339 00:14:35,430 --> 00:14:33,279 a rem it's a remote possibility but they 340 00:14:37,990 --> 00:14:35,440 definitely have stimulated a lot of us 341 00:14:40,870 --> 00:14:38,000 grier and you know daniel list and you 342 00:14:43,350 --> 00:14:40,880 and me and and everyone who stand i 343 00:14:45,030 --> 00:14:43,360 think in equal stead with all everyone 344 00:14:46,710 --> 00:14:45,040 in the disclosure movement 345 00:14:47,590 --> 00:14:46,720 stands as equals 346 00:14:49,269 --> 00:14:47,600 you know 347 00:14:50,790 --> 00:14:49,279 they've really lit a fire under our 348 00:14:52,230 --> 00:14:50,800 asses 349 00:14:53,670 --> 00:14:52,240 yeah you're right about that it does 350 00:14:55,670 --> 00:14:53,680 seem they really have 351 00:14:57,750 --> 00:14:55,680 they have helped to make 352 00:15:00,550 --> 00:14:57,760 the discussion more mainstream they've 353 00:15:02,870 --> 00:15:00,560 helped to make more coverage on on 354 00:15:04,949 --> 00:15:02,880 mainstream media but even though but 355 00:15:06,870 --> 00:15:04,959 that kind of bothers me too because then 356 00:15:09,670 --> 00:15:06,880 we get these personalities that are kind 357 00:15:11,350 --> 00:15:09,680 of fake you know uh or embellished 358 00:15:13,910 --> 00:15:11,360 backgrounds that are suddenly ufo 359 00:15:14,790 --> 00:15:13,920 experts all over mainstream media there 360 00:15:17,829 --> 00:15:14,800 you go 361 00:15:20,870 --> 00:15:17,839 it's rife with [\h__\h] and 362 00:15:23,189 --> 00:15:20,880 the answer is so it's probably 363 00:15:25,590 --> 00:15:23,199 maybe not that but that is a remote 364 00:15:27,750 --> 00:15:25,600 possibility the real possibility i think 365 00:15:29,670 --> 00:15:27,760 that's coming down the road in a few 366 00:15:32,150 --> 00:15:29,680 years is 367 00:15:33,590 --> 00:15:32,160 they disclose maybe 368 00:15:35,670 --> 00:15:33,600 30 369 00:15:38,389 --> 00:15:35,680 of everything and then they say sure 370 00:15:40,629 --> 00:15:38,399 we've got bases on the moon and mars and 371 00:15:42,790 --> 00:15:40,639 we're mining asteroids and we're doing 372 00:15:46,230 --> 00:15:42,800 trade with a lot of et's and stuff like 373 00:15:48,150 --> 00:15:46,240 that and yeah you know uh 374 00:15:49,910 --> 00:15:48,160 blah blah blah and 375 00:15:51,749 --> 00:15:49,920 what are you gonna do about it have a 376 00:15:52,829 --> 00:15:51,759 nice day 377 00:15:55,829 --> 00:15:52,839 yeah 378 00:15:57,430 --> 00:15:55,839 because if it's like it's like the nazis 379 00:15:58,629 --> 00:15:57,440 after a while they were like [\h__\h] yeah 380 00:15:59,829 --> 00:15:58,639 we're fascists what are you going to do 381 00:16:01,509 --> 00:15:59,839 about it 382 00:16:03,110 --> 00:16:01,519 and everyone's like i thought we were 383 00:16:04,550 --> 00:16:03,120 going to vote you know everyone thought 384 00:16:07,350 --> 00:16:04,560 they were going to vote hitler out in 385 00:16:09,430 --> 00:16:07,360 the next election and they're like no no 386 00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:09,440 yeah there's no more elections hair 387 00:16:12,550 --> 00:16:11,040 growth i'm just gonna get on the radio 388 00:16:14,710 --> 00:16:12,560 and tell you what to think you know you 389 00:16:17,829 --> 00:16:14,720 know we i want to get into that because 390 00:16:20,389 --> 00:16:17,839 you and i share a particular fascination 391 00:16:22,870 --> 00:16:20,399 with world war ii history 392 00:16:25,910 --> 00:16:22,880 and especially when it comes to some of 393 00:16:29,189 --> 00:16:25,920 the secret parts of the nazi government 394 00:16:32,069 --> 00:16:29,199 their programs their weapons development 395 00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:32,079 the esoteric parts of the nazi movement 396 00:16:37,189 --> 00:16:33,920 where they were looking for 397 00:16:38,949 --> 00:16:37,199 strange esoteric objects and 398 00:16:40,949 --> 00:16:38,959 and they were looking for power they 399 00:16:42,949 --> 00:16:40,959 they got the spear of destiny they were 400 00:16:44,870 --> 00:16:42,959 looking for the holy grail 401 00:16:47,269 --> 00:16:44,880 yeah and all of these other things it's 402 00:16:49,350 --> 00:16:47,279 fascinating to me i i believe that was 403 00:16:51,030 --> 00:16:49,360 secondary stuff 404 00:16:53,269 --> 00:16:51,040 the the ark of the covenant they really 405 00:16:55,670 --> 00:16:53,279 were looking for all that the on an 406 00:16:58,550 --> 00:16:55,680 airbay ss which is the ancestral you 407 00:17:00,550 --> 00:16:58,560 know archaeological wing of the ss 408 00:17:02,310 --> 00:17:00,560 which is fascinating right hitler sent 409 00:17:03,670 --> 00:17:02,320 all these guys out all over the world to 410 00:17:06,230 --> 00:17:03,680 go games 411 00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:06,240 hitler didn't himmler did hitler yes 412 00:17:11,029 --> 00:17:08,959 hitler was into some of the colton tula 413 00:17:12,390 --> 00:17:11,039 society everyone thinks he wasn't oh yes 414 00:17:17,590 --> 00:17:12,400 he was 415 00:17:21,189 --> 00:17:17,600 he and himmler and the other nazi ss 416 00:17:24,230 --> 00:17:21,199 hierarchy had all read the book by um 417 00:17:26,230 --> 00:17:24,240 beau warlin the coming race which was 418 00:17:28,710 --> 00:17:26,240 written in the late 19th century and it 419 00:17:31,510 --> 00:17:28,720 described a man's journey to inner earth 420 00:17:35,029 --> 00:17:31,520 meeting with aldebaran et's that worship 421 00:17:37,669 --> 00:17:35,039 the black sun and they were the vrylia 422 00:17:39,510 --> 00:17:37,679 and so real energy is chi prana we all 423 00:17:40,549 --> 00:17:39,520 have it and so 424 00:17:42,390 --> 00:17:40,559 um 425 00:17:45,029 --> 00:17:42,400 you know i think the vril and tudor 426 00:17:47,430 --> 00:17:45,039 society go back farther than you know 427 00:17:48,310 --> 00:17:47,440 the early 20th century i think they go 428 00:17:50,789 --> 00:17:48,320 back 429 00:17:52,310 --> 00:17:50,799 lords of the black stone they were all 430 00:17:54,549 --> 00:17:52,320 uh 431 00:17:56,870 --> 00:17:54,559 kind of in knights templar but also the 432 00:17:58,710 --> 00:17:56,880 teutonic knights 433 00:17:59,669 --> 00:17:58,720 that was their 434 00:18:01,590 --> 00:17:59,679 model 435 00:18:05,029 --> 00:18:01,600 and in the 19th century in prussia you 436 00:18:07,110 --> 00:18:05,039 know the germany wasn't a unified 437 00:18:09,750 --> 00:18:07,120 the prussian military the best in the 438 00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:09,760 world probably arguably 439 00:18:15,590 --> 00:18:11,600 the prussian aristocrats had tons of 440 00:18:17,590 --> 00:18:15,600 money in castles and land and um there 441 00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:17,600 were nationalists who wanted a unified 442 00:18:20,470 --> 00:18:18,720 germany 443 00:18:22,870 --> 00:18:20,480 and then there were the philosopher 444 00:18:25,110 --> 00:18:22,880 scientists who were into alchemy and 445 00:18:27,830 --> 00:18:25,120 using the philosopher's stone which is a 446 00:18:30,789 --> 00:18:27,840 person's higher consciousness in the 447 00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:30,799 alchemical mix whatever you want to do 448 00:18:35,750 --> 00:18:32,880 because that's a necessary ingredient 449 00:18:37,190 --> 00:18:35,760 they understood that very clearly 450 00:18:39,110 --> 00:18:37,200 now i think there were some people in 451 00:18:40,870 --> 00:18:39,120 america and england and france you know 452 00:18:43,350 --> 00:18:40,880 who also did 453 00:18:44,150 --> 00:18:43,360 but the germans impressions had a knack 454 00:18:45,990 --> 00:18:44,160 for 455 00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:46,000 apparently you know and this gets into 456 00:18:51,190 --> 00:18:48,400 the sonora aero club which was alchemy 457 00:18:53,669 --> 00:18:51,200 you know creating a red mercury serum 458 00:18:56,230 --> 00:18:53,679 to power the you know the airships of 459 00:18:58,549 --> 00:18:56,240 the 19th century and by all accounts 460 00:19:01,110 --> 00:18:58,559 they had reinvented 461 00:19:02,470 --> 00:19:01,120 uh anti-gravity propulsion in a very 462 00:19:03,350 --> 00:19:02,480 limited way 463 00:19:05,830 --> 00:19:03,360 um 464 00:19:07,909 --> 00:19:05,840 probably you know it's hard to say who 465 00:19:10,789 --> 00:19:07,919 knows who was flying around in india in 466 00:19:12,710 --> 00:19:10,799 a vamana 10 000 years ago but certainly 467 00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:12,720 within the last few thousand years they 468 00:19:16,230 --> 00:19:15,360 they resurrected this technology among 469 00:19:19,029 --> 00:19:16,240 others 470 00:19:20,710 --> 00:19:19,039 now that sounds wild but it does make 471 00:19:23,190 --> 00:19:20,720 sense when you connect all the dots with 472 00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:23,200 the 1897 airship mystery and then the 473 00:19:26,789 --> 00:19:24,640 bruise yeah there was a there was a 474 00:19:28,789 --> 00:19:26,799 heavy wave there was a huge wave of 475 00:19:29,510 --> 00:19:28,799 these airships right and then they then 476 00:19:31,350 --> 00:19:29,520 they 477 00:19:33,510 --> 00:19:31,360 you know after world war one you know 478 00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:33,520 there's a wild theory out there i i kind 479 00:19:37,990 --> 00:19:35,840 of wrote it in my book um 480 00:19:39,669 --> 00:19:38,000 this anonymous real-life internet every 481 00:19:42,549 --> 00:19:39,679 guy his name is ernst schaefer and he's 482 00:19:43,830 --> 00:19:42,559 describing to my team of characters he's 483 00:19:45,029 --> 00:19:43,840 like look 484 00:19:47,909 --> 00:19:45,039 you know hitler is really the 485 00:19:50,390 --> 00:19:47,919 illegitimate son of kaiser wilhelm 486 00:19:52,630 --> 00:19:50,400 i've heard that that is crazy theory he 487 00:19:54,390 --> 00:19:52,640 does not know it well it's not as crazy 488 00:19:56,470 --> 00:19:54,400 to think remember all these kings and 489 00:19:58,789 --> 00:19:56,480 queens they had illegitimate children at 490 00:20:00,630 --> 00:19:58,799 the yin yang as far back as we can 491 00:20:03,990 --> 00:20:00,640 remember so i guess they didn't have 492 00:20:06,310 --> 00:20:04,000 good condoms back then i don't know 493 00:20:07,590 --> 00:20:06,320 the thing and sometimes usually they 494 00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:07,600 ignore them 495 00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:09,600 but sometimes they would pay for their 496 00:20:12,470 --> 00:20:11,440 education and upbringing to make sure 497 00:20:14,149 --> 00:20:12,480 they didn't 498 00:20:16,470 --> 00:20:14,159 go by the wayside 499 00:20:18,390 --> 00:20:16,480 it's a remote possibility i'm going to 500 00:20:20,950 --> 00:20:18,400 capitalize those words 501 00:20:23,590 --> 00:20:20,960 that hitler was his illegitimate son 502 00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:23,600 because they i think the tula society 503 00:20:28,870 --> 00:20:26,880 followed hitler before and after the war 504 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:28,880 and he was a house painter and a failed 505 00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:30,480 artist and and 506 00:20:35,029 --> 00:20:33,200 and these other things but 507 00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:35,039 once he you know 508 00:20:39,270 --> 00:20:37,120 i think they knew he had a spark of 509 00:20:42,310 --> 00:20:39,280 brilliance now he was nuts 510 00:20:44,070 --> 00:20:42,320 and a psychopath but he was not stupid 511 00:20:45,270 --> 00:20:44,080 and he wasn't a coward he won the iron 512 00:20:46,230 --> 00:20:45,280 cross 513 00:20:47,590 --> 00:20:46,240 um 514 00:20:49,029 --> 00:20:47,600 yeah and then i think it's interesting 515 00:20:51,110 --> 00:20:49,039 what you said about him becoming a 516 00:20:53,110 --> 00:20:51,120 vegetarian because yeah somehow it's 517 00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:53,120 okay to kill millions of people but he 518 00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:55,840 was against animal cruelty because the 519 00:21:00,870 --> 00:20:58,159 brilliance where else is real yeah yeah 520 00:21:03,029 --> 00:21:00,880 the word is that crazy he and him are 521 00:21:05,350 --> 00:21:03,039 met with avrilia sometime in the 20s and 522 00:21:07,669 --> 00:21:05,360 30s but you know this is getting into 523 00:21:09,029 --> 00:21:07,679 wild at speculation but there is some 524 00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:09,039 premise for it 525 00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:10,880 and so a lot of people think they know a 526 00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:13,840 lot about hitler but they don't you have 527 00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:16,400 to read a hundred books and even then 528 00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:19,200 you've got to read between the lines 529 00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:21,520 he was very complex 530 00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:24,400 and so i think when the tula society 531 00:21:29,029 --> 00:21:26,080 picked him when he got up at the beer 532 00:21:31,350 --> 00:21:29,039 keller in vienna or munich 533 00:21:33,830 --> 00:21:31,360 um and did his speech 534 00:21:36,149 --> 00:21:33,840 boy householfer was there and and the a 535 00:21:37,350 --> 00:21:36,159 few crossing generals and i think garing 536 00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:37,360 was there 537 00:21:40,710 --> 00:21:38,720 and hess 538 00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:40,720 um 539 00:21:47,350 --> 00:21:42,240 where they saw the spark of brilliance 540 00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:49,430 he understood the occult to some degree 541 00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:52,000 he could walk the talk 542 00:21:55,510 --> 00:21:53,520 big time 543 00:21:57,430 --> 00:21:55,520 and so everyone's like oh you know it's 544 00:21:59,190 --> 00:21:57,440 just a happenstance fate there's none of 545 00:22:01,029 --> 00:21:59,200 that you know 546 00:22:02,630 --> 00:22:01,039 you know in in metaphysics you know 547 00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:02,640 everything is predetermined by some 548 00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:03,520 degree 549 00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:05,520 uh we're just sort of on a tram line 550 00:22:09,110 --> 00:22:07,440 living our lives and 551 00:22:10,870 --> 00:22:09,120 i've kind of you know i've embraced 552 00:22:13,350 --> 00:22:10,880 synchronicity because it's happened to 553 00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:13,360 my wife a lot 554 00:22:17,830 --> 00:22:15,360 and that gets into carl young and other 555 00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:17,840 metaphysical things but back to dear old 556 00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:18,960 adolf 557 00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:21,360 you know he um 558 00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:24,799 he does this beer keller putch in 1923 559 00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:26,960 and that's a failed attempt to take over 560 00:22:31,669 --> 00:22:29,440 right right yeah it wasn't as big of a 561 00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:31,679 deal as people think it was but 562 00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:34,240 anyway he goes to landsberg prison and 563 00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:36,240 all these people write to him 564 00:22:40,070 --> 00:22:38,080 and this is when the nazi party was very 565 00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:40,080 young and inexperienced and they had you 566 00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:40,799 know 567 00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:44,080 the fry core and the early ss and all 568 00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:45,840 these guys bully boys beating people up 569 00:22:51,909 --> 00:22:47,679 in the streets brown shirts yeah 570 00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:51,919 all that stuff going on but aristocrats 571 00:22:56,950 --> 00:22:54,720 wrote to him in landsberg prison 572 00:22:58,789 --> 00:22:56,960 and of course hess helped him write mein 573 00:23:01,510 --> 00:22:58,799 kampf 574 00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:01,520 which is barely barely readable but hess 575 00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:03,440 was very smart too he had grown up and 576 00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:05,760 he was he was way into the occult and i 577 00:23:08,710 --> 00:23:07,360 write about that in my new book lion 578 00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:08,720 tiger bear 579 00:23:13,909 --> 00:23:11,760 hess had grown up in alexandria egypt a 580 00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:13,919 lot of his life young life and he spent 581 00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:15,840 a lot of time with mystics and i wrote 582 00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:17,120 it that way 583 00:23:21,590 --> 00:23:18,320 and so 584 00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:21,600 he was probably mystic number one 585 00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:23,520 in the nazi party 586 00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:25,360 and um you know there were some shadow 587 00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:28,000 people behind that uh um i forget the 588 00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:30,799 general uh sue bettendorf and and uh 589 00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:32,799 householder they were all mystics too 590 00:23:34,950 --> 00:23:33,840 but hess 591 00:23:37,510 --> 00:23:34,960 who boy 592 00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:37,520 he knew he he was deeply steeped in the 593 00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:39,520 point and i think whatever he didn't 594 00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:41,600 know he figured out in landsberg prison 595 00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:43,279 because what else are you gonna do 596 00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:44,720 you know drink beer 597 00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:46,559 they they were able to drink beer and 598 00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:48,559 eat sausage all they wanted 599 00:23:51,909 --> 00:23:50,159 yeah i read that somewhere and i thought 600 00:23:54,390 --> 00:23:51,919 that was funny that then right really 601 00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:54,400 good food but because he did he did 602 00:23:59,190 --> 00:23:56,400 become something of a martyr or a 603 00:24:01,430 --> 00:23:59,200 figurehead for this for this german 604 00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:01,440 movement where they wanted some kind of 605 00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:04,400 really then right but a little the thing 606 00:24:07,990 --> 00:24:06,480 is it's all these aristocrats and if you 607 00:24:08,950 --> 00:24:08,000 think about the nazi party it's just a 608 00:24:11,430 --> 00:24:08,960 bunch of 609 00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:15,190 not so much they did have some brains 610 00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:17,279 they had a lot of brains actually 611 00:24:21,190 --> 00:24:19,679 and here's the the reason i i figured it 612 00:24:23,669 --> 00:24:21,200 out um 613 00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:23,679 i think jp farrell writes good stuff and 614 00:24:28,870 --> 00:24:26,159 there's peter levine does a good job too 615 00:24:31,029 --> 00:24:28,880 i love peter lavender and i i started 616 00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:31,039 with him with the necronomicon and i 617 00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:34,000 thought this is crazy you know it's an 618 00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:35,520 interesting connection that he sort of 619 00:24:40,390 --> 00:24:38,159 came up with that or was behind that and 620 00:24:41,669 --> 00:24:40,400 i didn't find that out until years later 621 00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:41,679 right so 622 00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:43,360 you know the mercedes motor company 623 00:24:47,669 --> 00:24:45,200 sends their top representative to pick 624 00:24:49,909 --> 00:24:47,679 him up with two brand new supercharged 625 00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:49,919 s-class touring cars there's a picture 626 00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:51,600 of hitler there he's very stern you know 627 00:24:54,870 --> 00:24:52,960 at the prison 628 00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:54,880 that's strange you know he wrote to this 629 00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:56,480 guy in prison said i require two 630 00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:58,320 mercedes with you know superchargers 631 00:25:02,390 --> 00:25:00,240 this gear we just gave him these really 632 00:25:05,350 --> 00:25:02,400 expensive super cars right hitler was a 633 00:25:07,029 --> 00:25:05,360 gear head that's what he he loved uh 634 00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:07,039 everything mechanical people don't know 635 00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:08,880 that he ride around those cars the big 636 00:25:12,870 --> 00:25:11,120 mercedes you know with the salute 637 00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:12,880 he knew all about how they ran because 638 00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:15,200 ferdinand porsche designed them 639 00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:17,120 and he was an admirer for dan portion 640 00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:19,520 this is my first book lion ty i mean uh 641 00:25:23,269 --> 00:25:21,279 little anton 642 00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:23,279 and so when he gets out of prison and 643 00:25:27,590 --> 00:25:25,200 they go traveling around they go to 644 00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:27,600 these fancy homes you know as well as 645 00:25:32,710 --> 00:25:30,240 doing speeches and aristocratic ladies 646 00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:32,720 would take their diamond necklaces off 647 00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:35,520 and put them around hitler's neck 648 00:25:40,149 --> 00:25:37,200 and his underwear 649 00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:40,159 they transferred wealth 650 00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:42,159 you know sort of on the download so they 651 00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:44,240 were funding some of his efforts right 652 00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:45,840 but some of these aristocrats were kind 653 00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:47,600 of like you know 654 00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:49,360 the five percent of these you know elite 655 00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:51,600 families who you know know a thing or 656 00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:54,480 two about the occult and metaphysics 657 00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:56,880 and uh human history and you know the 658 00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:58,159 mystery school 659 00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:59,840 you know we're not alone in the universe 660 00:26:03,269 --> 00:26:01,440 and we're not the top predators on 661 00:26:06,149 --> 00:26:03,279 planet earth you know they knew all this 662 00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:06,159 stuff and they supported hitler 663 00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:08,159 because they 664 00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:10,000 had a good idea i think that he was able 665 00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:12,960 to pull this off and get you know et 666 00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:15,840 advisors and other people who were of a 667 00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:17,520 regressive nature 668 00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:18,960 vibration 669 00:26:21,909 --> 00:26:21,120 and yeah we'll create this wonderful you 670 00:26:23,830 --> 00:26:21,919 know 671 00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:23,840 conquer the world and make it fascist 672 00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:26,080 you know no more you know 673 00:26:28,870 --> 00:26:27,840 goody two-shoes people around you know 674 00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:28,880 no more 675 00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:29,760 yeah 676 00:26:34,390 --> 00:26:32,720 american you know pseudo democracy well 677 00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:34,400 it's funny because fascism kind of works 678 00:26:39,190 --> 00:26:36,240 for people who agree with the fascist in 679 00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:39,200 charge right more complicated has to do 680 00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:41,440 a lot with corporations if you look up 681 00:26:45,029 --> 00:26:42,880 the 682 00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:45,039 what fascism really means 683 00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:47,840 it's totalitarianism but it also is a 684 00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:50,400 very structured corporate entity 685 00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:53,200 uh that's a component of it it's very 686 00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:54,640 sounds like the united states right 687 00:27:01,750 --> 00:26:58,710 yeah 688 00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:01,760 you know they own everyone they own ever 689 00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:04,000 just run the world man you know and they 690 00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:04,799 did 691 00:27:10,549 --> 00:27:07,520 all these committee 300 families i mean 692 00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:10,559 my family the melons uh melon bank 693 00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:13,600 uh standard oil you know u.s steel in 694 00:27:18,070 --> 00:27:16,480 pennsylvania uh you know u.s coal 695 00:27:19,909 --> 00:27:18,080 yeah i'm in pennsylvania i know u.s 696 00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:19,919 steel very well all these i know people 697 00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:22,559 have family that work there 698 00:27:25,909 --> 00:27:25,039 you know i i invest in exxon 699 00:27:27,990 --> 00:27:25,919 [\h__\h] 700 00:27:29,909 --> 00:27:28,000 you know a lot of people do so i love 701 00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:29,919 that i saw you on some podcast and you 702 00:27:33,350 --> 00:27:31,600 were you were telling people go down the 703 00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:33,360 middle and bank and open an account or 704 00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:39,590 cheerleading 705 00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:41,039 you have to say everything literally 706 00:27:45,669 --> 00:27:43,360 people like i knew he was an [\h__\h] he 707 00:27:48,070 --> 00:27:45,679 said it 708 00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:48,080 i do not get any kickbacks or anything 709 00:27:50,789 --> 00:27:48,960 um 710 00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:50,799 trust me but 711 00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:52,080 you know um 712 00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:54,799 it does work to a degree 713 00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:56,080 but 714 00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:58,000 you know america is a it's kind of a 715 00:28:01,350 --> 00:28:00,240 corrupt constitutional republic and even 716 00:28:02,789 --> 00:28:01,360 my dad 717 00:28:04,710 --> 00:28:02,799 agreed with me you know he said all 718 00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:04,720 senators and congressmen 719 00:28:08,789 --> 00:28:06,799 and you know they're all bought paid for 720 00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:08,799 by special interests you know 721 00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:10,960 and he has alien marines behind him so 722 00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:12,159 he didn't have to deal with a lot of 723 00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:14,480 that [\h__\h] but the navy and marines 724 00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:16,320 you know military industrial complex 725 00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:18,480 they used to call him some journalist 726 00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:21,600 called somebody's making all the weapons 727 00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:23,120 yeah somebody's making all those weapons 728 00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:24,799 for those guys somebody's got to build 729 00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:26,480 the ships and make the guns and the 730 00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:28,399 missiles yeah i mean you know i'm i'm 731 00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:31,520 i'm behind a strong military but 732 00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:34,159 holy [\h__\h] if if the secret space program 733 00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:36,559 is as big as it is as it's reported to 734 00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:37,679 be 735 00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:38,640 uh 736 00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:40,240 you know 737 00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:41,120 one 738 00:28:46,230 --> 00:28:43,600 person i think catherine austin fitz uh 739 00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:46,240 predicted that the real gdp of america 740 00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:49,520 is probably like 25 trillion in a year 741 00:28:53,590 --> 00:28:51,760 and so what do we get 1.5 trillion for 742 00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:53,600 the public budget 743 00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:55,600 and the rest of the world 744 00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:56,480 yeah 745 00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:57,279 so 746 00:29:01,350 --> 00:28:59,840 you know our road schools and bridges 747 00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:01,360 are falling apart 748 00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:03,360 but we have a military that can whip 749 00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:05,919 every single nation together combined 750 00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:08,320 ten times over 751 00:29:12,389 --> 00:29:10,480 uh you know a general said that in a 752 00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:12,399 press briefing you know it it's 753 00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:14,640 ridiculous it's like why it's because 754 00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:16,320 yeah and you know it's fair it's in 755 00:29:21,669 --> 00:29:19,120 spain fighting probably some 756 00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:21,679 some presidents try to like bear down 757 00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:24,080 and you know pair pair the military down 758 00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:26,159 but then but then you get then you get 759 00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:28,080 somebody like trump that comes in and he 760 00:29:32,950 --> 00:29:30,320 he builds everything right back up 761 00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:32,960 even to more level than it was before it 762 00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:35,279 was deflated you know so now we're at 763 00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:40,950 they're only middle managers they're 764 00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:44,240 transient custodians of the status quo 765 00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:46,080 and everyone was like oh trump is on 766 00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:48,480 board with getting rid of the satanic 767 00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:51,200 people and epstein and and uh q anon and 768 00:29:54,149 --> 00:29:52,799 all this religious stuff you know god 769 00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:54,159 wins or we don't just so you know we 770 00:29:57,830 --> 00:29:56,080 don't say that here we don't we don't 771 00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:57,840 say that letter of the alphabet here 772 00:30:01,909 --> 00:30:00,720 youtube yeah i don't like it 773 00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:01,919 politician 774 00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:04,320 is distilled judgment and i don't trust 775 00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:06,399 any presidents or politicians 776 00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:08,640 you know i think trump was probably 777 00:30:13,029 --> 00:30:10,880 maybe a little bit more altruistic than 778 00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:13,039 you know the biden administration but 779 00:30:16,630 --> 00:30:14,640 that doesn't mean they're not part of 780 00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:16,640 the deep state either 781 00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:19,200 um were they doing all these good deeds 782 00:30:22,389 --> 00:30:20,960 you know i don't know 783 00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:22,399 i certainly don't 784 00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:23,440 trust 785 00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:24,880 you know people coming out and saying 786 00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:26,320 well you know 787 00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:28,000 the secrets you know trump's secret 788 00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:30,080 space force and and you know black ops 789 00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:32,159 troops are liberating deep underground 790 00:30:36,070 --> 00:30:34,240 military bases yeah there's a lot of 791 00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:36,080 nutty stuff going around i just i don't 792 00:30:41,110 --> 00:30:38,720 know if you heard this but from simon 793 00:30:43,110 --> 00:30:41,120 i don't simon park says tomorrow biden's 794 00:30:45,350 --> 00:30:43,120 stepping down and this is like one of 795 00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:45,360 the latest nonsense 796 00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:46,960 [\h__\h] you know 797 00:30:50,789 --> 00:30:48,720 you know i like i say i don't have a lot 798 00:30:51,990 --> 00:30:50,799 of concrete answers for people but but i 799 00:30:54,070 --> 00:30:52,000 don't i 800 00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:54,080 i consider 801 00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:56,399 everyone's information because it's just 802 00:31:00,389 --> 00:30:58,480 information i consider that any good 803 00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:00,399 researcher historian or writer is going 804 00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:02,640 to do that and so 805 00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:04,320 you know there's things that i don't 806 00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:06,240 cotton to i mean i know we live in a 807 00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:08,960 universe where everything is possible 808 00:31:12,789 --> 00:31:10,480 sure actually i wanted to get your i 809 00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:12,799 wanted to get your blankly yeah i wanted 810 00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:14,399 to get your comment on this because i'm 811 00:31:18,389 --> 00:31:16,320 not sure that it's accurate but you know 812 00:31:21,269 --> 00:31:18,399 sometimes because you're into the wild 813 00:31:23,350 --> 00:31:21,279 side of conspiracy land and i will say 814 00:31:25,909 --> 00:31:23,360 in john's defenses he listens to 815 00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:25,919 everybody you're very like i was 816 00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:28,720 surprised i saw you on a podcast with 817 00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:31,360 somebody that in one hour i can't 818 00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:33,200 remember her name it's gonna escape me 819 00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:35,360 i'll i'll try to get it she she was 820 00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:38,640 talking about past lives and yeah 821 00:31:43,509 --> 00:31:41,600 meredith regina meredith yeah and i went 822 00:31:45,430 --> 00:31:43,519 john is so nice he's just sitting there 823 00:31:47,509 --> 00:31:45,440 listening to this but this is the latest 824 00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:47,519 from simon parks he says 825 00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:49,600 uh the information i can share with you 826 00:31:53,269 --> 00:31:51,600 but i can't say it's 100 going to happen 827 00:31:54,789 --> 00:31:53,279 i can only tell what we've been told is 828 00:31:58,950 --> 00:31:54,799 that president biden will be forced to 829 00:32:00,950 --> 00:31:58,960 stand down around the 15th of december 830 00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:00,960 kamala harris basically took over from 831 00:32:04,789 --> 00:32:02,880 biden the plan was to get this view it's 832 00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:04,799 like this whole fantasy world that these 833 00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:06,159 people live in 834 00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:08,159 right here can you comment on some of 835 00:32:11,669 --> 00:32:10,559 that stuff because you're getting a band 836 00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:11,679 i just want you to know whether you know 837 00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:13,840 it or not that you get a bad rap because 838 00:32:17,110 --> 00:32:15,760 some people just because you'll listen 839 00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:17,120 to somebody 840 00:32:20,950 --> 00:32:18,880 john they say that you support what 841 00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:20,960 they're selling yeah i don't think 842 00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:23,120 that's accurate right well it's just 843 00:32:26,389 --> 00:32:24,240 that's very 844 00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:26,399 shallow thinking you know it's just you 845 00:32:29,669 --> 00:32:27,760 know they taint everyone it's like 846 00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:29,679 twitter you know they just you know i i 847 00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:31,679 was criticizing elon musk and tesla 848 00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:33,440 tesla is a military contractor 849 00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:35,440 corporation they're like no it's not 850 00:32:39,669 --> 00:32:37,200 tell me one thing that you know and it's 851 00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:39,679 like my god do you do any homework at 852 00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:40,720 all 853 00:32:47,669 --> 00:32:42,000 yeah i saw what you did on their 854 00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:49,350 the military industrial compact is the 855 00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:51,440 biggest spender in america 856 00:32:55,909 --> 00:32:52,960 you don't become that rich you don't 857 00:32:57,830 --> 00:32:55,919 become an approved billionaire unless 858 00:33:00,230 --> 00:32:57,840 you inherit it you know 859 00:33:02,149 --> 00:33:00,240 without the military industrial complex 860 00:33:04,230 --> 00:33:02,159 or the you know the intel 861 00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:04,240 corporate you know complex 862 00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:06,320 pulling your strings i'm sorry that's 863 00:33:10,870 --> 00:33:08,320 just yeah i love this this is 864 00:33:13,029 --> 00:33:10,880 my 20s tesla is nothing more than a 865 00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:13,039 thinly disguised military contractor 866 00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:16,320 elon musk is a deep state lac bar none 867 00:33:21,190 --> 00:33:18,399 this is tesla cyber truck gets turned 868 00:33:24,310 --> 00:33:21,200 into a military vehicle 869 00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:24,320 yeah i got i got attacked viciously and 870 00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:26,320 you know i don't care but 871 00:33:30,549 --> 00:33:28,640 you know it's it's just so obvious and 872 00:33:32,549 --> 00:33:30,559 people have this cognitive dissonance 873 00:33:34,389 --> 00:33:32,559 and it's like i'm like you're defending 874 00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:34,399 a trillionaire that doesn't give a [\h__\h] 875 00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:36,880 about any of you 876 00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:39,120 it's just it's madness and so i know i 877 00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:41,679 know the whole twitter escape is full of 878 00:33:46,389 --> 00:33:44,799 trolls and and cia paid performance i 879 00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:46,399 think you have a lot of fun with them 880 00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:48,720 though you have fun i mean i don't enjoy 881 00:33:53,110 --> 00:33:50,720 that bar back and forth 882 00:33:55,269 --> 00:33:53,120 these are my opinions you know i've i've 883 00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:55,279 had an interesting life i've got a lot 884 00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:56,880 of background that supports that i know 885 00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:58,559 a lot of military people they're like 886 00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:00,480 hell yeah tesla's you know they tell me 887 00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:02,640 stuff it's not secret 888 00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:04,720 it just takes some digging 889 00:34:08,470 --> 00:34:06,480 and digging and digging you know it's 890 00:34:11,430 --> 00:34:08,480 not all there in the front page of the 891 00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:11,440 new york times for every idiot to read 892 00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:14,720 you know tesla but tesla is duplicitous 893 00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:16,480 it's not like lockheed who says of 894 00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:18,240 course we make ufos you know they 895 00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:20,399 basically said that ben rich 896 00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:22,800 yeah ours and theirs there's ours just 897 00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:24,560 like oh we're this technology company 898 00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:26,159 we're gonna save the world with you know 899 00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:28,399 electric cars you know which are were 900 00:34:33,109 --> 00:34:30,720 out 120 years ago 901 00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:33,119 ferdinand porsche invented the hybrid 902 00:34:37,349 --> 00:34:34,480 electric car 903 00:34:39,669 --> 00:34:37,359 in 1903 this is ridiculous this is old 904 00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:39,679 technology and everyone's like oh no 905 00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:42,560 he's a he's a visionary man and i'm like 906 00:34:45,109 --> 00:34:44,079 visionary 907 00:34:49,349 --> 00:34:45,119 you know 908 00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:49,359 car but it's a technology company not a 909 00:34:53,349 --> 00:34:51,520 car company what else are they doing 910 00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:53,359 what's all that that 911 00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:56,240 big place out in bluffdale utah 912 00:34:59,190 --> 00:34:57,520 and i've heard some strange stories 913 00:35:00,870 --> 00:34:59,200 about that place i mean come on this is 914 00:35:02,950 --> 00:35:00,880 obvious stuff 915 00:35:04,790 --> 00:35:02,960 and so you know i don't care but back to 916 00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:04,800 your point you know cyan parks is very 917 00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:06,960 interesting i've followed him and i've 918 00:35:10,470 --> 00:35:08,880 listened to what he has to say some of 919 00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:10,480 the things are interesting 920 00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:11,920 but when they get into the like 921 00:35:17,190 --> 00:35:15,040 prophecies and predictions and what's 922 00:35:18,390 --> 00:35:17,200 happening behind the scenes it's like 923 00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:18,400 well 924 00:35:21,190 --> 00:35:19,760 how the hell are we supposed to know 925 00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:21,200 what's happening behind the scenes 926 00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:23,200 because you're telling us i mean or how 927 00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:24,960 you know what i always 928 00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:26,640 what i always thought was it was crazy 929 00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:29,200 like you know he he acts like he's got a 930 00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:30,720 personal line to trump and all this 931 00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:32,480 stuff and i'm like why would trump just 932 00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:34,640 pick a driving instructor from england 933 00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:36,880 to tell all the secrets to it well he's 934 00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:38,640 more he's more than that i mean he's 935 00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:40,800 very intelligent uh you can't i'll give 936 00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:42,400 him that he's an intelligent guy but 937 00:35:46,069 --> 00:35:44,320 he's also running med bed scams right 938 00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:46,079 now well his mother 939 00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:48,240 was mi5 940 00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:50,640 and no his mother used to be an alien 941 00:35:54,390 --> 00:35:52,480 but then when he got into the letter of 942 00:35:56,230 --> 00:35:54,400 the alphabet all of a sudden his mother 943 00:35:57,990 --> 00:35:56,240 worked for mi5 and i don't know that 944 00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:58,000 that's accurate i i've never i don't 945 00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:59,839 know if i haven't checked on that but i 946 00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:00,560 i 947 00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:21,119 know q anon central you know and 948 00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:23,359 but we're not told about any of it they 949 00:36:26,349 --> 00:36:25,359 just they pumped out all this religious 950 00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:26,359 stuff you know 951 00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:30,320 107 is jfk junior i mean that's crazy 952 00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:32,800 you know i i my sister knew jfk junior 953 00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:35,440 is a nice guy i hope he's alive 954 00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:38,480 but this is very strange stuff to be 955 00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:40,960 putting all your eggs in baskets that 956 00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:44,320 are just bizarre even by our standards 957 00:36:49,430 --> 00:36:46,240 you know stephen steve and john you know 958 00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:49,440 we're we're in the sub basement you know 959 00:36:53,030 --> 00:36:51,200 yeah we're in the ghetto of conspiracy 960 00:36:55,349 --> 00:36:53,040 land trying to figure it out i guess 961 00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:55,359 yeah but you know i have a problem with 962 00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:57,200 i have a problem with when they get to 963 00:37:00,550 --> 00:36:58,079 be 964 00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:00,560 sort of cult figures we covered simon 965 00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:02,720 parks and and you know problems that he 966 00:37:06,790 --> 00:37:05,200 has with women and all this other weird 967 00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:06,800 cult-like behavior and they always 968 00:37:11,589 --> 00:37:09,280 promise people med beds and collecting 969 00:37:13,829 --> 00:37:11,599 money for stuff that doesn't exist and 970 00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:13,839 him and i don't follow any of that stuff 971 00:37:17,349 --> 00:37:15,119 anymore because i just think it's all 972 00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:17,359 nonsense it's like opium for people that 973 00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:19,920 were pissed off that that biting one 974 00:37:23,270 --> 00:37:22,000 that's all it is yeah it's all designed 975 00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:23,280 for people that were pissed off that 976 00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:24,960 bite in one you know 977 00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:26,400 let's not talk about politics because 978 00:37:29,829 --> 00:37:28,320 that's just nonsense 979 00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:29,839 yeah we'll agree on that even though 980 00:37:34,069 --> 00:37:31,599 you're dead your dad was a good 981 00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:34,079 politician wasn't he he's a fascinating 982 00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:36,160 guy people throw their votes away they 983 00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:39,119 don't mean anything um in my opinion 984 00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:40,480 from what i know 985 00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:42,240 um 986 00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:44,400 important senate races they're fixed 987 00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:47,520 from the beginning so my dad you know 988 00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:49,440 he was a navy secretary of the navy he 989 00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:51,040 was on board with a conservative 990 00:37:56,069 --> 00:37:53,440 republican you know military party i 991 00:37:57,750 --> 00:37:56,079 mean he was a shoo-in in my view 992 00:37:59,270 --> 00:37:57,760 and so 993 00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:59,280 certain senate races aren't that 994 00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:01,200 important but the important ones that 995 00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:04,320 have to do with military stuff 996 00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:05,520 those are 997 00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:07,599 done behind the scenes just like all 998 00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:09,760 presidential elections yeah they sort of 999 00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:12,000 anoint someone right they just anoint 1000 00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:13,520 someone that they know he's gonna do 1001 00:38:16,950 --> 00:38:15,440 what they want right and they're all 1002 00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:16,960 sort of 1003 00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:18,800 kindness order on the same team that's 1004 00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:21,359 why everyone's like oh you know mr trump 1005 00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:23,200 and and you know 1006 00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:25,520 those guys are gonna disclose and be our 1007 00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:28,240 heroes and it's like um 1008 00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:31,119 i don't think so because 1009 00:38:36,069 --> 00:38:33,839 they may be a little better 1010 00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:36,079 more positive but they're still deep 1011 00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:38,320 state they still are not showing the 1012 00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:40,079 american people anything 1013 00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:41,440 you know everyone says we have these 1014 00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:44,880 military trials and everything 1015 00:38:50,069 --> 00:38:47,280 i've heard nothing about it i know what 1016 00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:50,079 happened some of them are happening but 1017 00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:51,839 i'll tell you this let me backtrack 1018 00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:53,760 because when people talk about this 1019 00:38:57,829 --> 00:38:55,599 medbec technology 1020 00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:57,839 let me just share what i know 1021 00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:00,400 for whatever it's worth okay yeah listen 1022 00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:03,280 i have an open mind but yeah we just so 1023 00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:06,000 you know we have covered at least two 1024 00:39:08,950 --> 00:39:07,839 i'm sorry three different 1025 00:39:10,630 --> 00:39:08,960 people 1026 00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:10,640 characters in conspiracy land that are 1027 00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:12,960 running scams right now and i can call 1028 00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:14,480 them that confidently because we have 1029 00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:16,160 done our due diligence 1030 00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:19,200 one one girl is a psychic healer who is 1031 00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:20,960 selling people med bed sessions where 1032 00:39:24,550 --> 00:39:22,480 she says she's going to take you up 1033 00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:24,560 through a stargate to a spaceship and 1034 00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:26,480 all this other stuff but then the fine 1035 00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:28,960 print at the end of the ad she says this 1036 00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:30,800 is a skype call 1037 00:39:34,870 --> 00:39:32,560 you know what i mean yeah so like and 1038 00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:34,880 that's 250 bucks and 1039 00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:36,640 i've talked to people who bought that 1040 00:39:41,190 --> 00:39:39,040 because they're terminally ill or they 1041 00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:41,200 have some strange illness that 1042 00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:44,560 can help them with so i i'm open to the 1043 00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:46,960 idea of medical technology that i don't 1044 00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:49,280 know about or whatever but i'm very 1045 00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:50,640 cautious because i've seen the 1046 00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:53,040 detrimental side of the scammers taking 1047 00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:54,560 advantage of people 1048 00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:56,560 i mean but yeah tell us tell us what you 1049 00:40:00,150 --> 00:39:58,400 know about the reality of these things 1050 00:40:02,950 --> 00:40:00,160 or what i believe the reality is the 1051 00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:02,960 disclosure movement is rife with 1052 00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:04,079 you know 1053 00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:07,920 and all these things that that may or 1054 00:40:11,829 --> 00:40:10,000 may not have an effect given your 1055 00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:11,839 vibration you know which is you know 1056 00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:14,560 yeah oregon pyramids and yeah they might 1057 00:40:17,349 --> 00:40:15,520 work 1058 00:40:19,109 --> 00:40:17,359 you know for certain people but you know 1059 00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:19,119 i don't know but 1060 00:40:23,270 --> 00:40:20,800 you know not that i'm i know anything 1061 00:40:25,109 --> 00:40:23,280 for sure but i did talk to chris mellon 1062 00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:25,119 uh in our conversation about the med 1063 00:40:29,829 --> 00:40:27,440 back technology which i have heard from 1064 00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:29,839 some military people that i trust is 1065 00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:30,960 real 1066 00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:33,040 but it is highly classified and it's for 1067 00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:35,760 black ops teams only 1068 00:40:40,069 --> 00:40:37,680 oh that's interesting we're going to get 1069 00:40:41,829 --> 00:40:40,079 the public version will be you know 1070 00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:41,839 version one 1071 00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:44,240 whereas in the in the black programs 1072 00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:46,800 it's version 1000 1073 00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:48,880 and it works off light color sound and 1074 00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:50,640 frequency because 1075 00:40:55,030 --> 00:40:52,880 the theory is in a holographic universe 1076 00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:55,040 we're made of atoms which have photons 1077 00:40:58,309 --> 00:40:57,119 which are units of light and you can you 1078 00:41:00,390 --> 00:40:58,319 know 1079 00:41:01,349 --> 00:41:00,400 you can manipulate that in order to let 1080 00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:01,359 the body 1081 00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:02,640 heal itself 1082 00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:04,960 and so i think that's a real technology 1083 00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:06,640 um 1084 00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:08,640 and we discussed it and he did agree 1085 00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:10,560 that that you know that should be made 1086 00:41:14,309 --> 00:41:11,760 public 1087 00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:14,319 the problem is it's gonna cure cancer 1088 00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:17,440 overnight and cure everything 1089 00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:21,359 and you know cancer is what 700 billion 1090 00:41:25,109 --> 00:41:23,440 dollar a year trillion yeah i've heard 1091 00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:25,119 that conspiracy a lot they don't want to 1092 00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:27,280 cure they want treatment no if you look 1093 00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:29,359 at cancer my 1094 00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:31,440 you know over the years my father 1095 00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:33,280 followed cancer because his father died 1096 00:41:37,030 --> 00:41:34,800 in his arms with cancer when he was 1097 00:41:39,589 --> 00:41:37,040 about 47. your dad did pretty good he 1098 00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:39,599 lived to 94 right he had cancer but yeah 1099 00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:41,520 and my my uh condolences i know he 1100 00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:43,440 passed away in may of last year yeah i 1101 00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:45,440 think he was a great guy i mean he loved 1102 00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:46,880 his country and everything he knew his 1103 00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:49,040 portion of the ufo file and he was 1104 00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:50,240 interested yeah we're going to get into 1105 00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:52,800 that because i i love the stories about 1106 00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:55,520 about you asking him and him sort of 1107 00:41:59,829 --> 00:41:58,079 like forget about that forget about that 1108 00:42:01,990 --> 00:41:59,839 right didn't he do that to you 1109 00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:02,000 but you asked him directly about the ufo 1110 00:42:08,710 --> 00:42:03,119 in the beginning 1111 00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:08,720 that's my med bed tidbit i i hope it's 1112 00:42:12,710 --> 00:42:10,160 it's a real well you know what there's 1113 00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:12,720 always don't let it out 1114 00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:15,040 slowly yeah there's always some nugget 1115 00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:17,040 of truth in some of these conspiracies 1116 00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:18,720 so i have thought maybe something like 1117 00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:20,800 that exists i don't think so conspiracy 1118 00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:22,720 i think that's real technology we we use 1119 00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:25,760 et back engineered technology every day 1120 00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:28,240 our laptops ballistic glass our 1121 00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:30,720 smartphones are very powerful 1122 00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:36,309 technology a laptop and a smartphone 1123 00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:38,720 that's the word we use this stuff we've 1124 00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:40,800 been using it for 70 years 1125 00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:42,319 transparent unless the uh sort of 1126 00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:44,640 government's figured that out guess who 1127 00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:46,079 i think 1128 00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:48,960 the terms are very clever but come on 1129 00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:50,319 free energy 1130 00:42:55,510 --> 00:42:53,280 transistors chemical lasers um 1131 00:42:57,030 --> 00:42:55,520 you know all kinds of things 1132 00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:57,040 not that we aren't clever we're very 1133 00:43:01,430 --> 00:43:00,079 clever engineers a lot of people say you 1134 00:43:03,670 --> 00:43:01,440 know out there 1135 00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:03,680 we have a very good reputation we take 1136 00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:06,240 junk from a junkyard or that's given to 1137 00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:07,520 us in trade 1138 00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:10,000 and we make like hot rods we make stuff 1139 00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:11,760 really work 1140 00:43:16,710 --> 00:43:13,280 and so 1141 00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:16,720 you know it all i my thing is what makes 1142 00:43:19,670 --> 00:43:18,720 sense in a logical 1143 00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:19,680 even though everything's sort of 1144 00:43:25,829 --> 00:43:22,720 illogical and anarchy but what really 1145 00:43:27,670 --> 00:43:25,839 makes sense and so even i i subscribe to 1146 00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:27,680 some wild theories because in the 1147 00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:30,400 greater big picture it makes sense 1148 00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:33,119 so med back technology all these back 1149 00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:35,520 engineered technologies uh you know the 1150 00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:37,920 microchips and everything in our cars 1151 00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:39,680 teslas you know that's all back 1152 00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:42,480 engineered come from back engineered 1153 00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:45,119 programs you know they splice off and 1154 00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:48,000 one technology leads to a dozen others 1155 00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:50,400 you know but at all the roots come back 1156 00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:51,440 to 1157 00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:53,440 not all but a lot of it is back 1158 00:43:58,309 --> 00:43:55,760 engineered et stuff because there were 1159 00:44:00,150 --> 00:43:58,319 thousands and thousands of crashes of et 1160 00:44:01,750 --> 00:44:00,160 craft starting you think they were you 1161 00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:01,760 think there were thousands of them 1162 00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:03,359 really i i believe that there may have 1163 00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:04,880 been but they're pretty rare i don't 1164 00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:06,400 know 1165 00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:08,000 a thousand do you really believe that 1166 00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:08,800 well 1167 00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:10,560 thousands of them what makes sense what 1168 00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:12,560 makes sense about that now et's coming 1169 00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:14,240 into our atmosphere from a higher 1170 00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:16,800 dimension going super luminal don't you 1171 00:44:19,589 --> 00:44:18,160 think they would be smart enough to 1172 00:44:21,670 --> 00:44:19,599 throw the switch 1173 00:44:23,589 --> 00:44:21,680 that once they entered our 3d reality 1174 00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:23,599 which is very dense like chocolate 1175 00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:24,800 pudding 1176 00:44:28,150 --> 00:44:26,560 and they smack into that but they forgot 1177 00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:28,160 to throw the switch 1178 00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:30,160 yeah i've heard this argument about like 1179 00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:31,760 why would they how could they come all 1180 00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:33,680 this way and then have problems but the 1181 00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:36,480 truth is that any machine can fail 1182 00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:38,720 machine engineer way anybody can fail 1183 00:44:43,030 --> 00:44:41,200 pilot error i mean pilot error yeah the 1184 00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:43,040 smartest people in the world 1185 00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:45,599 can barely tie their shoes so 1186 00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:47,200 you know it's 1187 00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:49,520 that's number one but number two some of 1188 00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:51,760 them are on purpose 1189 00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:53,680 number three some of them are shot down 1190 00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:55,760 you know and the word is the klystron 1191 00:45:00,630 --> 00:44:57,839 brothers uh 1192 00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:00,640 this the uh valerian [\h__\h] i got this 1193 00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:03,200 wrong sigrude um 1194 00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:06,079 anyway the klytron tube radar was scalar 1195 00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:08,400 and apparently that can be used to 1196 00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:10,560 disable the navigation systems in a 1197 00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:12,960 craft and they spin in 1198 00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:14,800 i had heard that before yeah this is 1199 00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:16,800 what directed energy weapons are they're 1200 00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:20,160 scalar you know which is scalar waves 1201 00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:23,119 and so um that makes sense to me the 1202 00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:26,000 other thing is um 1203 00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:27,599 you know we 1204 00:45:32,069 --> 00:45:29,440 i think we do have a trade that's been 1205 00:45:34,150 --> 00:45:32,079 going on for 70 years you know hey you 1206 00:45:36,630 --> 00:45:34,160 know what do you want you know sometimes 1207 00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:36,640 it's chocolate heroin and spices 1208 00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:38,319 what else 1209 00:45:44,710 --> 00:45:43,040 black market in iraq and some small town 1210 00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:44,720 the answer is anything you [\h__\h] want 1211 00:45:50,390 --> 00:45:47,760 illegal weapons human trafficking spices 1212 00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:50,400 flowers you know chocolate 1213 00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:52,560 anything coffee for sure 1214 00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:54,720 um and 1215 00:45:59,190 --> 00:45:57,200 you know but genetics are supposedly and 1216 00:46:00,550 --> 00:45:59,200 more people than just corey good gooden 1217 00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:00,560 everyone says that there's a lot of 1218 00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:02,960 people who say that's the big barter 1219 00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:05,920 chip out there is genetics because a lot 1220 00:46:10,309 --> 00:46:07,920 of races of ets out there are on a very 1221 00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:10,319 dry hot planet and they're not doing so 1222 00:46:15,190 --> 00:46:12,160 well they're living underground and if 1223 00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:15,200 they can get some of our 12-strand dna 1224 00:46:19,589 --> 00:46:17,520 it'll help them survive now that makes 1225 00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:19,599 sense 1226 00:46:25,349 --> 00:46:23,040 you could get some genetic material from 1227 00:46:26,550 --> 00:46:25,359 a better from a better from from a 1228 00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:26,560 species that could happen they're not 1229 00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:28,800 just baking us in a microwave and having 1230 00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:30,720 us for dinner although that probably 1231 00:46:33,670 --> 00:46:32,000 happens 1232 00:46:36,790 --> 00:46:33,680 and thanks 1233 00:46:37,750 --> 00:46:36,800 kindness and generosity yeah i mean 1234 00:46:38,630 --> 00:46:37,760 you know 1235 00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:38,640 um 1236 00:46:42,069 --> 00:46:40,240 i want to get back for a second to the 1237 00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:42,079 nazi technology because i know you know 1238 00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:44,319 a lot about this stuff and i've always 1239 00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:46,720 been on the fence and here's why i used 1240 00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:49,760 to totally believe in all the nazi ufos 1241 00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:51,920 and all the programs but then i failed 1242 00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:53,839 out from talks with walter bosley and 1243 00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:56,000 having him as a guest a few times that a 1244 00:47:01,670 --> 00:46:57,920 lot of these stories of nazi flying 1245 00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:01,680 saucers came from european tabloids 1246 00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:03,760 that were sort of pro 1247 00:47:09,510 --> 00:47:06,079 nazi and they wanted to have 1248 00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:09,520 uh sort of a resurgence of nazi 1249 00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:12,480 ideals or you know like a fourth reich 1250 00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:15,040 and so these stories about 1251 00:47:19,349 --> 00:47:17,280 nazi flying saucers got floated by a lot 1252 00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:19,359 of tabloid newspapers 1253 00:47:23,829 --> 00:47:21,520 and for some of the stuff like honeyboo 1254 00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:23,839 there's little to no evidence but for 1255 00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:25,599 other stuff there's a great deal of 1256 00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:28,160 evidence can you talk for a little while 1257 00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:29,280 about 1258 00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:32,160 the nazi scientists the bell the nazi 1259 00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:34,960 flying saucers their exotic weapons and 1260 00:47:38,790 --> 00:47:36,640 project paperclip and what happened to 1261 00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:38,800 all those brilliant scientists 1262 00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:41,359 yeah um i like thank you 1263 00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:43,200 i like bosley's books the empire of the 1264 00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:45,920 wheels series and i put a lot of that in 1265 00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:47,920 my new book lion tiger bear yeah the 1266 00:47:52,230 --> 00:47:50,640 airship history is in there my my guys 1267 00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:52,240 are you know this is where anti-gravity 1268 00:47:55,829 --> 00:47:53,440 came from 1269 00:47:57,750 --> 00:47:55,839 in the modern era and the ancients had 1270 00:47:59,829 --> 00:47:57,760 it but you know in the modern era the 1271 00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:59,839 last two thousand years probably 1272 00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:00,960 um 1273 00:48:04,790 --> 00:48:02,800 but i have to kind of disagree with 1274 00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:04,800 bosley i think the germans were way 1275 00:48:08,309 --> 00:48:06,800 ahead a lot of technology 1276 00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:08,319 i think they really were working with 1277 00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:11,359 ets uh hermann oberth 1278 00:48:15,430 --> 00:48:13,119 said in the nuremberg trials you know we 1279 00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:15,440 had help from people from other worlds 1280 00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:17,280 i love that quote i've heard that a lot 1281 00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:19,680 of different places 1282 00:48:24,309 --> 00:48:22,240 you know i have to disagree um i don't i 1283 00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:24,319 agree with jp farrell they probably 1284 00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:27,040 cobbled together a few you know discs 1285 00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:29,440 that floated and wobbled and flew a 1286 00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:31,359 little bit but the fields were very 1287 00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:33,359 destabilized 1288 00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:35,200 the bell generator created a lot of 1289 00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:37,839 radiation it was it was version one you 1290 00:48:43,589 --> 00:48:40,640 know this was really bad this is very 1291 00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:43,599 high technology but implemented not very 1292 00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:44,400 well 1293 00:48:48,549 --> 00:48:46,480 prototypes prototypes are gonna not 1294 00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:48,559 always work right right did they take 1295 00:48:53,670 --> 00:48:50,720 them to antarctica you know i don't know 1296 00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:53,680 but antarctica today is swarming with 1297 00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:55,280 military bases 1298 00:49:01,829 --> 00:48:59,510 yeah we should be an inconvenient place 1299 00:49:03,910 --> 00:49:01,839 to put a military base you know it 1300 00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:03,920 sounds ridiculous you know nazi flying 1301 00:49:08,549 --> 00:49:06,400 saucers hitler in space on the moon with 1302 00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:08,559 a swastika moon base it sounds 1303 00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:11,520 ridiculous i agree but if you do the 1304 00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:13,839 deep work and all the esoteric work the 1305 00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:16,559 nazis were into the vril society the 1306 00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:19,200 supposed drill propulsion workshop with 1307 00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:21,920 schauberger and and uh walter gerlack 1308 00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:24,400 and all these guys in there 1309 00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:26,480 it kind of makes more 1310 00:49:30,069 --> 00:49:27,520 sense 1311 00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:30,079 um i think they were well on their way 1312 00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:33,359 um i met a guy um you know i swear on 1313 00:49:36,790 --> 00:49:35,760 the on the holy bible whatever that's 1314 00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:36,800 worth 1315 00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:38,800 his father was a three-star air force 1316 00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:40,160 general 1317 00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:43,040 and he said let me show you something i 1318 00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:45,119 my navy seal buddies and i blew up the 1319 00:49:48,069 --> 00:49:46,240 safe 1320 00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:48,079 and i said [\h__\h] and i'm looking at this 1321 00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:50,000 safe it's all blown up and he shows me 1322 00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:52,480 mimeograph documents from the 60s 1323 00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:54,160 and you're too young to remember but we 1324 00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:56,480 had mimeographs when i was a kid at 1325 00:50:01,750 --> 00:49:59,599 school it wasn't with the carbon paper 1326 00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:01,760 right i got in trouble in school once 1327 00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:03,359 because you know when the teacher tells 1328 00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:05,920 you to write this 800 times i use carbon 1329 00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:07,440 paper and i got called you all tried 1330 00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:08,800 that it didn't 1331 00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:10,880 get caught 1332 00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:16,470 and so 1333 00:50:21,670 --> 00:50:19,520 he had thousands of these documents my 1334 00:50:24,309 --> 00:50:21,680 jaw hit the floor and they were all the 1335 00:50:25,589 --> 00:50:24,319 hanabu craft with u.s air force serial 1336 00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:25,599 numbers on them 1337 00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:27,040 oh i'd love to see those kind of 1338 00:50:30,549 --> 00:50:28,240 documents 1339 00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:30,559 um you know i he begged him to give me 1340 00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:31,920 some but you know no one would believe 1341 00:50:36,549 --> 00:50:34,160 them anyway some teenager cobble them up 1342 00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:36,559 on i could cobble them up i'm an artist 1343 00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:38,720 and a writer you know that's not proof 1344 00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:40,480 documents aren't proof 1345 00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:41,680 you know people say they can 1346 00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:43,440 authenticate it well who's checking the 1347 00:50:47,589 --> 00:50:45,119 fact checkers on that 1348 00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:47,599 and so i just defer you know grier and i 1349 00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:49,359 had this argument i said documents just 1350 00:50:52,470 --> 00:50:51,200 aren't they're somewhat interesting but 1351 00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:52,480 they're not 1352 00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:53,760 you know it's like the admiral wilson 1353 00:50:57,910 --> 00:50:55,440 documents that was a nothing burger no 1354 00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:57,920 one's you needed a naval officer to say 1355 00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:00,880 these are genuine no one oh i have uh i 1356 00:51:07,109 --> 00:51:04,400 have an ongoing dispute and and uh 1357 00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:07,119 argument and and richard dolan is is not 1358 00:51:11,829 --> 00:51:09,520 a big fan of mine because what i've said 1359 00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:11,839 about the wilson documents is that if 1360 00:51:16,390 --> 00:51:14,160 you really listen to richard dolan all 1361 00:51:18,549 --> 00:51:16,400 eight hours or ten hours of him trying 1362 00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:18,559 to prove that there is there is 1363 00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:21,119 something like 12 anonymous sources he 1364 00:51:25,910 --> 00:51:23,760 uses to route the presentation to try to 1365 00:51:28,309 --> 00:51:25,920 prove to you they're real and my point 1366 00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:28,319 is if you need 12 anonymous sources to 1367 00:51:34,230 --> 00:51:31,520 say something is real it's probably fake 1368 00:51:35,670 --> 00:51:34,240 and and admiral wilson himself denied 1369 00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:35,680 that they're real so that they're 1370 00:51:41,349 --> 00:51:39,359 working for a problem um yeah i mean 1371 00:51:43,270 --> 00:51:41,359 they they just they may everyone made a 1372 00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:43,280 big to-do about it and i thought it was 1373 00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:45,599 just it was just more documents more 1374 00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:48,319 stories there's no corroboration of it 1375 00:51:51,190 --> 00:51:49,680 yeah i thought it was a nothing burger 1376 00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:51,200 and certainly not the ufo leak of the 1377 00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:54,240 century yeah i mean 1378 00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:55,920 richard dolan's early work was 1379 00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:57,680 foundational he did a great job he 1380 00:52:02,309 --> 00:51:59,040 coined the terms 1381 00:52:07,349 --> 00:52:05,750 and says i have proof it's not proof 1382 00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:07,359 you know it's stupid these people are 1383 00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:09,599 stupid he makes his living i understand 1384 00:52:13,589 --> 00:52:11,440 he's going to make a buck i think he was 1385 00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:13,599 a pet therapist beforehand 1386 00:52:16,549 --> 00:52:14,720 um 1387 00:52:18,309 --> 00:52:16,559 he was a therapist of some time i don't 1388 00:52:19,589 --> 00:52:18,319 know i got a background check report on 1389 00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:19,599 him that said that he worked at a 1390 00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:21,680 heating and air conditioning company or 1391 00:52:25,990 --> 00:52:23,680 something i don't know if exactly 1392 00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:26,000 you know but whatever you know it's like 1393 00:52:29,349 --> 00:52:27,520 i knock him a lot too because he 1394 00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:29,359 deserves it he's joined the chris 1395 00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:32,240 elizondo you know chris elizondo club 1396 00:52:34,790 --> 00:52:33,920 you see that there's common ground in 1397 00:52:36,549 --> 00:52:34,800 chris 1398 00:52:38,549 --> 00:52:36,559 there's some things we can agree on and 1399 00:52:40,710 --> 00:52:38,559 one thing is richard dolan is a kind of 1400 00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:40,720 a joke and by the way we caught him with 1401 00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:43,520 that cia anonymous deathbed confession 1402 00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:46,240 uh but we caught him he interviewed a 1403 00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:48,640 dead man john he interviewed a man in 1404 00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:51,760 2014 that was dead in 2008 according to 1405 00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:53,119 other reports 1406 00:52:58,069 --> 00:52:55,760 i don't know how he did that so and he 1407 00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:58,079 said that he was going to he said he 1408 00:53:03,589 --> 00:52:59,200 said 1409 00:53:05,270 --> 00:53:03,599 gonna get on top of this and i'll make a 1410 00:53:08,230 --> 00:53:05,280 statement about it that was six months 1411 00:53:09,910 --> 00:53:08,240 ago so every chance i get i remind him 1412 00:53:12,390 --> 00:53:09,920 you you're supposed to make a statement 1413 00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:12,400 how did you interview a dead man 1414 00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:15,520 in 2014 that died in 2008 and by the way 1415 00:53:19,589 --> 00:53:17,280 even if the guy wasn't dead he was a 1416 00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:19,599 fraud and a fake source brought by linda 1417 00:53:25,030 --> 00:53:21,839 mulhal and we have proof of that we're 1418 00:53:28,150 --> 00:53:26,470 it's like somebody might have leaked 1419 00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:28,160 those wilson documents just to get 1420 00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:30,640 everyone's fur and everyone's opinions 1421 00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:33,040 in a twist and boy did it work 1422 00:53:36,710 --> 00:53:34,640 and i was like well these documents are 1423 00:53:38,470 --> 00:53:36,720 interesting and i i checked the navy you 1424 00:53:40,390 --> 00:53:38,480 know actually my dad was alive we 1425 00:53:43,990 --> 00:53:40,400 checked some of the people in it 1426 00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:44,000 um and they were legit and so but no one 1427 00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:46,079 came forward so it's just a 1428 00:53:50,630 --> 00:53:48,640 interesting story with documents you 1429 00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:50,640 know and the problem is you know people 1430 00:53:55,349 --> 00:53:52,880 like dolan i'm really afraid that that 1431 00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:55,359 somebody knocked on his door 1432 00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:57,119 and said we're going to kill you and all 1433 00:54:01,030 --> 00:53:59,440 your family here's a here's a briefcase 1434 00:54:02,790 --> 00:54:01,040 with a million dollars 1435 00:54:04,390 --> 00:54:02,800 what are you going to choose 1436 00:54:06,549 --> 00:54:04,400 and you know anyone would take the 1437 00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:06,559 million dollars and and then okay this 1438 00:54:10,470 --> 00:54:08,160 is what you could talk about and this is 1439 00:54:12,790 --> 00:54:10,480 what you can't talk about i've heard 1440 00:54:14,309 --> 00:54:12,800 this payoff thing before no that's a 1441 00:54:16,710 --> 00:54:14,319 common 1442 00:54:18,390 --> 00:54:16,720 tactic the cia used to do it with world 1443 00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:18,400 leaders they go into some banana 1444 00:54:23,270 --> 00:54:20,880 republic you know help the 1445 00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:23,280 you know warlord overthrow the the 1446 00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:25,760 government and then now he's their 1447 00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:28,079 leader and they pay him off they with 1448 00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:30,720 tons of cash that's a common 1449 00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:32,880 way to blackmail somebody i mean 1450 00:54:36,829 --> 00:54:34,880 a threat followed by a lot of money 1451 00:54:40,549 --> 00:54:36,839 that's it works like a 1452 00:54:43,190 --> 00:54:40,559 charm that's that's intel 101 stuff you 1453 00:54:45,589 --> 00:54:43,200 know so i mean these people that have 1454 00:54:48,230 --> 00:54:45,599 joined the uap thing 1455 00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:48,240 you know it's very suspicious uh ross 1456 00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:51,040 cooltard and all these senators you know 1457 00:54:55,589 --> 00:54:53,680 absolutely promised money and fame and 1458 00:54:58,309 --> 00:54:55,599 more exposure 1459 00:55:01,349 --> 00:54:58,319 politician wants that any any reporter 1460 00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:01,359 newscaster or what is he's a journalist 1461 00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:03,920 my god they'll do anything for stories 1462 00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:05,200 and access 1463 00:55:09,430 --> 00:55:07,280 i mean you know 1464 00:55:11,589 --> 00:55:09,440 you know ross coulthard comes out on 1465 00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:11,599 some video and says i talked to an 1466 00:55:16,789 --> 00:55:14,160 australian general who saw a glowing orb 1467 00:55:18,950 --> 00:55:16,799 over a military base 1468 00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:18,960 who gives a flying [\h__\h] 1469 00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:20,640 the hardware is not the issue that's a 1470 00:55:25,990 --> 00:55:23,520 whole other agenda is this hardware the 1471 00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:26,000 sighting oh richard dolan talks about 1472 00:55:29,589 --> 00:55:28,640 sightings you know the 1968 sightings 1473 00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:29,599 still 1474 00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:31,920 you know it's a distraction 1475 00:55:36,789 --> 00:55:33,920 it's an obvious distraction the signings 1476 00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:36,799 aren't important the politics of ufos is 1477 00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:39,440 important the dirty laundry the deals 1478 00:55:44,470 --> 00:55:41,839 the potentialities 1479 00:55:46,829 --> 00:55:44,480 the skullduggery the the really 1480 00:55:49,030 --> 00:55:46,839 crimes against humanity level 1481 00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:49,040 possibilities that's what they want to 1482 00:55:52,870 --> 00:55:50,880 distract the public from 1483 00:55:54,390 --> 00:55:52,880 that's where i'm getting flack from the 1484 00:55:55,829 --> 00:55:54,400 people don't want to hear that they want 1485 00:55:58,789 --> 00:55:55,839 to be on 1486 00:56:00,789 --> 00:55:58,799 space kitty cat videos and and you know 1487 00:56:02,549 --> 00:56:00,799 they want you to be nice to everybody 1488 00:56:04,390 --> 00:56:02,559 and it's like no 1489 00:56:07,109 --> 00:56:04,400 well this is one reason why i respect 1490 00:56:09,430 --> 00:56:07,119 you because i get the same thing because 1491 00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:09,440 i don't play the game with these ufo 1492 00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:12,319 fluffers any of them if they're lying or 1493 00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:14,559 they're selling fake [\h__\h] i say these 1494 00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:16,640 people are lying their education's fake 1495 00:56:21,270 --> 00:56:18,400 or whatever it is they're selling fake 1496 00:56:22,789 --> 00:56:21,280 [\h__\h] and and call people out and there 1497 00:56:24,950 --> 00:56:22,799 seems to be this unwritten rule don't 1498 00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:24,960 you think that that all the ufo guys 1499 00:56:28,870 --> 00:56:26,559 should play nice together and just help 1500 00:56:30,870 --> 00:56:28,880 each other sell their [\h__\h] and not 1501 00:56:32,549 --> 00:56:30,880 you know go against the guy if you think 1502 00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:32,559 he's stone [\h__\h] 1503 00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:35,040 you know obviously it's an agenda by the 1504 00:56:39,750 --> 00:56:37,680 cia and whoever um to keep the 1505 00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:39,760 disclosure movement bitterly fighting 1506 00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:42,160 amongst ourselves and it you know so i 1507 00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:45,200 try to stay out of the fight i i do 1508 00:56:50,789 --> 00:56:48,000 come down on you know chris liu and 1509 00:56:53,030 --> 00:56:50,799 dolan and ross coulthard and others 1510 00:56:53,910 --> 00:56:53,040 because they're so public 1511 00:57:07,190 --> 00:56:53,920 and 1512 00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:07,200 corrupt people all the time 1513 00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:10,160 um i'm in that world elite world where 1514 00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:12,720 you know i have friends 1515 00:57:16,390 --> 00:57:14,960 very wealthy friends who are like well 1516 00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:16,400 you know the senator's not going to 1517 00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:19,760 clean up the the bay next to the harbor 1518 00:57:24,309 --> 00:57:22,000 and next fall you know 1519 00:57:25,990 --> 00:57:24,319 lo and behold he passes a bill and the 1520 00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:26,000 the harbor and bay get cleaned up and 1521 00:57:31,430 --> 00:57:28,319 the the housing prices go up 1522 00:57:32,309 --> 00:57:31,440 uh things get done with money 1523 00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:32,319 um 1524 00:57:35,829 --> 00:57:34,000 yeah you're right about that you know 1525 00:57:38,069 --> 00:57:35,839 you know what i mean i believe him but 1526 00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:38,079 you know there are others who work their 1527 00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:40,640 way up i i met a lovely woman who was a 1528 00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:41,760 senator 1529 00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:43,760 running for senate and she lost 35 1530 00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:45,839 million dollars of her own money and she 1531 00:57:52,950 --> 00:57:51,030 i said why are you 1532 00:57:55,109 --> 00:57:52,960 fundraising to go again and losing all 1533 00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:55,119 this money and she's like 1534 00:58:00,630 --> 00:57:57,200 it's so addictive 1535 00:58:02,150 --> 00:58:00,640 the fame the power perceived power 1536 00:58:03,589 --> 00:58:02,160 because they're really not that powerful 1537 00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:03,599 good congress and 1538 00:58:06,309 --> 00:58:04,559 the white house they're not that 1539 00:58:08,309 --> 00:58:06,319 powerful it's the deep state people in 1540 00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:08,319 the shadows calling the big shots on the 1541 00:58:10,870 --> 00:58:09,359 plane what do you think because you're 1542 00:58:12,549 --> 00:58:10,880 wealthy like don't you think wealthy 1543 00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:12,559 people get bored like no offense but you 1544 00:58:15,750 --> 00:58:14,160 became a race car driver and you could 1545 00:58:16,950 --> 00:58:15,760 have done anything you could have done 1546 00:58:18,549 --> 00:58:16,960 anything because you were so wealthy 1547 00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:18,559 something i was interested in i was 1548 00:58:21,829 --> 00:58:20,400 always a gear head yeah but i guess 1549 00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:21,839 after you have all the money in the 1550 00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:24,640 world the next thing that would probably 1551 00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:27,119 excite you or make you uh 1552 00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:28,799 you know get out of bed in the morning 1553 00:58:34,230 --> 00:58:31,760 is is power and more power right it's 1554 00:58:35,109 --> 00:58:34,240 it's power is like getting on my back 1555 00:58:36,789 --> 00:58:35,119 baby 1556 00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:36,799 not you i'm saying a lot of wealthy 1557 00:58:41,030 --> 00:58:38,880 people oh absolutely it's the ultimate 1558 00:58:43,109 --> 00:58:41,040 secret power and wealth 1559 00:58:45,589 --> 00:58:43,119 is the ultimate aphrodisiac 1560 00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:45,599 and um you see it i mean look at elon 1561 00:58:50,069 --> 00:58:47,760 musk i mean he's just high on his own 1562 00:58:51,990 --> 00:58:50,079 pheromones 1563 00:58:53,910 --> 00:58:52,000 is nuttier than you think he's doing 1564 00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:53,920 great work in rockets though because i i 1565 00:58:58,069 --> 00:58:55,520 happen to like i grew up building 1566 00:58:59,990 --> 00:58:58,079 rockets and i know it is but he's doing 1567 00:59:01,910 --> 00:59:00,000 it better he's doing it better than 1568 00:59:04,069 --> 00:59:01,920 anybody else though you got to say that 1569 00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:04,079 he's doing it better than anybody better 1570 00:59:09,190 --> 00:59:06,960 than nasa ever did it's a massive cover 1571 00:59:11,349 --> 00:59:09,200 okay they're cheap delivery vehicles i 1572 00:59:12,789 --> 00:59:11,359 understand that they're cheap but and 1573 00:59:14,630 --> 00:59:12,799 he's talking about a rocket that goes 1574 00:59:18,069 --> 00:59:14,640 from the united states to 1575 00:59:20,710 --> 00:59:18,079 asia to deliver a payload and i'm like 1576 00:59:22,630 --> 00:59:20,720 okay you know they have yeah 1577 00:59:24,069 --> 00:59:22,640 anti-gravity stuff that can do that in 1578 00:59:26,069 --> 00:59:24,079 five minutes you know 1579 00:59:27,190 --> 00:59:26,079 he's doing all this rocket stuff and 1580 00:59:28,870 --> 00:59:27,200 it's a major 1581 00:59:31,030 --> 00:59:28,880 it's a functional 1582 00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:31,040 thing but it's also a major distraction 1583 00:59:34,950 --> 00:59:32,640 chemical rockets you can't mine 1584 00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:34,960 asteroids in space with chemical rockets 1585 00:59:38,069 --> 00:59:36,880 jp farrell was right about that daniel 1586 00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:38,079 list had him on and they were like 1587 00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:40,480 there's no way you could do that 1588 00:59:43,510 --> 00:59:42,240 i just heard that and i agree with that 1589 00:59:49,190 --> 00:59:43,520 i agree with it a hundred percent you 1590 00:59:52,309 --> 00:59:50,549 yeah you have to add up the little 1591 00:59:54,470 --> 00:59:52,319 things most people don't want to do the 1592 00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:54,480 heavy lifting or the long hours of 1593 00:59:57,670 --> 00:59:55,680 homework 1594 00:59:59,589 --> 00:59:57,680 i've always been a writer historian or 1595 01:00:01,510 --> 00:59:59,599 researcher and i've always read books 1596 01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:01,520 and i've always been you know chariots 1597 01:00:05,510 --> 01:00:04,000 of the gods and you know megaliths and 1598 01:00:07,190 --> 01:00:05,520 and things like that all throughout my 1599 01:00:09,030 --> 01:00:07,200 life in fact when i was a racing driver 1600 01:00:11,589 --> 01:00:09,040 there's long hours of boredom between 1601 01:00:12,470 --> 01:00:11,599 practice and i was always reading books 1602 01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:12,480 yeah 1603 01:00:17,190 --> 01:00:15,599 sci-fi also but also history and and 1604 01:00:19,030 --> 01:00:17,200 everything i could lay my hands on my 1605 01:00:20,710 --> 01:00:19,040 girlfriend at the time called me mr 1606 01:00:23,589 --> 01:00:20,720 sponge 1607 01:00:26,069 --> 01:00:23,599 yeah i was kind of because i could not 1608 01:00:28,710 --> 01:00:26,079 yeah yeah i just could not i needed i 1609 01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:28,720 wanted to learn everything about every 1610 01:00:32,150 --> 01:00:30,640 good way to be that's a good way to be 1611 01:00:33,270 --> 01:00:32,160 and i've noticed that about you that you 1612 01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:33,280 seem to 1613 01:00:39,190 --> 01:00:37,200 you sponge everything up in conspiracy 1614 01:00:40,870 --> 01:00:39,200 land and then you form your own 1615 01:00:42,470 --> 01:00:40,880 conclusions which i think is a healthy 1616 01:00:44,390 --> 01:00:42,480 way to to do it 1617 01:00:46,549 --> 01:00:44,400 but i do i will say i think you've been 1618 01:00:47,829 --> 01:00:46,559 too kind to some people but i let it go 1619 01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:47,839 because i agree with you on so many 1620 01:00:51,190 --> 01:00:48,960 other things 1621 01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:51,200 i mean so that guy's a nutter why is he 1622 01:00:55,349 --> 01:00:53,680 listening to him right you know but then 1623 01:00:57,430 --> 01:00:55,359 i probably listen to some guys you think 1624 01:01:00,069 --> 01:00:57,440 are nutters everyone everybody's got 1625 01:01:02,549 --> 01:01:00,079 their own you know 1626 01:01:04,870 --> 01:01:02,559 level that everyone in the disclosure 1627 01:01:06,710 --> 01:01:04,880 movement from from the big people to the 1628 01:01:08,470 --> 01:01:06,720 small people are very interesting and 1629 01:01:09,670 --> 01:01:08,480 they all have interesting points to 1630 01:01:11,270 --> 01:01:09,680 consider 1631 01:01:13,030 --> 01:01:11,280 and that's some of the great characters 1632 01:01:15,030 --> 01:01:13,040 it's like a character right everything 1633 01:01:16,950 --> 01:01:15,040 it's like characters 1634 01:01:19,349 --> 01:01:16,960 like you know i don't want to read this 1635 01:01:22,150 --> 01:01:19,359 you know it's it's like yeah i want to 1636 01:01:24,870 --> 01:01:22,160 hear what everyone has to say because to 1637 01:01:26,630 --> 01:01:24,880 formulate any kind of it's like i write 1638 01:01:29,109 --> 01:01:26,640 my books i learn everything i can about 1639 01:01:30,390 --> 01:01:29,119 the occult and nazism and world war ii 1640 01:01:33,510 --> 01:01:30,400 and you know i already knew a lot of 1641 01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:33,520 that stuff but i i roamed up on it 1642 01:01:36,950 --> 01:01:35,839 because i don't i want to speak from 1643 01:01:39,430 --> 01:01:36,960 knowledge 1644 01:01:41,349 --> 01:01:39,440 and yes historical novels you can create 1645 01:01:43,829 --> 01:01:41,359 a lot of fantasy stuff to go along with 1646 01:01:46,390 --> 01:01:43,839 it but that also it springs from 1647 01:01:47,589 --> 01:01:46,400 you know something real in my mind 1648 01:01:49,670 --> 01:01:47,599 and so it's the same thing with a 1649 01:01:52,789 --> 01:01:49,680 disclosure movement you gotta you gotta 1650 01:01:54,230 --> 01:01:52,799 in my view you gotta consider everyone 1651 01:01:56,309 --> 01:01:54,240 you know there have been people on my 1652 01:01:57,990 --> 01:01:56,319 twitter feed and they sent me a little 1653 01:02:01,109 --> 01:01:58,000 something or link or something i'm like 1654 01:02:03,190 --> 01:02:01,119 holy [\h__\h] this is really interesting 1655 01:02:06,230 --> 01:02:03,200 and i tell them that i said this yeah 1656 01:02:08,069 --> 01:02:06,240 you could go down that rabbit hole i 1657 01:02:09,270 --> 01:02:08,079 and that's how you know everyone learns 1658 01:02:10,390 --> 01:02:09,280 that way 1659 01:02:12,390 --> 01:02:10,400 you know 1660 01:02:13,589 --> 01:02:12,400 all these big historians and everybody 1661 01:02:15,430 --> 01:02:13,599 you know they all learn from other 1662 01:02:17,670 --> 01:02:15,440 people in books and archives and things 1663 01:02:21,270 --> 01:02:17,680 like that you gotta you gotta cast this 1664 01:02:23,270 --> 01:02:21,280 huge galactic net and so everyone's like 1665 01:02:25,670 --> 01:02:23,280 how can you listen to simon parks and 1666 01:02:27,349 --> 01:02:25,680 i'm like a lot of times he has some very 1667 01:02:29,349 --> 01:02:27,359 interesting things to say 1668 01:02:31,029 --> 01:02:29,359 you know it doesn't you know i i don't 1669 01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:31,039 give a damn about his trump connections 1670 01:02:35,270 --> 01:02:33,119 or anything like that but 1671 01:02:37,910 --> 01:02:35,280 well don't you think that though 1672 01:02:39,990 --> 01:02:37,920 he's not a dark person there is a very 1673 01:02:42,549 --> 01:02:40,000 benevolent person don't you think though 1674 01:02:44,870 --> 01:02:42,559 that there is this uh i call it ufo 1675 01:02:46,470 --> 01:02:44,880 disease right and it's and it's what you 1676 01:02:47,990 --> 01:02:46,480 mentioned about dolan like when dolan 1677 01:02:50,789 --> 01:02:48,000 first came out he did some really 1678 01:02:53,430 --> 01:02:50,799 pivotal he did some really respectable 1679 01:02:55,190 --> 01:02:53,440 foundational work but then what happens 1680 01:02:56,789 --> 01:02:55,200 and maybe the same for simon parks and 1681 01:02:59,670 --> 01:02:56,799 to be honest with you that somebody that 1682 01:03:01,270 --> 01:02:59,680 you and i disagree on is dr steven greer 1683 01:03:03,270 --> 01:03:01,280 i think a lot of these guys including 1684 01:03:04,309 --> 01:03:03,280 these three when they first come out 1685 01:03:06,390 --> 01:03:04,319 they do 1686 01:03:08,069 --> 01:03:06,400 their best work right 1687 01:03:09,990 --> 01:03:08,079 and then what happens is they work the 1688 01:03:11,829 --> 01:03:10,000 conference circuit they've made the 1689 01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:11,839 money that they could from their first 1690 01:03:14,390 --> 01:03:13,200 good work 1691 01:03:16,870 --> 01:03:14,400 but then 1692 01:03:18,069 --> 01:03:16,880 everybody tires of the same old stories 1693 01:03:19,910 --> 01:03:18,079 that they've been telling for years and 1694 01:03:22,870 --> 01:03:19,920 they need new material 1695 01:03:27,430 --> 01:03:22,880 and then it gets diluted it gets watered 1696 01:03:29,670 --> 01:03:27,440 down it gets not so true or not so 1697 01:03:31,829 --> 01:03:29,680 uh evidentiary supported you know 1698 01:03:33,750 --> 01:03:31,839 supported by evidence i think a lot of 1699 01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:33,760 these guys suffer from that isn't that a 1700 01:03:37,829 --> 01:03:35,280 thing here because i've seen it with 1701 01:03:40,150 --> 01:03:37,839 many people doctor or what is it cliff 1702 01:03:42,150 --> 01:03:40,160 stone uh and and 1703 01:03:43,109 --> 01:03:42,160 who's the guy with the assessment robert 1704 01:03:44,710 --> 01:03:43,119 dean 1705 01:03:46,549 --> 01:03:44,720 many of these guys when they first came 1706 01:03:49,190 --> 01:03:46,559 out you listen to him and you go this 1707 01:03:51,109 --> 01:03:49,200 sounds really credible he's got a really 1708 01:03:53,349 --> 01:03:51,119 great compelling story and this seems 1709 01:03:55,270 --> 01:03:53,359 logical but then like with robert dean 1710 01:03:57,589 --> 01:03:55,280 as years went on towards the end he's 1711 01:03:59,510 --> 01:03:57,599 talking about he was a pharaoh in his 1712 01:04:02,150 --> 01:03:59,520 past life and he was alexander the 1713 01:04:03,829 --> 01:04:02,160 greatness past life and all these crazy 1714 01:04:05,349 --> 01:04:03,839 weird things that he starts talking 1715 01:04:06,630 --> 01:04:05,359 about that had nothing to do with the 1716 01:04:08,950 --> 01:04:06,640 good work 1717 01:04:10,950 --> 01:04:08,960 the compelling work that he once did 1718 01:04:12,470 --> 01:04:10,960 isn't that because of the the financial 1719 01:04:13,750 --> 01:04:12,480 motive they gotta keep coming up with 1720 01:04:16,710 --> 01:04:13,760 new stuff 1721 01:04:19,349 --> 01:04:16,720 right i mean that it's a very broad 1722 01:04:21,750 --> 01:04:19,359 topic um everyone burns out anyone who's 1723 01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:21,760 been at the ufo game i'm tired i'm 1724 01:04:26,789 --> 01:04:24,000 burning me too and i'm i'm a youngin 1725 01:04:28,950 --> 01:04:26,799 here compared to some veterans right 1726 01:04:30,789 --> 01:04:28,960 now who can blame people for burning out 1727 01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:30,799 um they've been threatened more than 1728 01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:31,920 likely 1729 01:04:36,390 --> 01:04:33,680 um 1730 01:04:38,870 --> 01:04:36,400 the cia sends them fake whistleblowers 1731 01:04:40,950 --> 01:04:38,880 on occasion i i think i've been a victim 1732 01:04:43,029 --> 01:04:40,960 of that i think that's for sure i truly 1733 01:04:45,349 --> 01:04:43,039 believe they're reporting a true story 1734 01:04:47,190 --> 01:04:45,359 when the guys at the cia langley are 1735 01:04:49,349 --> 01:04:47,200 laughing you know 1736 01:04:51,430 --> 01:04:49,359 everyone can succumb to that i mean 1737 01:04:53,510 --> 01:04:51,440 certainly i can too 1738 01:04:56,150 --> 01:04:53,520 my wife tells me if she's xcia i mean 1739 01:04:58,549 --> 01:04:56,160 she tells me how it's all done 1740 01:05:01,029 --> 01:04:58,559 and you know my grandfather was oss and 1741 01:05:04,150 --> 01:05:01,039 the cia and i've had cousins in the cia 1742 01:05:06,150 --> 01:05:04,160 and nsa and dia o and i my best friend 1743 01:05:08,309 --> 01:05:06,160 was in the o and i was your family is 1744 01:05:10,390 --> 01:05:08,319 just full of alphabet soup oh yeah that 1745 01:05:12,150 --> 01:05:10,400 is crazy yeah that's why i thought you 1746 01:05:15,029 --> 01:05:12,160 were illuminati because you know there's 1747 01:05:17,029 --> 01:05:15,039 not so many of these connections 1748 01:05:19,670 --> 01:05:17,039 there's only about 150 of us alive at 1749 01:05:20,950 --> 01:05:19,680 any given time we're pretty small 1750 01:05:22,950 --> 01:05:20,960 um 1751 01:05:26,069 --> 01:05:22,960 i've been told by military people that 1752 01:05:28,390 --> 01:05:26,079 we've had 40 spooks in the mellon family 1753 01:05:31,109 --> 01:05:28,400 since world war ii and maybe slightly 1754 01:05:33,190 --> 01:05:31,119 before navy intelligence and the like 1755 01:05:34,549 --> 01:05:33,200 that's a lot for a small family well 1756 01:05:36,470 --> 01:05:34,559 maybe not though because don't you think 1757 01:05:38,710 --> 01:05:36,480 it would be logical to get a family that 1758 01:05:41,589 --> 01:05:38,720 is wealthy and very well educated and 1759 01:05:42,470 --> 01:05:41,599 use them as resource thank you there you 1760 01:05:44,390 --> 01:05:42,480 go 1761 01:05:46,150 --> 01:05:44,400 you guys are incredibly well educated 1762 01:05:48,309 --> 01:05:46,160 aren't you most of you no i mean because 1763 01:05:50,230 --> 01:05:48,319 you have the money to spend eight years 1764 01:05:51,349 --> 01:05:50,240 getting an education if you choose to 1765 01:05:53,910 --> 01:05:51,359 but remember 1766 01:05:55,109 --> 01:05:53,920 that schools teach mostly a [\h__\h] 1767 01:05:57,029 --> 01:05:55,119 curriculum 1768 01:05:59,109 --> 01:05:57,039 yeah i mean i believe in self-education 1769 01:06:02,470 --> 01:05:59,119 myself yeah literally 1770 01:06:05,589 --> 01:06:02,480 fine basic math is fine english is fine 1771 01:06:08,069 --> 01:06:05,599 uh arts music that's all fine but when 1772 01:06:10,309 --> 01:06:08,079 you get into physics math and history 1773 01:06:12,549 --> 01:06:10,319 uh that's been tainted 1774 01:06:15,109 --> 01:06:12,559 so you can go to harvard i mean i've i 1775 01:06:16,630 --> 01:06:15,119 know some harvard phd types that i that 1776 01:06:19,670 --> 01:06:16,640 they're my friends 1777 01:06:22,069 --> 01:06:19,680 but they're idiots 1778 01:06:24,950 --> 01:06:22,079 my father used to say 1779 01:06:27,109 --> 01:06:24,960 what the [\h__\h] a ufo is or you know they 1780 01:06:29,190 --> 01:06:27,119 always say to me oh if the aliens were 1781 01:06:30,549 --> 01:06:29,200 real they would have shown themselves by 1782 01:06:31,670 --> 01:06:30,559 now 1783 01:06:34,309 --> 01:06:31,680 i'm like have you ever heard of the deep 1784 01:06:36,309 --> 01:06:34,319 state or anything and they're like no 1785 01:06:38,309 --> 01:06:36,319 yeah my father used to say phd piled 1786 01:06:39,510 --> 01:06:38,319 higher and deeper right 1787 01:06:41,190 --> 01:06:39,520 well 1788 01:06:43,270 --> 01:06:41,200 you know you remember gordon gekko in 1789 01:06:44,950 --> 01:06:43,280 the movie wall street yeah i love that 1790 01:06:46,870 --> 01:06:44,960 movie he says that charlie's seen 1791 01:06:49,589 --> 01:06:46,880 something very smart 1792 01:06:51,829 --> 01:06:49,599 he says [\h__\h] all the harvard phd's and 1793 01:06:53,190 --> 01:06:51,839 grad students give me somebody who's 1794 01:06:55,829 --> 01:06:53,200 really smart 1795 01:06:58,150 --> 01:06:55,839 from the streets who's hungry and i'll 1796 01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:58,160 turn him into a successful businessman i 1797 01:07:01,670 --> 01:07:00,480 believe that too absolutely basically 1798 01:07:03,270 --> 01:07:01,680 you know it doesn't matter what your 1799 01:07:04,870 --> 01:07:03,280 background is 1800 01:07:06,390 --> 01:07:04,880 you know you're smart you know you're 1801 01:07:09,029 --> 01:07:06,400 not an idiot i wouldn't be on here if 1802 01:07:11,349 --> 01:07:09,039 you were you know oh well i am here 1803 01:07:14,470 --> 01:07:11,359 listen i'm myself i'm a self-made man 1804 01:07:16,950 --> 01:07:14,480 and a self-educated man right i quit 1805 01:07:18,870 --> 01:07:16,960 school at 16 and then i went back later 1806 01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:18,880 when i realized like i needed to learn 1807 01:07:24,150 --> 01:07:21,599 more most always really everything i got 1808 01:07:26,470 --> 01:07:24,160 i started business myself i you know my 1809 01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:26,480 family was poor growing up i did my best 1810 01:07:29,430 --> 01:07:27,280 to be 1811 01:07:31,670 --> 01:07:29,440 educate myself and and make my way in 1812 01:07:34,069 --> 01:07:31,680 the world without handouts and i used to 1813 01:07:36,630 --> 01:07:34,079 feel towards people like you like a 1814 01:07:39,109 --> 01:07:36,640 certain kind of way like rich people but 1815 01:07:42,069 --> 01:07:39,119 then i got to know some rich people who 1816 01:07:44,150 --> 01:07:42,079 recognized that i was hungry and smart 1817 01:07:45,750 --> 01:07:44,160 and wanted to help me and a few very 1818 01:07:47,910 --> 01:07:45,760 wealthy people helped me learn some 1819 01:07:49,270 --> 01:07:47,920 things along my way and i no longer have 1820 01:07:50,950 --> 01:07:49,280 that chip on my shoulder because i 1821 01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:50,960 realized people are people whether they 1822 01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:53,440 were born wealthy or they were self-made 1823 01:07:56,789 --> 01:07:55,280 you know it's the same thing across 1824 01:07:59,430 --> 01:07:56,799 society 1825 01:08:01,349 --> 01:07:59,440 it's ten percent or okay twenty percent 1826 01:08:03,190 --> 01:08:01,359 that are jerks and selfish and 1827 01:08:04,150 --> 01:08:03,200 small-minded you know 1828 01:08:07,349 --> 01:08:04,160 but 1829 01:08:09,109 --> 01:08:07,359 most people are are good people um you 1830 01:08:11,029 --> 01:08:09,119 know i i said in 1831 01:08:11,670 --> 01:08:11,039 my interview one of my interviews you 1832 01:08:14,630 --> 01:08:11,680 know 1833 01:08:16,149 --> 01:08:14,640 if if these really elite 300 families 1834 01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:16,159 all the people really knew the truth 1835 01:08:19,910 --> 01:08:17,520 about what was going on with the deep 1836 01:08:22,070 --> 01:08:19,920 state and ufos and our swiss cheese 1837 01:08:24,630 --> 01:08:22,080 history and all the 1838 01:08:27,030 --> 01:08:24,640 they would take to the streets with guns 1839 01:08:28,630 --> 01:08:27,040 because they're moral ethical people 1840 01:08:31,189 --> 01:08:28,640 they they truly believe when they give 1841 01:08:32,709 --> 01:08:31,199 to the world wildlife or some foundation 1842 01:08:35,829 --> 01:08:32,719 or something they're doing good there 1843 01:08:37,829 --> 01:08:35,839 yeah that goes to their money actually 1844 01:08:40,229 --> 01:08:37,839 and so everyone's like oh everyone all 1845 01:08:42,390 --> 01:08:40,239 the rich are [\h__\h] that's not true i 1846 01:08:44,470 --> 01:08:42,400 know a lot of these very very wealthy 1847 01:08:46,070 --> 01:08:44,480 people and uh you know i didn't like 1848 01:08:48,149 --> 01:08:46,080 people like the koch brothers they were 1849 01:08:50,070 --> 01:08:48,159 [\h__\h] but there are others trying to 1850 01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:50,080 use their money to manipulate everyone 1851 01:08:53,590 --> 01:08:51,040 yeah 1852 01:08:55,430 --> 01:08:53,600 there are certain those types 1853 01:08:57,669 --> 01:08:55,440 but 1854 01:08:59,590 --> 01:08:57,679 for every one of those there's there's 1855 01:09:01,430 --> 01:08:59,600 nine other people that are really decent 1856 01:09:05,510 --> 01:09:01,440 people and they really do want to help 1857 01:09:07,030 --> 01:09:05,520 out people but the the system we have 1858 01:09:08,550 --> 01:09:07,040 really prevents 1859 01:09:09,510 --> 01:09:08,560 bluetooth mode 1860 01:09:11,829 --> 01:09:09,520 you know 1861 01:09:13,669 --> 01:09:11,839 it it prevents people from rising up the 1862 01:09:14,789 --> 01:09:13,679 ranks in our caste system it's very 1863 01:09:16,950 --> 01:09:14,799 difficult 1864 01:09:18,709 --> 01:09:16,960 and uh when you start to you know when 1865 01:09:20,309 --> 01:09:18,719 uh you start to get up in the hundreds 1866 01:09:21,669 --> 01:09:20,319 of millions you know you start to get 1867 01:09:23,510 --> 01:09:21,679 you start to draw the attention of 1868 01:09:25,829 --> 01:09:23,520 people in the deep state who are like 1869 01:09:27,269 --> 01:09:25,839 how can we control this person 1870 01:09:29,669 --> 01:09:27,279 yeah they got too much money they're too 1871 01:09:31,910 --> 01:09:29,679 free with their marriage right and so 1872 01:09:34,149 --> 01:09:31,920 that's where you get into the elon musks 1873 01:09:35,910 --> 01:09:34,159 and the facebook kid and other things 1874 01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:35,920 this you know these there's also you 1875 01:09:39,910 --> 01:09:37,600 have to remember 1876 01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:39,920 the ciamk ultra mind control thing is 1877 01:09:44,229 --> 01:09:41,520 very real 1878 01:09:46,309 --> 01:09:44,239 it's not hard to to do i've seen 1879 01:09:48,390 --> 01:09:46,319 brainwashing firsthand 1880 01:09:50,309 --> 01:09:48,400 now oh that's interesting view is where 1881 01:09:52,709 --> 01:09:50,319 i saw it but i had a friend who was in a 1882 01:09:54,790 --> 01:09:52,719 cult and then i you know i posed as 1883 01:09:57,590 --> 01:09:54,800 someone i was and i sat in on some of 1884 01:10:00,950 --> 01:09:57,600 these you know groups of people you know 1885 01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:00,960 and i saw brainwashing work like a charm 1886 01:10:04,709 --> 01:10:02,560 you get desperate people and you feed 1887 01:10:06,550 --> 01:10:04,719 them hope and and religion and 1888 01:10:09,189 --> 01:10:06,560 organization 1889 01:10:12,149 --> 01:10:09,199 yeah like these you know and they buy 1890 01:10:14,149 --> 01:10:12,159 into it like nobody's business and i i'm 1891 01:10:16,149 --> 01:10:14,159 i couldn't believe it i saw it firsthand 1892 01:10:17,830 --> 01:10:16,159 i couldn't believe it and so when 1893 01:10:19,750 --> 01:10:17,840 everyone's like oh brainwashing you 1894 01:10:21,990 --> 01:10:19,760 can't do that it it happens every day 1895 01:10:24,149 --> 01:10:22,000 you do it on the tv the radio 1896 01:10:25,910 --> 01:10:24,159 you go to the church on sunday i'm sorry 1897 01:10:28,870 --> 01:10:25,920 you know religion is the biggest mind 1898 01:10:30,630 --> 01:10:28,880 control vehicle on the planet 1899 01:10:32,470 --> 01:10:30,640 did you know that there was a famous 1900 01:10:35,830 --> 01:10:32,480 there's a famous mentalist magician 1901 01:10:38,070 --> 01:10:35,840 named darren brown from england and they 1902 01:10:39,830 --> 01:10:38,080 did an experiment on television where he 1903 01:10:41,830 --> 01:10:39,840 hypnotized somebody 1904 01:10:43,510 --> 01:10:41,840 and they gave them a gun with blanks in 1905 01:10:45,590 --> 01:10:43,520 it and they told him to go down the 1906 01:10:48,310 --> 01:10:45,600 street and shoot this person and the 1907 01:10:50,390 --> 01:10:48,320 person did it time and time again he was 1908 01:10:52,550 --> 01:10:50,400 able to get people to do that yeah it's 1909 01:10:54,790 --> 01:10:52,560 so when people say mind control is not 1910 01:10:57,350 --> 01:10:54,800 real i just point them to that and say 1911 01:10:58,950 --> 01:10:57,360 go look at that oh no we're all we're 1912 01:11:00,709 --> 01:10:58,960 all mind controlled i mean it's like 1913 01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:00,719 every time i see a pop-tart commercial 1914 01:11:07,590 --> 01:11:05,990 you know listen we have a great puzzle 1915 01:11:09,430 --> 01:11:07,600 where it's like ooh cold beer and a 1916 01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:09,440 pop-tart this is a great question and 1917 01:11:13,030 --> 01:11:11,760 i'd like manipulation is easy 1918 01:11:14,070 --> 01:11:13,040 i'd like to hear your opinion on this 1919 01:11:16,229 --> 01:11:14,080 patrick sheehan with the kind and 1920 01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:16,239 generous 999 super chat supporting the 1921 01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:18,640 show uh wants to know what new author or 1922 01:11:23,030 --> 01:11:21,120 book does john warner recommend we read 1923 01:11:24,550 --> 01:11:23,040 over the vacation 1924 01:11:25,830 --> 01:11:24,560 uh i'd like to know like what are some 1925 01:11:27,990 --> 01:11:25,840 of the things you're reading or 1926 01:11:30,790 --> 01:11:28,000 interested in reading or what's on your 1927 01:11:33,110 --> 01:11:30,800 reading list yeah i'm i'm a poorly read 1928 01:11:35,030 --> 01:11:33,120 author and i admit that um but the 1929 01:11:37,910 --> 01:11:35,040 writer i forget his name uh he did the 1930 01:11:39,430 --> 01:11:37,920 book called all the light we cannot see 1931 01:11:40,870 --> 01:11:39,440 which is about world war ii of french 1932 01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:40,880 village in world war ii 1933 01:11:46,950 --> 01:11:44,560 he's a very good writer he's there 1934 01:11:48,870 --> 01:11:46,960 he's very good and and i recommend his 1935 01:11:51,990 --> 01:11:48,880 books i forget his name 1936 01:11:52,830 --> 01:11:52,000 anthony dower oh here we go 1937 01:11:57,510 --> 01:11:52,840 yeah 1938 01:12:00,630 --> 01:11:57,520 some good 1939 01:12:03,430 --> 01:12:00,640 history uh freddy silva's very good 1940 01:12:05,030 --> 01:12:03,440 oh the missing lands yeah he's very good 1941 01:12:07,189 --> 01:12:05,040 that kind of stuff this i i sort of i 1942 01:12:09,830 --> 01:12:07,199 don't have time for novels but i do have 1943 01:12:11,750 --> 01:12:09,840 time to read that guys 1944 01:12:13,350 --> 01:12:11,760 some guys you make time for right you're 1945 01:12:14,070 --> 01:12:13,360 trying to make time for your vlog and i 1946 01:12:19,669 --> 01:12:14,080 got 1947 01:12:21,990 --> 01:12:19,679 tried to read the whole book before we 1948 01:12:24,229 --> 01:12:22,000 we talked but i'm about halfway through 1949 01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:24,239 and so far i'm enjoying it and i'm 1950 01:12:28,149 --> 01:12:26,320 forgetting that it's fiction sometimes 1951 01:12:30,229 --> 01:12:28,159 because 1952 01:12:32,550 --> 01:12:30,239 in your book and then i want to ask you 1953 01:12:35,189 --> 01:12:32,560 about this diction yeah i want to ask 1954 01:12:37,750 --> 01:12:35,199 you about this because there is so many 1955 01:12:40,310 --> 01:12:37,760 historical accuracy 1956 01:12:42,229 --> 01:12:40,320 you got porsche down to like 1957 01:12:45,030 --> 01:12:42,239 where he was at certain times in his 1958 01:12:46,870 --> 01:12:45,040 life i checked i checked 1959 01:12:49,590 --> 01:12:46,880 you know where he was 1960 01:12:51,830 --> 01:12:49,600 what he was doing what he was working on 1961 01:12:53,669 --> 01:12:51,840 as far as porsche goes his relationship 1962 01:12:55,270 --> 01:12:53,679 with the nazi government what he did oh 1963 01:12:57,590 --> 01:12:55,280 yeah that's all true what he was asked 1964 01:13:00,149 --> 01:12:57,600 to do all that is true in your book even 1965 01:13:02,630 --> 01:13:00,159 though it's a work of fiction and it is 1966 01:13:04,709 --> 01:13:02,640 a great story though so far his life is 1967 01:13:07,350 --> 01:13:04,719 actually non-fiction you mean in little 1968 01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:07,360 anton yeah little anton yeah yeah in the 1969 01:13:10,950 --> 01:13:09,040 new book he's a character as well but 1970 01:13:14,149 --> 01:13:10,960 there's there's more you'll enjoy that 1971 01:13:15,430 --> 01:13:14,159 it's faster more exciting more 1972 01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:15,440 more everything 1973 01:13:20,070 --> 01:13:17,440 it's not as long-winded as as little 1974 01:13:22,470 --> 01:13:20,080 anton but yeah it's it's about his life 1975 01:13:24,550 --> 01:13:22,480 and times and that's all true and hitler 1976 01:13:26,310 --> 01:13:24,560 was knew who he was and porsha didn't 1977 01:13:28,550 --> 01:13:26,320 know who hitler was porsche thought 1978 01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:28,560 hitler was an idiot but he also knew 1979 01:13:31,430 --> 01:13:30,480 that's where the money was coming from 1980 01:13:32,870 --> 01:13:31,440 and so 1981 01:13:35,910 --> 01:13:32,880 grand prix racing you know that was 1982 01:13:37,669 --> 01:13:35,920 everything but you know 1983 01:13:38,550 --> 01:13:37,679 porsche made out like a bandit and you 1984 01:13:42,790 --> 01:13:38,560 know 1985 01:13:45,830 --> 01:13:42,800 the tiger tank program along with 1986 01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:45,840 henschel he did tank destroyers and he 1987 01:13:50,550 --> 01:13:47,520 made parts for airplanes at the 1988 01:13:52,950 --> 01:13:50,560 wolfsburg plant vw plant and they had 20 1989 01:13:55,189 --> 01:13:52,960 000 russian workers slaves and i 1990 01:13:57,030 --> 01:13:55,199 mentioned that in my new book i mean 1991 01:13:59,189 --> 01:13:57,040 no one in history so this little anton 1992 01:14:02,229 --> 01:13:59,199 is a series of three and i just want to 1993 01:14:04,390 --> 01:14:02,239 recommend one story but it's three books 1994 01:14:06,550 --> 01:14:04,400 just put little anton or john warner in 1995 01:14:08,229 --> 01:14:06,560 amazon and you can pick up his book yeah 1996 01:14:09,910 --> 01:14:08,239 i think so far it's extremely well 1997 01:14:10,870 --> 01:14:09,920 written and enjoyable because it's kind 1998 01:14:16,229 --> 01:14:10,880 of like a 1999 01:14:18,229 --> 01:14:16,239 novel but set during pre and during 2000 01:14:19,990 --> 01:14:18,239 world war two 2001 01:14:21,910 --> 01:14:20,000 it's not as serious it's more 2002 01:14:23,910 --> 01:14:21,920 tongue-in-cheek than james bond i mean b 2003 01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:23,920 is a fuck-up um 2004 01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:25,760 little anton just skimmed through it but 2005 01:14:29,270 --> 01:14:27,040 read book three because that's pretty 2006 01:14:31,270 --> 01:14:29,280 exciting 2007 01:14:33,350 --> 01:14:31,280 it's too long i admit it it's way too 2008 01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:33,360 long but you know it was my first we 2009 01:14:36,790 --> 01:14:34,640 have an audience member that bought all 2010 01:14:38,630 --> 01:14:36,800 your books a couple of weeks ago 2011 01:14:40,229 --> 01:14:38,640 thank you all prophets to wounded 2012 01:14:41,590 --> 01:14:40,239 veterans charities 2013 01:14:44,070 --> 01:14:41,600 yeah and i just wanted to mention that 2014 01:14:45,990 --> 01:14:44,080 john does a you do a hunt every year for 2015 01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:46,000 wounded we do a uh 2016 01:14:49,830 --> 01:14:47,760 veteran deer hunt in my farm twice a 2017 01:14:50,790 --> 01:14:49,840 year and those people are 2018 01:14:52,310 --> 01:14:50,800 wonderful 2019 01:14:54,310 --> 01:14:52,320 and and they have some interesting 2020 01:14:56,709 --> 01:14:54,320 stories about ufos in the military to 2021 01:15:00,709 --> 01:14:56,719 tell me i heard a lot from vietnam vets 2022 01:15:04,630 --> 01:15:02,470 we had a guy in his 70s he was in 2023 01:15:06,390 --> 01:15:04,640 vietnam i tell this story to i told it 2024 01:15:08,709 --> 01:15:06,400 to junior meredith 2025 01:15:10,390 --> 01:15:08,719 um but he said look i i know who you are 2026 01:15:12,310 --> 01:15:10,400 and i know what you're into 2027 01:15:14,709 --> 01:15:12,320 i have friends out there in the intel 2028 01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:14,719 business i said okay well 2029 01:15:19,750 --> 01:15:18,000 i understand my wife ca and at the this 2030 01:15:20,790 --> 01:15:19,760 is years ago so at the time she still 2031 01:15:23,189 --> 01:15:20,800 was 2032 01:15:25,910 --> 01:15:23,199 and he's like oh yeah i know 2033 01:15:27,669 --> 01:15:25,920 and um he said look i was i can't tell 2034 01:15:29,590 --> 01:15:27,679 you 2035 01:15:32,950 --> 01:15:29,600 where i was or what my unit was but i 2036 01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:32,960 was an army ranger in 66 in vietnam 2037 01:15:41,110 --> 01:15:37,840 and there was 350 of us that had special 2038 01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:41,120 with the nsa and the cia and army g2 and 2039 01:15:44,470 --> 01:15:42,480 and other 2040 01:15:45,270 --> 01:15:44,480 you know three-letter type agencies that 2041 01:15:48,630 --> 01:15:45,280 don't 2042 01:15:50,390 --> 01:15:48,640 exist anymore but probably do 2043 01:15:52,630 --> 01:15:50,400 yeah you know how that works yeah i've 2044 01:15:54,550 --> 01:15:52,640 heard the oss is still a small 2045 01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:54,560 department at the c.i.a oh wow they just 2046 01:16:00,870 --> 01:15:58,080 go away people never get rid of anything 2047 01:16:03,669 --> 01:16:00,880 and so he said look uh i was with a 350 2048 01:16:05,189 --> 01:16:03,679 man battalion we were in laos we were we 2049 01:16:07,430 --> 01:16:05,199 were over the border we were dropped in 2050 01:16:09,189 --> 01:16:07,440 at night and we were going after this 2051 01:16:11,910 --> 01:16:09,199 target i can't tell you what it was 2052 01:16:13,830 --> 01:16:11,920 still classified but um 2053 01:16:15,990 --> 01:16:13,840 we got separated 2054 01:16:18,070 --> 01:16:16,000 and we had a few fire fire fights with 2055 01:16:19,910 --> 01:16:18,080 north vietnamese regulars 2056 01:16:22,630 --> 01:16:19,920 they had come down they figured out our 2057 01:16:25,430 --> 01:16:22,640 drop and somehow they intercepted us 2058 01:16:27,189 --> 01:16:25,440 here's the problem ufos you know strange 2059 01:16:29,590 --> 01:16:27,199 lights and ufos have been following 2060 01:16:30,550 --> 01:16:29,600 their every moon since they parachuted 2061 01:16:32,550 --> 01:16:30,560 in 2062 01:16:33,990 --> 01:16:32,560 he said it was creepy as hell 2063 01:16:35,350 --> 01:16:34,000 they were briefed on it and they said 2064 01:16:36,870 --> 01:16:35,360 don't worry you know you'll see some 2065 01:16:38,229 --> 01:16:36,880 strange things in the sky don't worry 2066 01:16:41,430 --> 01:16:38,239 about it 2067 01:16:42,790 --> 01:16:41,440 well this guy uh got separated with a 2068 01:16:43,910 --> 01:16:42,800 group of his guys they got in a 2069 01:16:46,470 --> 01:16:43,920 firefight 2070 01:16:48,470 --> 01:16:46,480 and i think he said 12 or 15 of them 2071 01:16:49,669 --> 01:16:48,480 made it back to the firebase or whatever 2072 01:16:52,630 --> 01:16:49,679 it was 2073 01:16:54,870 --> 01:16:52,640 and the rest are just missing and they 2074 01:16:56,310 --> 01:16:54,880 said well go find them and so they got 2075 01:16:58,310 --> 01:16:56,320 some other troops they went looking for 2076 01:17:01,189 --> 01:16:58,320 them they found nothing 2077 01:17:03,270 --> 01:17:01,199 no bodies no bodies no vietnamese no 2078 01:17:04,229 --> 01:17:03,280 nothing no gear no guns no backpacks no 2079 01:17:05,110 --> 01:17:04,239 nothing 2080 01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:05,120 and 2081 01:17:10,390 --> 01:17:08,960 uh 2082 01:17:12,709 --> 01:17:10,400 saigon 2083 01:17:14,310 --> 01:17:12,719 and they were in some hangar and you 2084 01:17:16,310 --> 01:17:14,320 know these i got they were special 2085 01:17:17,830 --> 01:17:16,320 forces and so the cia in the end he said 2086 01:17:18,870 --> 01:17:17,840 the nsa was there and he couldn't figure 2087 01:17:20,950 --> 01:17:18,880 out why 2088 01:17:22,390 --> 01:17:20,960 and they [\h__\h] chewed their asses out 2089 01:17:23,990 --> 01:17:22,400 where the [\h__\h] are these guys what 2090 01:17:25,910 --> 01:17:24,000 happened what did you do blah blah tell 2091 01:17:27,669 --> 01:17:25,920 us everything you saw on 2092 01:17:29,510 --> 01:17:27,679 and so [\h__\h] he was like you know he was 2093 01:17:31,030 --> 01:17:29,520 told never to talk about it 2094 01:17:33,510 --> 01:17:31,040 and then he started talking to other 2095 01:17:35,030 --> 01:17:33,520 vets years later who saw ufos and they 2096 01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:35,040 said 2097 01:17:39,030 --> 01:17:37,120 all of a sudden there was a ufo all of a 2098 01:17:40,550 --> 01:17:39,040 sudden our guys went into the jungle 2099 01:17:42,550 --> 01:17:40,560 that way and all of a sudden they were 2100 01:17:45,510 --> 01:17:42,560 just gone 2101 01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:45,520 and then he went to vietnam uh he said i 2102 01:17:50,229 --> 01:17:47,760 think in the early 2000s because a lot 2103 01:17:51,590 --> 01:17:50,239 of vietnam vets a few i've moved back to 2104 01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:51,600 vietnam because it's a beautiful place 2105 01:17:56,070 --> 01:17:54,480 to live it's cheap yeah wonderful food 2106 01:17:58,310 --> 01:17:56,080 and the people are wonderful 2107 01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:58,320 and he said he met some north vietnamese 2108 01:18:01,990 --> 01:18:00,000 regular veterans 2109 01:18:03,990 --> 01:18:02,000 and he said listen let me tell you my 2110 01:18:06,070 --> 01:18:04,000 story and they said [\h__\h] 2111 01:18:08,390 --> 01:18:06,080 we had missing people too 2112 01:18:09,910 --> 01:18:08,400 and we couldn't find anything so as both 2113 01:18:11,510 --> 01:18:09,920 sides had the same 2114 01:18:13,110 --> 01:18:11,520 phenomenon happen and these people 2115 01:18:15,189 --> 01:18:13,120 disappeared completely they didn't find 2116 01:18:16,630 --> 01:18:15,199 the guns they didn't find their bodies 2117 01:18:18,950 --> 01:18:16,640 they didn't find one 2118 01:18:21,430 --> 01:18:18,960 so i talked to dogs equipment guys and 2119 01:18:23,590 --> 01:18:21,440 they said we saw the grey aliens on that 2120 01:18:24,790 --> 01:18:23,600 are on the tv we saw them on a b-52 2121 01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:24,800 crash site 2122 01:18:29,510 --> 01:18:26,880 and then another guy said we think they 2123 01:18:30,709 --> 01:18:29,520 were taking our guys underground 2124 01:18:33,830 --> 01:18:30,719 and so 2125 01:18:35,990 --> 01:18:33,840 that's bizarre the speculation is the 2126 01:18:38,550 --> 01:18:36,000 grays were experimenting on dead and 2127 01:18:40,870 --> 01:18:38,560 live bodies underground for genetics 2128 01:18:43,830 --> 01:18:40,880 and of course maybe this is where a lot 2129 01:18:45,430 --> 01:18:43,840 of our mia go 2130 01:18:47,350 --> 01:18:45,440 because remember an awful lot of missing 2131 01:18:48,870 --> 01:18:47,360 yeah right and in wars and everything 2132 01:18:50,709 --> 01:18:48,880 there's always hundreds of thousands of 2133 01:18:53,110 --> 01:18:50,719 missing 2134 01:18:55,189 --> 01:18:53,120 where did they go 2135 01:18:57,590 --> 01:18:55,199 now this also gets into the occult and 2136 01:18:59,590 --> 01:18:57,600 babylon workings and you know 2137 01:19:01,590 --> 01:18:59,600 mass death rituals which you know 2138 01:19:05,030 --> 01:19:01,600 certain interdimensional 2139 01:19:07,910 --> 01:19:05,040 beings and et's gather you know energy 2140 01:19:10,950 --> 01:19:07,920 from the the mass death and and all that 2141 01:19:12,630 --> 01:19:10,960 stuff it gets super weird and creepy 2142 01:19:13,950 --> 01:19:12,640 but it does according to according to 2143 01:19:17,030 --> 01:19:13,960 google there are still 2144 01:19:18,390 --> 01:19:17,040 1584 completely remaining missing i'm 2145 01:19:19,830 --> 01:19:18,400 sure there's three thousand four 2146 01:19:22,630 --> 01:19:19,840 thousand five thousand they just don't 2147 01:19:24,470 --> 01:19:22,640 tell a [\h__\h] about vietnam yeah remember 2148 01:19:26,870 --> 01:19:24,480 all the body counts you're too young but 2149 01:19:28,470 --> 01:19:26,880 on the cbs no my father my father is a 2150 01:19:31,669 --> 01:19:28,480 vietnam veteran he was a helicopter 2151 01:19:33,830 --> 01:19:31,679 mechanic and boy did he used to tell me 2152 01:19:35,350 --> 01:19:33,840 he told me you can't he actually he's 2153 01:19:36,950 --> 01:19:35,360 part of the reason he's part of my 2154 01:19:38,470 --> 01:19:36,960 problem i guess he's like you can't 2155 01:19:39,830 --> 01:19:38,480 trust anything the government tells you 2156 01:19:41,350 --> 01:19:39,840 nothing that happened in vietnam they 2157 01:19:43,270 --> 01:19:41,360 didn't tell you the truth about any of 2158 01:19:45,189 --> 01:19:43,280 it and all those missing people they 2159 01:19:47,030 --> 01:19:45,199 didn't even try to get them back he lost 2160 01:19:49,430 --> 01:19:47,040 friends you know yeah 2161 01:19:51,750 --> 01:19:49,440 money the cia gained control the golden 2162 01:19:53,430 --> 01:19:51,760 triangle heroin money my uncle stacy 2163 01:19:56,070 --> 01:19:53,440 lloyd was with the american information 2164 01:19:57,750 --> 01:19:56,080 service in laos well look at this walter 2165 01:20:00,470 --> 01:19:57,760 bosley 2166 01:20:02,390 --> 01:20:00,480 family member so i mean it's everyone 2167 01:20:04,229 --> 01:20:02,400 knows about the heroin part 2168 01:20:06,550 --> 01:20:04,239 uh they made a movie about it with 2169 01:20:08,229 --> 01:20:06,560 denzel washington too it was much bigger 2170 01:20:09,910 --> 01:20:08,239 than that yeah they were shipping they 2171 01:20:11,510 --> 01:20:09,920 were shipping caskets back full of 2172 01:20:13,750 --> 01:20:11,520 heroin right well they were they were 2173 01:20:15,350 --> 01:20:13,760 shipping whole plane loads with nothing 2174 01:20:17,590 --> 01:20:15,360 but heroin 2175 01:20:19,750 --> 01:20:17,600 yeah yeah none of this body bag that was 2176 01:20:21,750 --> 01:20:19,760 the little dealers and [\h__\h] that was 2177 01:20:22,870 --> 01:20:21,760 nothing no they they shipped over 2178 01:20:25,590 --> 01:20:22,880 shiploads 2179 01:20:28,390 --> 01:20:25,600 cargo cargo cargo planes right cargo 2180 01:20:30,229 --> 01:20:28,400 ship has a double hull for safety 2181 01:20:31,910 --> 01:20:30,239 most ships have the double hull for 2182 01:20:33,590 --> 01:20:31,920 safety modern ships you can pack 2183 01:20:35,910 --> 01:20:33,600 whatever you want in there that's how 2184 01:20:38,550 --> 01:20:35,920 onassis reportedly 2185 01:20:40,950 --> 01:20:38,560 uh you know j uh jackie kennedy's 2186 01:20:43,350 --> 01:20:40,960 husband mr o'nasus the shipper brought 2187 01:20:46,070 --> 01:20:43,360 in heroin for joe kennedy 2188 01:20:47,189 --> 01:20:46,080 yeah walter bosley is here senior 2189 01:20:51,590 --> 01:20:47,199 mentioned 2190 01:20:54,390 --> 01:20:51,600 he used you know some of the stuff from 2191 01:20:56,149 --> 01:20:54,400 your book about the about the 1890s 2192 01:20:58,470 --> 01:20:56,159 airship mystery so shout out to walter 2193 01:21:01,030 --> 01:20:58,480 bosley from the walter bosley channel 2194 01:21:03,189 --> 01:21:01,040 it's good to see you both here yeah 2195 01:21:04,950 --> 01:21:03,199 yeah he's he's he's a you know walter's 2196 01:21:07,110 --> 01:21:04,960 a brilliant guy i mean that that story 2197 01:21:08,550 --> 01:21:07,120 he dug out i don't think anyone else in 2198 01:21:11,510 --> 01:21:08,560 the world could have done it i mean 2199 01:21:13,669 --> 01:21:11,520 busby was good with the 18 with a book 2200 01:21:16,629 --> 01:21:13,679 another guy wrote a book but but bosley 2201 01:21:19,430 --> 01:21:16,639 put it all together with the occult 2202 01:21:21,030 --> 01:21:19,440 and it made sense it takes some brain 2203 01:21:22,149 --> 01:21:21,040 power i had to read a couple of them 2204 01:21:23,990 --> 01:21:22,159 twice 2205 01:21:25,750 --> 01:21:24,000 but i got it 2206 01:21:27,830 --> 01:21:25,760 i think i need to read some of his books 2207 01:21:30,149 --> 01:21:27,840 three times to truly get it yeah i 2208 01:21:31,430 --> 01:21:30,159 recommend very dense 2209 01:21:33,430 --> 01:21:31,440 they're good but 2210 01:21:35,669 --> 01:21:33,440 yeah peter lavender the ss and the 2211 01:21:38,390 --> 01:21:35,679 occult i mean those are all good and 2212 01:21:40,149 --> 01:21:38,400 they make sense but it only makes sense 2213 01:21:41,750 --> 01:21:40,159 to people if you read all the books and 2214 01:21:43,510 --> 01:21:41,760 then do a lot of deep thinking and 2215 01:21:45,510 --> 01:21:43,520 consider the big picture otherwise it 2216 01:21:48,229 --> 01:21:45,520 just sounds like nazi ufos on the moon 2217 01:21:48,870 --> 01:21:48,239 and you know babylon you know mystics 2218 01:21:51,430 --> 01:21:48,880 and 2219 01:21:52,470 --> 01:21:51,440 satanists it just sounds like hollywood 2220 01:21:54,310 --> 01:21:52,480 you know 2221 01:21:56,229 --> 01:21:54,320 iron sky movies 2222 01:21:59,270 --> 01:21:56,239 uh which they paired i enjoyed that 2223 01:22:02,070 --> 01:21:59,280 though i did enjoy making three movies 2224 01:22:03,270 --> 01:22:02,080 what are they trying to tell us 2225 01:22:05,110 --> 01:22:03,280 you know yeah maybe there's a little 2226 01:22:06,950 --> 01:22:05,120 truth in that for hollywood 2227 01:22:09,430 --> 01:22:06,960 yeah star wars star trek what the [\h__\h] 2228 01:22:11,030 --> 01:22:09,440 it's all fascism in space 2229 01:22:12,470 --> 01:22:11,040 i mean what are they trying to tell us i 2230 01:22:15,350 --> 01:22:12,480 wonder 2231 01:22:16,149 --> 01:22:15,360 is some of that true out there 2232 01:22:22,149 --> 01:22:16,159 you know 2233 01:22:26,550 --> 01:22:22,159 i've heard that so many different times 2234 01:22:30,550 --> 01:22:28,470 yeah because they really had been 2235 01:22:32,870 --> 01:22:30,560 genocided the german people german 2236 01:22:35,189 --> 01:22:32,880 germanic peoples the visigoths you know 2237 01:22:37,430 --> 01:22:35,199 and everybody had been 2238 01:22:39,669 --> 01:22:37,440 attempted genocide on them by the romans 2239 01:22:43,189 --> 01:22:39,679 and everyone else throughout history and 2240 01:22:44,790 --> 01:22:43,199 they finally had enough and and 2241 01:22:46,950 --> 01:22:44,800 you're like [\h__\h] they really went after 2242 01:22:48,629 --> 01:22:46,960 the germans why 2243 01:22:50,229 --> 01:22:48,639 why 2244 01:22:52,470 --> 01:22:50,239 you know someone asked in the live chat 2245 01:22:54,709 --> 01:22:52,480 earlier and i know that you're like a 2246 01:22:56,709 --> 01:22:54,719 walking encyclopedia of world war ii 2247 01:22:58,310 --> 01:22:56,719 history and knowledge and i wanted to 2248 01:23:00,709 --> 01:22:58,320 pick your brain about this 2249 01:23:02,950 --> 01:23:00,719 the various theories that 2250 01:23:05,590 --> 01:23:02,960 much of the the german high command 2251 01:23:07,830 --> 01:23:05,600 escaped to argentina and that's after 2252 01:23:11,110 --> 01:23:07,840 that there was no flaps 2253 01:23:13,510 --> 01:23:11,120 nazi command yeah and someone asked did 2254 01:23:15,669 --> 01:23:13,520 you believe that hitler actually escaped 2255 01:23:17,270 --> 01:23:15,679 to argentina 2256 01:23:19,510 --> 01:23:17,280 because there's a lot of conspiracies 2257 01:23:21,189 --> 01:23:19,520 about that and you know i know they dna 2258 01:23:23,430 --> 01:23:21,199 tested what they thought was hitler's 2259 01:23:26,550 --> 01:23:23,440 body and it turned out to be not hitler 2260 01:23:31,510 --> 01:23:26,560 that piece of skull that the soviets had 2261 01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:34,550 had two and that's confirmed uh you know 2262 01:23:38,870 --> 01:23:36,400 every world leader has a doppelganger i 2263 01:23:40,070 --> 01:23:38,880 got news for you all of them sometimes 2264 01:23:41,669 --> 01:23:40,080 multiples 2265 01:23:43,669 --> 01:23:41,679 that's number one the russians found a 2266 01:23:46,790 --> 01:23:43,679 doppelganger uh burned up and outside 2267 01:23:48,950 --> 01:23:46,800 the bunker um hitler and ava 2268 01:23:51,030 --> 01:23:48,960 either either they willingly left or 2269 01:23:52,950 --> 01:23:51,040 they were drugged 2270 01:23:55,590 --> 01:23:52,960 and taken out of there because hitler 2271 01:23:59,350 --> 01:23:55,600 was worthless to the german and the nazi 2272 01:24:00,390 --> 01:23:59,360 party at that time except as 2273 01:24:02,870 --> 01:24:00,400 sorry 2274 01:24:05,110 --> 01:24:02,880 as a symbol 2275 01:24:07,830 --> 01:24:05,120 and so he was a powerful symbol so if 2276 01:24:09,830 --> 01:24:07,840 you drag him even a dead body you bury 2277 01:24:11,990 --> 01:24:09,840 him in argentina and you make a shrine 2278 01:24:14,870 --> 01:24:12,000 which is a a story 2279 01:24:17,510 --> 01:24:14,880 that's a very powerful motivator for for 2280 01:24:19,750 --> 01:24:17,520 the neo-nazis in south america which 2281 01:24:22,390 --> 01:24:19,760 murdered him he knew there were many and 2282 01:24:25,270 --> 01:24:22,400 so and they migrated to america and nasa 2283 01:24:27,270 --> 01:24:25,280 and everything uh project paper clip 2284 01:24:29,510 --> 01:24:27,280 if he did get out alive you have to 2285 01:24:33,350 --> 01:24:29,520 remember hitler was a sick man he had 2286 01:24:35,669 --> 01:24:33,360 been on a cocktail of heroin belladonna 2287 01:24:37,990 --> 01:24:35,679 methamphetamines amphetamines and other 2288 01:24:41,350 --> 01:24:38,000 other big on meth 2289 01:24:43,189 --> 01:24:41,360 from dr morell his doctor feelgood for 2290 01:24:45,510 --> 01:24:43,199 a long time 2291 01:24:47,750 --> 01:24:45,520 and his hand shook either from the drugs 2292 01:24:49,990 --> 01:24:47,760 or he might have had parkinson's 2293 01:24:51,350 --> 01:24:50,000 um by all accounts the last film when 2294 01:24:53,030 --> 01:24:51,360 he's shaking the hands of the hitler 2295 01:24:55,510 --> 01:24:53,040 youth outside the bunker i've seen that 2296 01:24:58,070 --> 01:24:55,520 many times yeah he looked a mess 2297 01:25:00,310 --> 01:24:58,080 ava might have survived longer 2298 01:25:02,229 --> 01:25:00,320 i don't know either he died in transit 2299 01:25:04,310 --> 01:25:02,239 or they he lived for a year or two and 2300 01:25:06,629 --> 01:25:04,320 then died they buried him in argentina 2301 01:25:10,229 --> 01:25:06,639 somewhere who cares 2302 01:25:12,310 --> 01:25:10,239 that's not important 2303 01:25:14,470 --> 01:25:12,320 the important thing is project paperclip 2304 01:25:17,750 --> 01:25:14,480 and where all the ex-nazi engineers and 2305 01:25:19,510 --> 01:25:17,760 physicists and and bureaucrats went 2306 01:25:22,070 --> 01:25:19,520 and my grandfather paul millen in the 2307 01:25:24,390 --> 01:25:22,080 oss in patton you know he said he saw a 2308 01:25:25,750 --> 01:25:24,400 disc shaped german aircraft and a hangar 2309 01:25:27,750 --> 01:25:25,760 and he said this is your grandfather 2310 01:25:29,030 --> 01:25:27,760 yeah i love that story your father was 2311 01:25:33,510 --> 01:25:29,040 your grandfather 2312 01:25:35,590 --> 01:25:33,520 russian flying saucer in an aircraft 2313 01:25:37,110 --> 01:25:35,600 german a german i'm sorry 2314 01:25:39,030 --> 01:25:37,120 disc shaped 2315 01:25:40,790 --> 01:25:39,040 yeah he didn't say you know anything but 2316 01:25:43,350 --> 01:25:40,800 he said it was very large and he said it 2317 01:25:45,350 --> 01:25:43,360 was not powered by german uh bmw or 2318 01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:45,360 errado jet engines 2319 01:25:48,709 --> 01:25:47,040 and because i asked him even as a 2320 01:25:50,870 --> 01:25:48,719 college student i knew about the flugel 2321 01:25:53,830 --> 01:25:50,880 rat they put jet engines in a circle and 2322 01:25:56,070 --> 01:25:53,840 it didn't work of course stupid idea but 2323 01:25:57,350 --> 01:25:56,080 they didn't know that until you try it 2324 01:25:59,910 --> 01:25:57,360 and so 2325 01:26:01,430 --> 01:25:59,920 he saw something because he saw v3 and 2326 01:26:03,669 --> 01:26:01,440 he i remember him telling me about 2327 01:26:06,229 --> 01:26:03,679 transistors because i didn't even 2328 01:26:09,270 --> 01:26:06,239 remember that until i heard uh nick cook 2329 01:26:11,510 --> 01:26:09,280 in his book and jp farrell and everyone 2330 01:26:13,669 --> 01:26:11,520 uh say the germans invented transistors 2331 01:26:15,990 --> 01:26:13,679 and i thought [\h__\h] 2332 01:26:17,910 --> 01:26:16,000 that's what my grandfather told me 2333 01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:17,920 and chemical lasers you know i i 2334 01:26:21,830 --> 01:26:19,600 remember him talking about lasers and i 2335 01:26:23,430 --> 01:26:21,840 thought oh i thought didn't we invent 2336 01:26:25,750 --> 01:26:23,440 the lasers like 2337 01:26:27,910 --> 01:26:25,760 in the early 60s no apparently the nazis 2338 01:26:29,510 --> 01:26:27,920 were already transistors they were so 2339 01:26:31,510 --> 01:26:29,520 far ahead of everybody else in 2340 01:26:33,510 --> 01:26:31,520 technology 2341 01:26:36,149 --> 01:26:33,520 and we were 30 olympics they had 2342 01:26:38,629 --> 01:26:36,159 television all over germany well the 2343 01:26:39,910 --> 01:26:38,639 americans invented television first yes 2344 01:26:42,550 --> 01:26:39,920 but they 2345 01:26:44,229 --> 01:26:42,560 perfected it yeah yeah they implemented 2346 01:26:46,229 --> 01:26:44,239 live broadcast first 2347 01:26:48,550 --> 01:26:46,239 we have a great message here for you 2348 01:26:50,390 --> 01:26:48,560 from peter de havilland uh with a kind 2349 01:26:52,709 --> 01:26:50,400 of generous five-pound donation he says 2350 01:26:54,470 --> 01:26:52,719 good evening from london a message for 2351 01:26:56,070 --> 01:26:54,480 john your cousin the late matthew mello 2352 01:26:58,149 --> 01:26:56,080 was an old friend of mine until his own 2353 01:27:00,390 --> 01:26:58,159 time without from 2018. 2354 01:27:03,110 --> 01:27:00,400 yeah there's a wonderful wonderful guy 2355 01:27:04,790 --> 01:27:03,120 he was a you know he died tragically 2356 01:27:07,430 --> 01:27:04,800 i'm sorry to hear that 2357 01:27:09,110 --> 01:27:07,440 yeah that's chris's brother uh i knew 2358 01:27:10,950 --> 01:27:09,120 matthew a little bit better than chris 2359 01:27:12,550 --> 01:27:10,960 and and um 2360 01:27:15,110 --> 01:27:12,560 you know matthew was a great guy he just 2361 01:27:17,750 --> 01:27:15,120 he died early um 2362 01:27:19,510 --> 01:27:17,760 i miss him um 2363 01:27:21,590 --> 01:27:19,520 i'm sorry for your loss 2364 01:27:23,030 --> 01:27:21,600 i i gotta i gotta reconnect with my 2365 01:27:24,470 --> 01:27:23,040 cousins because you remember like when 2366 01:27:26,550 --> 01:27:24,480 you were a little kid your cousins were 2367 01:27:28,070 --> 01:27:26,560 your first best friends right and then 2368 01:27:29,830 --> 01:27:28,080 you get a little older you have your own 2369 01:27:31,590 --> 01:27:29,840 family and you get busy and you just 2370 01:27:33,510 --> 01:27:31,600 don't see them as much 2371 01:27:35,270 --> 01:27:33,520 great great question from pix that i'm 2372 01:27:37,510 --> 01:27:35,280 also interested in hearing your opinions 2373 01:27:39,350 --> 01:27:37,520 on he says please ask john what he 2374 01:27:41,750 --> 01:27:39,360 thinks happened to patton was it just an 2375 01:27:43,350 --> 01:27:41,760 accident or was this was there more to 2376 01:27:50,310 --> 01:27:43,360 it 2377 01:27:52,390 --> 01:27:50,320 grandfather's story and that patton was 2378 01:27:54,229 --> 01:27:52,400 witness to the german wunderwaffe 2379 01:27:56,550 --> 01:27:54,239 technology the rockets the chemical 2380 01:27:59,510 --> 01:27:56,560 lasers the wonder weapons 2381 01:28:02,390 --> 01:27:59,520 gravity the bell the nazi bell um and so 2382 01:28:04,470 --> 01:28:02,400 he knew that that's why ike directed him 2383 01:28:06,390 --> 01:28:04,480 towards pilsen because i you know patton 2384 01:28:10,229 --> 01:28:06,400 wanted to go to berlin and end the war 2385 01:28:13,350 --> 01:28:10,239 and they were like no we need you to go 2386 01:28:14,470 --> 01:28:13,360 to pilsen and secure the sse4 division 2387 01:28:16,149 --> 01:28:14,480 which he did 2388 01:28:17,510 --> 01:28:16,159 and my grandfather knew patton well they 2389 01:28:19,750 --> 01:28:17,520 fox hunted together with general 2390 01:28:21,669 --> 01:28:19,760 marshall they were all chummy well bill 2391 01:28:23,910 --> 01:28:21,679 donovan that's how he got to know while 2392 01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:23,920 bill and join the oss is through his fox 2393 01:28:27,189 --> 01:28:25,920 hunting buzzy buddies 2394 01:28:29,510 --> 01:28:27,199 and so 2395 01:28:31,350 --> 01:28:29,520 pat knew the truth of the german 2396 01:28:33,350 --> 01:28:31,360 bundevoffer and he knew that it was 2397 01:28:36,950 --> 01:28:33,360 being transferred i think they flew it 2398 01:28:40,310 --> 01:28:36,960 out of pilsen and dc-4s and dc sixes 2399 01:28:41,750 --> 01:28:40,320 um i remember the dc-6 was 2400 01:28:43,270 --> 01:28:41,760 online at that time but they were 2401 01:28:44,470 --> 01:28:43,280 long-range aircraft they refilled in 2402 01:28:46,149 --> 01:28:44,480 iceland 2403 01:28:47,669 --> 01:28:46,159 a big deal on the east coast and they 2404 01:28:50,070 --> 01:28:47,679 brought it out by train and ship you 2405 01:28:51,750 --> 01:28:50,080 know the bell and all the mature 2406 01:28:53,590 --> 01:28:51,760 non-linear german physics so you think 2407 01:28:55,270 --> 01:28:53,600 that we got it all oh we got it we 2408 01:28:57,189 --> 01:28:55,280 recovered all the high altitude 2409 01:28:59,270 --> 01:28:57,199 experiments on the jews and the russians 2410 01:29:01,030 --> 01:28:59,280 and the camps all that i know i knew 2411 01:29:02,390 --> 01:29:01,040 about that yeah i knew about those space 2412 01:29:04,310 --> 01:29:02,400 experiments that they were trying to get 2413 01:29:06,709 --> 01:29:04,320 oh that genetic 2414 01:29:09,669 --> 01:29:06,719 stuff that mengele was doing the rumor 2415 01:29:12,149 --> 01:29:09,679 is we got it all and i bet you we did 2416 01:29:14,790 --> 01:29:12,159 because america people forget america 2417 01:29:17,350 --> 01:29:14,800 was in to euthanasia 2418 01:29:19,189 --> 01:29:17,360 and eugenics 2419 01:29:21,110 --> 01:29:19,199 well before the nazis were 2420 01:29:24,149 --> 01:29:21,120 yeah that's a scary subject it's a sad 2421 01:29:26,390 --> 01:29:24,159 part of america history it's disgusting 2422 01:29:28,550 --> 01:29:26,400 but uh not euthanasia but and you're and 2423 01:29:30,790 --> 01:29:28,560 so your dad your dad knew patton too 2424 01:29:32,470 --> 01:29:30,800 then right is that what you said i know 2425 01:29:34,790 --> 01:29:32,480 you or is your grandma my dad father 2426 01:29:36,629 --> 01:29:34,800 grandfather did and so jeez your whole 2427 01:29:38,629 --> 01:29:36,639 family has been like 2428 01:29:41,430 --> 01:29:38,639 i'm to write a time travel novel about 2429 01:29:42,790 --> 01:29:41,440 your family because at all these girls 2430 01:29:45,510 --> 01:29:42,800 no one wouldn't believe it i swear to 2431 01:29:47,669 --> 01:29:45,520 god but no but like think about this at 2432 01:29:49,030 --> 01:29:47,679 all these weird crossroads of history 2433 01:29:51,590 --> 01:29:49,040 your family has been there your 2434 01:29:53,030 --> 01:29:51,600 grandfather and patton your father and 2435 01:29:54,629 --> 01:29:53,040 richard nixon 2436 01:29:57,270 --> 01:29:54,639 right your best friend all of this 2437 01:29:59,110 --> 01:29:57,280 strange stuff and i wanted to know if 2438 01:30:01,350 --> 01:29:59,120 you could go into a little more detail 2439 01:30:03,510 --> 01:30:01,360 about what your father told you about 2440 01:30:05,270 --> 01:30:03,520 ufos because i know that 2441 01:30:07,189 --> 01:30:05,280 let me answer oh yeah let me finish yeah 2442 01:30:08,950 --> 01:30:07,199 the patent first yeah patton knew 2443 01:30:11,030 --> 01:30:08,960 everything 2444 01:30:13,990 --> 01:30:11,040 the war remember patton believed in 2445 01:30:16,229 --> 01:30:14,000 reincarnation he knew about the occult 2446 01:30:18,229 --> 01:30:16,239 they never talk about that in movies and 2447 01:30:20,950 --> 01:30:18,239 and but patton 2448 01:30:23,110 --> 01:30:20,960 was into theosophy and manly p hall he 2449 01:30:25,189 --> 01:30:23,120 was out there in pasadena california 2450 01:30:27,189 --> 01:30:25,199 where all that was happening you know uh 2451 01:30:29,590 --> 01:30:27,199 the jack parsons and stuff 2452 01:30:31,510 --> 01:30:29,600 he was sort of around there he lived not 2453 01:30:33,590 --> 01:30:31,520 far from jack parks as general patton 2454 01:30:34,470 --> 01:30:33,600 did because my girlfriend in college had 2455 01:30:36,390 --> 01:30:34,480 a house 2456 01:30:38,550 --> 01:30:36,400 in in out there and we used to go by 2457 01:30:39,669 --> 01:30:38,560 patton's house all the time so patton 2458 01:30:41,750 --> 01:30:39,679 knew 2459 01:30:43,669 --> 01:30:41,760 uh and believed more importantly believe 2460 01:30:46,229 --> 01:30:43,679 the true history of the world atlantis 2461 01:30:48,070 --> 01:30:46,239 lemuria uh you know 2462 01:30:50,390 --> 01:30:48,080 the sons of bull belial he knew all that 2463 01:30:51,990 --> 01:30:50,400 history because he was he knew the truth 2464 01:30:54,390 --> 01:30:52,000 of the world this is why he pushed his 2465 01:30:56,470 --> 01:30:54,400 troops so hard because even though he 2466 01:30:58,149 --> 01:30:56,480 law had high casualties he knew that 2467 01:31:00,470 --> 01:30:58,159 death was an illusion 2468 01:31:04,149 --> 01:31:00,480 and then all those young boys whom he 2469 01:31:06,310 --> 01:31:04,159 cared about would just reincarnate 2470 01:31:09,270 --> 01:31:06,320 their death that's interesting the 2471 01:31:11,030 --> 01:31:09,280 german high command only feared patton 2472 01:31:12,470 --> 01:31:11,040 they didn't heard that 2473 01:31:14,629 --> 01:31:12,480 i've heard that mention in many books 2474 01:31:16,470 --> 01:31:14,639 that they were paranoid about patton 2475 01:31:17,910 --> 01:31:16,480 common for them and they weren't so 2476 01:31:19,669 --> 01:31:17,920 concerned with a lot of the other 2477 01:31:21,910 --> 01:31:19,679 generals no 2478 01:31:24,310 --> 01:31:21,920 that's interesting and the probably the 2479 01:31:25,750 --> 01:31:24,320 prussian generals who were cultists knew 2480 01:31:27,669 --> 01:31:25,760 he was one of them 2481 01:31:29,430 --> 01:31:27,679 and they were like oh we've got a 2482 01:31:31,270 --> 01:31:29,440 problem with this guy he knows the truth 2483 01:31:32,709 --> 01:31:31,280 of the world and how the universe works 2484 01:31:33,750 --> 01:31:32,719 and he's going to push his troops to the 2485 01:31:35,110 --> 01:31:33,760 max 2486 01:31:37,430 --> 01:31:35,120 because he knows they'll just 2487 01:31:40,629 --> 01:31:37,440 reincarnate their death is an illusion 2488 01:31:41,750 --> 01:31:40,639 and so pat knew a [\h__\h] ton 2489 01:31:44,149 --> 01:31:41,760 and i think 2490 01:31:45,750 --> 01:31:44,159 probably he was assassinated although it 2491 01:31:47,669 --> 01:31:45,760 was a very weird 2492 01:31:49,830 --> 01:31:47,679 accident 2493 01:31:51,430 --> 01:31:49,840 it didn't kill him 2494 01:31:53,669 --> 01:31:51,440 you know right away it was a long 2495 01:31:56,149 --> 01:31:53,679 painful death 2496 01:31:58,070 --> 01:31:56,159 maybe he was killed or maybe it was just 2497 01:31:59,590 --> 01:31:58,080 an accident but whatever happened you 2498 01:32:01,669 --> 01:31:59,600 know he he 2499 01:32:04,149 --> 01:32:01,679 the result was done he was a liability 2500 01:32:05,750 --> 01:32:04,159 he had a big mouth like i do 2501 01:32:06,950 --> 01:32:05,760 um he just 2502 01:32:09,350 --> 01:32:06,960 he spoke 2503 01:32:11,030 --> 01:32:09,360 it was quite a character i i love that 2504 01:32:12,790 --> 01:32:11,040 movie with uh yeah 2505 01:32:15,270 --> 01:32:12,800 what is it after that cameron the actor 2506 01:32:17,750 --> 01:32:15,280 yeah george c scott 2507 01:32:19,189 --> 01:32:17,760 my dad loved world war ii movies that's 2508 01:32:20,950 --> 01:32:19,199 one of the reasons john that i'm so 2509 01:32:24,070 --> 01:32:20,960 interested in world war ii because when 2510 01:32:26,229 --> 01:32:24,080 i was a child my father had all of these 2511 01:32:28,550 --> 01:32:26,239 he used to tape these all these war 2512 01:32:30,310 --> 01:32:28,560 movies off of the television and dump 2513 01:32:32,390 --> 01:32:30,320 out the commercials and then on a 2514 01:32:34,229 --> 01:32:32,400 saturday night he would sit and watch 18 2515 01:32:36,470 --> 01:32:34,239 hours of world war ii movies and i would 2516 01:32:38,950 --> 01:32:36,480 watch his stuff with them you know and 2517 01:32:40,310 --> 01:32:38,960 lord leaders chris plaid this is another 2518 01:32:42,870 --> 01:32:40,320 good one wants to know your opinion 2519 01:32:44,149 --> 01:32:42,880 about gary mckinnon because he loves the 2520 01:32:46,070 --> 01:32:44,159 story and thank you for your support 2521 01:32:48,310 --> 01:32:46,080 lord ludacris platt and you're familiar 2522 01:32:50,550 --> 01:32:48,320 with that the the english guy 2523 01:32:53,990 --> 01:32:50,560 who claimed to hack into the nasa 2524 01:32:55,350 --> 01:32:54,000 computers and find souls 2525 01:32:57,110 --> 01:32:55,360 you're right i'm sorry 2526 01:32:59,350 --> 01:32:57,120 what's your opinion of that i find him 2527 01:33:01,590 --> 01:32:59,360 to be credible i mean yeah i do too 2528 01:33:03,189 --> 01:33:01,600 because you know in an interview tv 2529 01:33:05,350 --> 01:33:03,199 interview he said look 2530 01:33:07,910 --> 01:33:05,360 i'm just a hacker you know i don't know 2531 01:33:09,189 --> 01:33:07,920 anything about ufos or the space or care 2532 01:33:11,110 --> 01:33:09,199 yeah everybody just happened to find it 2533 01:33:13,110 --> 01:33:11,120 that's like there but this is what i 2534 01:33:13,990 --> 01:33:13,120 found and i i think that makes him very 2535 01:33:16,149 --> 01:33:14,000 credible 2536 01:33:18,470 --> 01:33:16,159 um you know it's i think it's we're in 2537 01:33:21,110 --> 01:33:18,480 an age where it's obvious we've got some 2538 01:33:22,790 --> 01:33:21,120 presence in space we have had since the 2539 01:33:25,270 --> 01:33:22,800 60s or 2540 01:33:27,510 --> 01:33:25,280 some accounts the late 50s nsa were on 2541 01:33:29,830 --> 01:33:27,520 the moon with the germans i don't know 2542 01:33:31,669 --> 01:33:29,840 but that's a story and i think we need 2543 01:33:33,910 --> 01:33:31,679 to come to grips with that that it you 2544 01:33:37,030 --> 01:33:33,920 know we have been out in space how big 2545 01:33:38,390 --> 01:33:37,040 it is you know i don't know 2546 01:33:39,750 --> 01:33:38,400 time will have to 2547 01:33:42,470 --> 01:33:39,760 tell us that 2548 01:33:45,030 --> 01:33:42,480 but i think i i will say this the ssp 2549 01:33:46,629 --> 01:33:45,040 vets they have a point they have a few 2550 01:33:49,030 --> 01:33:46,639 points that are 2551 01:33:50,390 --> 01:33:49,040 worthy of consideration and that is a 2552 01:33:53,510 --> 01:33:50,400 lot of their stories 2553 01:33:56,470 --> 01:33:53,520 are very very complicated and complex 2554 01:33:58,790 --> 01:33:56,480 and they all cross pollinate 2555 01:34:00,390 --> 01:33:58,800 now that's not easy to do a group of 2556 01:34:02,149 --> 01:34:00,400 people just didn't get it together in 2557 01:34:03,270 --> 01:34:02,159 california and say you know and a lot of 2558 01:34:04,870 --> 01:34:03,280 them have 2559 01:34:06,550 --> 01:34:04,880 you know they knock heads you know they 2560 01:34:08,709 --> 01:34:06,560 have problems 2561 01:34:11,030 --> 01:34:08,719 that's almost impossible to do in my 2562 01:34:12,310 --> 01:34:11,040 book is to fake that whole 2563 01:34:14,550 --> 01:34:12,320 narrative 2564 01:34:16,229 --> 01:34:14,560 that's it's just impossible you can't do 2565 01:34:17,990 --> 01:34:16,239 it now everything is possible in the 2566 01:34:21,030 --> 01:34:18,000 universe i understand that but it would 2567 01:34:22,870 --> 01:34:21,040 be extremely difficult and to what end 2568 01:34:24,470 --> 01:34:22,880 none of them are making money you know i 2569 01:34:26,149 --> 01:34:24,480 talk to a few of them i think they're 2570 01:34:27,750 --> 01:34:26,159 very smart and interesting people 2571 01:34:30,070 --> 01:34:27,760 they're not making money they're 2572 01:34:31,910 --> 01:34:30,080 poor some of them some of them do some 2573 01:34:34,709 --> 01:34:31,920 of them the ones that reach the top tier 2574 01:34:36,229 --> 01:34:34,719 well it's not very good and a few others 2575 01:34:38,870 --> 01:34:36,239 some of those but you know because 2576 01:34:40,550 --> 01:34:38,880 they're not credible yeah 2577 01:34:41,830 --> 01:34:40,560 but you know and they have a problem 2578 01:34:44,390 --> 01:34:41,840 with him too 2579 01:34:46,390 --> 01:34:44,400 by and large but you know i'm not gonna 2580 01:34:47,189 --> 01:34:46,400 bash anyone because it's just not my 2581 01:34:49,910 --> 01:34:47,199 thing 2582 01:34:51,990 --> 01:34:49,920 per se but 2583 01:34:53,750 --> 01:34:52,000 you know the thing is 2584 01:34:56,149 --> 01:34:53,760 in my view we have to start considering 2585 01:34:57,350 --> 01:34:56,159 the wider picture on everything 2586 01:35:01,030 --> 01:34:57,360 and 2587 01:35:03,750 --> 01:35:01,040 to have to deal with what other people 2588 01:35:06,390 --> 01:35:03,760 say even though they don't like 2589 01:35:07,750 --> 01:35:06,400 what other people say or even believe it 2590 01:35:10,470 --> 01:35:07,760 but 2591 01:35:13,030 --> 01:35:10,480 you know you have to remember 2592 01:35:16,070 --> 01:35:13,040 35 years ago you know 2593 01:35:18,310 --> 01:35:16,080 1980s and i was barely reading of a ufo 2594 01:35:19,990 --> 01:35:18,320 book or two and i would you know 2595 01:35:21,990 --> 01:35:20,000 watch a film or something 2596 01:35:23,590 --> 01:35:22,000 if you believed in the gray aliens 2597 01:35:27,270 --> 01:35:23,600 abducting humans 2598 01:35:28,950 --> 01:35:27,280 you were a fringe nut job crazy 2599 01:35:31,910 --> 01:35:28,960 you're an idiot 2600 01:35:33,430 --> 01:35:31,920 now that's ufo 101 2601 01:35:34,629 --> 01:35:33,440 you know and 2602 01:35:36,149 --> 01:35:34,639 you know 2603 01:35:38,310 --> 01:35:36,159 now they're calling all these new people 2604 01:35:40,390 --> 01:35:38,320 crazy you know their fringe and their 2605 01:35:42,550 --> 01:35:40,400 fringe in the disclosure movement which 2606 01:35:44,070 --> 01:35:42,560 is all fringe you know it's ridiculous 2607 01:35:46,070 --> 01:35:44,080 you know it's 2608 01:35:47,669 --> 01:35:46,080 25 years ago they were calling dolan and 2609 01:35:49,350 --> 01:35:47,679 greer and everyone they were all those 2610 01:35:51,430 --> 01:35:49,360 guys are nuts 2611 01:35:52,950 --> 01:35:51,440 you know and now they're like you know 2612 01:35:54,550 --> 01:35:52,960 conservative 2613 01:35:55,750 --> 01:35:54,560 they are yeah compared to some of the 2614 01:35:57,669 --> 01:35:55,760 other out 2615 01:36:00,790 --> 01:35:57,679 now and it's like you see you have to 2616 01:36:02,149 --> 01:36:00,800 see history over a long period of time 2617 01:36:04,550 --> 01:36:02,159 you know and that's you know older 2618 01:36:07,270 --> 01:36:04,560 people like me we've seen this [\h__\h] 2619 01:36:10,149 --> 01:36:07,280 before i've seen this project blue book 2620 01:36:13,750 --> 01:36:10,159 uh [\h__\h] uap task force you know 2621 01:36:14,709 --> 01:36:13,760 pentagon uap office [\h__\h] before 2622 01:36:16,629 --> 01:36:14,719 they travel 2623 01:36:18,310 --> 01:36:16,639 didn't work out so well for disclosure 2624 01:36:21,350 --> 01:36:18,320 never worked out 2625 01:36:22,470 --> 01:36:21,360 they're delaying the inevitable stephen 2626 01:36:25,590 --> 01:36:22,480 they're just i think you're right 2627 01:36:28,070 --> 01:36:25,600 delaying tactics scorched earth policy 2628 01:36:30,470 --> 01:36:28,080 get the disclosure movement infighting 2629 01:36:32,790 --> 01:36:30,480 bitterly you know leak out [\h__\h] you 2630 01:36:34,470 --> 01:36:32,800 know it's the same old same old 2631 01:36:37,350 --> 01:36:34,480 intel war 2632 01:36:39,109 --> 01:36:37,360 and but for some reason they have to 2633 01:36:39,990 --> 01:36:39,119 start disclosing stuff otherwise they 2634 01:36:41,109 --> 01:36:40,000 would have 2635 01:36:42,229 --> 01:36:41,119 none of this would be happening they 2636 01:36:44,310 --> 01:36:42,239 would have said that they would have 2637 01:36:45,669 --> 01:36:44,320 come alive and the nimitz thing would 2638 01:36:48,070 --> 01:36:45,679 never have come out 2639 01:36:50,149 --> 01:36:48,080 so they're getting pressure internally 2640 01:36:53,270 --> 01:36:50,159 to do something 2641 01:36:54,149 --> 01:36:53,280 though it's next to nothing what they're 2642 01:36:55,510 --> 01:36:54,159 doing 2643 01:36:58,390 --> 01:36:55,520 drip drip trip 2644 01:37:00,470 --> 01:36:58,400 is it's still the subject and so here's 2645 01:37:03,270 --> 01:37:00,480 another great question okay 2646 01:37:04,950 --> 01:37:03,280 and i'm sorry to be like i don't mean to 2647 01:37:06,709 --> 01:37:04,960 rush you but there are so many great 2648 01:37:09,109 --> 01:37:06,719 questions in the live chat and you're 2649 01:37:11,189 --> 01:37:09,119 like a walking encyclopedia of this 2650 01:37:13,189 --> 01:37:11,199 stuff so we want to take our best 2651 01:37:15,510 --> 01:37:13,199 kids beware 2652 01:37:17,270 --> 01:37:15,520 old man so properly paranoid with a kind 2653 01:37:19,109 --> 01:37:17,280 of generous 5 super chat thank you for 2654 01:37:22,149 --> 01:37:19,119 your kindness and generosity and support 2655 01:37:24,470 --> 01:37:22,159 of the show mr warner do you think uh 2656 01:37:26,870 --> 01:37:24,480 what do you think happened to dr heinz 2657 01:37:28,950 --> 01:37:26,880 uh hans kammler do you think he 2658 01:37:32,390 --> 01:37:28,960 supervised the production of the glock 2659 01:37:34,310 --> 01:37:32,400 or the bell the famous nazi belt project 2660 01:37:36,470 --> 01:37:34,320 now i've just read the new book on hans 2661 01:37:38,470 --> 01:37:36,480 calmer i just i chatted with the authors 2662 01:37:40,629 --> 01:37:38,480 over the email for months and they did a 2663 01:37:41,830 --> 01:37:40,639 very good job with it i figured that you 2664 01:37:43,590 --> 01:37:41,840 know it 2665 01:37:45,430 --> 01:37:43,600 has this picture on the cover of the 2666 01:37:48,070 --> 01:37:45,440 book you can look it up 2667 01:37:50,149 --> 01:37:48,080 and um i've studied everything you know 2668 01:37:52,629 --> 01:37:50,159 he has a cameo in my new book lion tiger 2669 01:37:55,830 --> 01:37:52,639 bear and the next book is going to be 2670 01:37:56,709 --> 01:37:55,840 mostly about hans connor 2671 01:37:58,950 --> 01:37:56,719 um 2672 01:38:00,790 --> 01:37:58,960 you know he he's he's got 10 different 2673 01:38:03,430 --> 01:38:00,800 deaths he was cited at 10 different 2674 01:38:05,270 --> 01:38:03,440 places after the war you know he he was 2675 01:38:08,070 --> 01:38:05,280 scrubbed from history 2676 01:38:10,629 --> 01:38:08,080 uh very well i think probably most 2677 01:38:11,910 --> 01:38:10,639 likely uh he got on one of those planes 2678 01:38:14,070 --> 01:38:11,920 and pilsen 2679 01:38:15,750 --> 01:38:14,080 with the army g2 and the oss people 2680 01:38:17,270 --> 01:38:15,760 probably sat next to my grandfather and 2681 01:38:21,189 --> 01:38:17,280 had a martini 2682 01:38:23,830 --> 01:38:21,199 um and flew to the united states 2683 01:38:25,990 --> 01:38:23,840 or he went down to bavaria and joined 2684 01:38:27,830 --> 01:38:26,000 the rat line through the vatican through 2685 01:38:30,229 --> 01:38:27,840 you know spain and portugal and got on a 2686 01:38:33,030 --> 01:38:30,239 u-boat and went to argentina 2687 01:38:35,270 --> 01:38:33,040 if he was in argentina he definitely 2688 01:38:37,430 --> 01:38:35,280 there are several stories that you know 2689 01:38:40,229 --> 01:38:37,440 unproven but the stories are he was seen 2690 01:38:43,030 --> 01:38:40,239 at nasa in the early 60s with debuss and 2691 01:38:46,470 --> 01:38:43,040 dornberger and von braun and others 2692 01:38:48,870 --> 01:38:46,480 um i think that's highly likely because 2693 01:38:50,790 --> 01:38:48,880 uh you know martin borman had tons of 2694 01:38:52,950 --> 01:38:50,800 nazi treasure you know trillions in 2695 01:38:56,229 --> 01:38:52,960 today's money they had it at banco 2696 01:38:58,550 --> 01:38:56,239 tornquest in in argentina and of course 2697 01:39:01,350 --> 01:38:58,560 juan peron and you know 2698 01:39:02,470 --> 01:39:01,360 ava peron they got their cut of that you 2699 01:39:04,709 --> 01:39:02,480 know 2700 01:39:06,070 --> 01:39:04,719 and uh there's still tons of nancy loot 2701 01:39:08,790 --> 01:39:06,080 probably down there and also in 2702 01:39:10,790 --> 01:39:08,800 switzerland with the octagon group 2703 01:39:13,669 --> 01:39:10,800 uh which is hard to find any information 2704 01:39:16,070 --> 01:39:13,679 on they spell it with an o octogon 2705 01:39:18,790 --> 01:39:16,080 it's a templar cross you connect it and 2706 01:39:20,229 --> 01:39:18,800 it's an octagon but um 2707 01:39:21,830 --> 01:39:20,239 that's where all you know the nazis 2708 01:39:24,229 --> 01:39:21,840 found you know 2709 01:39:26,229 --> 01:39:24,239 the anonymity found anarchy treasures 2710 01:39:28,149 --> 01:39:26,239 the holy grail perhaps with otto 2711 01:39:29,590 --> 01:39:28,159 scorseni in in 2712 01:39:30,470 --> 01:39:29,600 southern france 2713 01:39:33,189 --> 01:39:30,480 uh 2714 01:39:35,510 --> 01:39:33,199 you know all the cathar 2715 01:39:36,629 --> 01:39:35,520 knights templar cathart you know those 2716 01:39:39,189 --> 01:39:36,639 kind of 2717 01:39:41,109 --> 01:39:39,199 stashes you know they had tons of it and 2718 01:39:43,430 --> 01:39:41,119 it's still circulating the world a lot 2719 01:39:44,870 --> 01:39:43,440 of it's in the new us everyone's like oh 2720 01:39:46,870 --> 01:39:44,880 where's all that missing artwork it's 2721 01:39:49,750 --> 01:39:46,880 like well go look at some russian 2722 01:39:51,430 --> 01:39:49,760 dacha's and and probably some homes of 2723 01:39:53,830 --> 01:39:51,440 you know committee of 300 families 2724 01:39:55,430 --> 01:39:53,840 you'll find a lot of that missing art 2725 01:39:56,950 --> 01:39:55,440 you know it's all around the world with 2726 01:39:58,310 --> 01:39:56,960 rich people you know 2727 01:40:00,390 --> 01:39:58,320 rich people got to hang it in their 2728 01:40:02,070 --> 01:40:00,400 living room right it's a priceless work 2729 01:40:03,990 --> 01:40:02,080 of art i've never seen anything and i'm 2730 01:40:05,350 --> 01:40:04,000 not an art expert to see that something 2731 01:40:08,149 --> 01:40:05,360 isn't it interesting though that the 2732 01:40:09,910 --> 01:40:08,159 nazis stole so much of the art and 2733 01:40:11,910 --> 01:40:09,920 culture and so little of it was 2734 01:40:13,910 --> 01:40:11,920 recovered after the war so it's all got 2735 01:40:16,149 --> 01:40:13,920 to be somewhere it's all gone 2736 01:40:18,229 --> 01:40:16,159 it's everywhere steven um 2737 01:40:20,550 --> 01:40:18,239 you know that that the blacks you know 2738 01:40:22,709 --> 01:40:20,560 the deep state black slush fund was 2739 01:40:25,510 --> 01:40:22,719 started with you know money from 2740 01:40:29,430 --> 01:40:25,520 rockefeller my grandfather for sure and 2741 01:40:32,149 --> 01:40:29,440 other other guys and some nazi money 2742 01:40:34,310 --> 01:40:32,159 now they've been able to do big bank 2743 01:40:37,109 --> 01:40:34,320 fraud most likely big bank fraud and 2744 01:40:38,870 --> 01:40:37,119 other things funding streams drugs 2745 01:40:41,430 --> 01:40:38,880 horrible things to to 2746 01:40:44,070 --> 01:40:41,440 supplement that but i bet they have 2747 01:40:46,310 --> 01:40:44,080 unlimited trillions in the deep state 2748 01:40:49,030 --> 01:40:46,320 money is not the problem money is not 2749 01:40:51,430 --> 01:40:49,040 the issue catherine austin fitz dug it 2750 01:40:52,629 --> 01:40:51,440 all out but i assure you 2751 01:40:54,229 --> 01:40:52,639 you know through the networks of 2752 01:40:55,990 --> 01:40:54,239 switzerland and 2753 01:40:58,310 --> 01:40:56,000 the royal family of england and all this 2754 01:41:00,470 --> 01:40:58,320 stuff there's there's no money shortage 2755 01:41:02,709 --> 01:41:00,480 for anyone in the deep state 2756 01:41:04,550 --> 01:41:02,719 not a not a bit 2757 01:41:06,629 --> 01:41:04,560 yeah they just find black budget money 2758 01:41:08,310 --> 01:41:06,639 right they create money big banks create 2759 01:41:09,990 --> 01:41:08,320 money they print their own money that's 2760 01:41:12,310 --> 01:41:10,000 a good 2761 01:41:14,310 --> 01:41:12,320 one of the big reasons for inflation i 2762 01:41:16,550 --> 01:41:14,320 believe that oh sure and we've been 2763 01:41:18,550 --> 01:41:16,560 following the money supply yeah none of 2764 01:41:19,750 --> 01:41:18,560 the none of these other 2765 01:41:21,830 --> 01:41:19,760 explanations 2766 01:41:23,910 --> 01:41:21,840 i'm wondering how these politicians and 2767 01:41:25,270 --> 01:41:23,920 everybody don't know what the problem is 2768 01:41:27,830 --> 01:41:25,280 when they're printing trillions of 2769 01:41:29,910 --> 01:41:27,840 dollars some of them know 2770 01:41:31,669 --> 01:41:29,920 they know yeah but they can't talk about 2771 01:41:33,270 --> 01:41:31,679 they have to talk about non-sequiturs 2772 01:41:34,629 --> 01:41:33,280 well i can't speak to that so let me 2773 01:41:36,629 --> 01:41:34,639 talk about this it's like what lou 2774 01:41:38,709 --> 01:41:36,639 elizondo does he's like well i can't 2775 01:41:41,109 --> 01:41:38,719 speak to that ufo that you saw at the 2776 01:41:42,550 --> 01:41:41,119 parking lot but you know my aunt carrie 2777 01:41:44,390 --> 01:41:42,560 in west virginia and you know she bakes 2778 01:41:46,149 --> 01:41:44,400 apple pie and it looks like a ufo and we 2779 01:41:48,790 --> 01:41:46,159 used to throw the pie pans around and he 2780 01:41:49,990 --> 01:41:48,800 goes down this dirt road 2781 01:41:52,310 --> 01:41:50,000 good question 2782 01:41:53,510 --> 01:41:52,320 you know i wanted to get back to 2783 01:41:55,750 --> 01:41:53,520 we're running out of time but i 2784 01:41:58,149 --> 01:41:55,760 definitely listen this history stuff 2785 01:41:59,030 --> 01:41:58,159 like i could just do this for five hours 2786 01:42:00,870 --> 01:41:59,040 but 2787 01:42:03,590 --> 01:42:00,880 people really want me to that i had a 2788 01:42:05,510 --> 01:42:03,600 few requests because of your outspoken 2789 01:42:06,790 --> 01:42:05,520 nature about chris mellon and lou 2790 01:42:08,149 --> 01:42:06,800 elizondo 2791 01:42:10,149 --> 01:42:08,159 here's a problem that i have with lu 2792 01:42:11,910 --> 01:42:10,159 elizondo he claims that he's a 2793 01:42:14,629 --> 01:42:11,920 disclosure advocate and then he makes 2794 01:42:18,870 --> 01:42:14,639 these bombshell statements like 2795 01:42:21,350 --> 01:42:18,880 we have uh craft captured craft we have 2796 01:42:23,910 --> 01:42:21,360 biological samples we have all these 2797 01:42:25,270 --> 01:42:23,920 things but then he won't tell us 2798 01:42:27,189 --> 01:42:25,280 the rest of it 2799 01:42:30,149 --> 01:42:27,199 and and to me and then he would point to 2800 01:42:32,950 --> 01:42:30,159 his nda i have to be very careful here 2801 01:42:35,189 --> 01:42:32,960 it's like a dance with him and to me if 2802 01:42:37,830 --> 01:42:35,199 you've got the goods on 2803 01:42:41,109 --> 01:42:37,840 alien biological samples and let's say 2804 01:42:42,709 --> 01:42:41,119 he does have ndas and clearance problems 2805 01:42:44,709 --> 01:42:42,719 if he talks 2806 01:42:46,950 --> 01:42:44,719 but wouldn't they be upset with him for 2807 01:42:49,189 --> 01:42:46,960 just saying that much just as upset as 2808 01:42:51,510 --> 01:42:49,199 they would be as if he told us who has 2809 01:42:52,550 --> 01:42:51,520 the biological samples where they were 2810 01:42:54,709 --> 01:42:52,560 obtained 2811 01:42:56,470 --> 01:42:54,719 what happened to them what the outcome 2812 01:42:59,030 --> 01:42:56,480 was of the study of them and where 2813 01:43:00,950 --> 01:42:59,040 they're at now it makes no sense that he 2814 01:43:03,109 --> 01:43:00,960 does this dance because 2815 01:43:04,870 --> 01:43:03,119 if if that's that's you know answered 2816 01:43:07,430 --> 01:43:04,880 your own question he doesn't make any 2817 01:43:08,470 --> 01:43:07,440 sense he's a trained counterintelligence 2818 01:43:11,030 --> 01:43:08,480 officer 2819 01:43:13,750 --> 01:43:11,040 but the problem is you know my o and i 2820 01:43:15,030 --> 01:43:13,760 friends they say we know lou 2821 01:43:17,189 --> 01:43:15,040 very well 2822 01:43:18,870 --> 01:43:17,199 and we know his reputation and and i 2823 01:43:20,070 --> 01:43:18,880 said well what's your advice this is 2824 01:43:21,669 --> 01:43:20,080 years ago 2825 01:43:23,030 --> 01:43:21,679 and they said steer clear and don't 2826 01:43:24,470 --> 01:43:23,040 believe a word that comes out of his 2827 01:43:25,270 --> 01:43:24,480 mouth 2828 01:43:27,109 --> 01:43:25,280 wow 2829 01:43:29,270 --> 01:43:27,119 and coming from somebody like you they 2830 01:43:31,910 --> 01:43:29,280 don't know why someone like chris miller 2831 01:43:34,070 --> 01:43:31,920 and my cousin would even 2832 01:43:36,830 --> 01:43:34,080 be buddy buddies with this guy uh 2833 01:43:39,990 --> 01:43:36,840 they're polar opposites i find that very 2834 01:43:41,270 --> 01:43:40,000 strange uh yeah you know we don't melons 2835 01:43:44,149 --> 01:43:41,280 don't hang out with 2836 01:43:46,629 --> 01:43:44,159 ex-army counterintelligence in-country 2837 01:43:47,669 --> 01:43:46,639 you know interrogation specialists 2838 01:43:49,030 --> 01:43:47,679 spooks 2839 01:43:51,109 --> 01:43:49,040 um 2840 01:43:53,590 --> 01:43:51,119 chris has to and because of his former 2841 01:43:56,470 --> 01:43:53,600 work and he probably he's always once 2842 01:43:59,030 --> 01:43:56,480 intel always intel and so they're an odd 2843 01:44:01,189 --> 01:43:59,040 couple it's so goofy and weird and 2844 01:44:03,910 --> 01:44:01,199 disturbing because the things that are 2845 01:44:07,270 --> 01:44:03,920 leading the american public 2846 01:44:08,870 --> 01:44:07,280 is misleading them it's it's atrocious 2847 01:44:10,709 --> 01:44:08,880 because it's giving more and more 2848 01:44:12,470 --> 01:44:10,719 credibility to the story of all the 2849 01:44:15,430 --> 01:44:12,480 dirty laundry of the military-industrial 2850 01:44:17,030 --> 01:44:15,440 complex and the ic and the corporations 2851 01:44:18,950 --> 01:44:17,040 and the government you know and all the 2852 01:44:23,189 --> 01:44:18,960 military branches have have their own 2853 01:44:24,870 --> 01:44:23,199 black ops uh portions that have stained 2854 01:44:27,189 --> 01:44:24,880 the reputation 2855 01:44:29,750 --> 01:44:27,199 of the army air force marines and the 2856 01:44:31,990 --> 01:44:29,760 navy because most of those people are 2857 01:44:33,910 --> 01:44:32,000 upstanding patriotic citizens i've known 2858 01:44:36,390 --> 01:44:33,920 a lot of them i met all the crew of the 2859 01:44:38,149 --> 01:44:36,400 uss john warner submarine my god the 2860 01:44:39,750 --> 01:44:38,159 captain and i laughed about it with the 2861 01:44:41,109 --> 01:44:39,760 that's another part of history though i 2862 01:44:42,550 --> 01:44:41,119 said there's a zero point energy 2863 01:44:44,149 --> 01:44:42,560 generator in the hole isn't there 2864 01:44:46,310 --> 01:44:44,159 captain up but it goes 100 knots 2865 01:44:48,390 --> 01:44:46,320 underwater and he just laughed and said 2866 01:44:50,629 --> 01:44:48,400 that was really nice to meet you and he 2867 01:44:52,790 --> 01:44:50,639 walked away yeah but back but back to 2868 01:44:54,870 --> 01:44:52,800 elizondo do you really believe that 2869 01:44:56,709 --> 01:44:54,880 because there's a few possibilities here 2870 01:44:59,270 --> 01:44:56,719 either he's controlled 2871 01:45:01,590 --> 01:44:59,280 disclosure and and they're trying to 2872 01:45:03,910 --> 01:45:01,600 craft the narrative their way the way 2873 01:45:06,229 --> 01:45:03,920 they would prefer it to be 2874 01:45:08,470 --> 01:45:06,239 dripped out to the american public 2875 01:45:10,870 --> 01:45:08,480 like he's a paid almost 2876 01:45:12,629 --> 01:45:10,880 disinformation agent he was officially a 2877 01:45:14,790 --> 01:45:12,639 counter intelligence guy 2878 01:45:17,270 --> 01:45:14,800 he is and so you believe but do you 2879 01:45:18,070 --> 01:45:17,280 believe that he is paid by some 2880 01:45:19,910 --> 01:45:18,080 deep 2881 01:45:22,550 --> 01:45:19,920 dark part of the government that has 2882 01:45:23,990 --> 01:45:22,560 access to the ufo secrets to try to 2883 01:45:26,790 --> 01:45:24,000 control the narrative do you believe 2884 01:45:30,470 --> 01:45:26,800 that he's in on it i mean the dia he's 2885 01:45:31,590 --> 01:45:30,480 dia and cia so is chris but look you 2886 01:45:32,870 --> 01:45:31,600 know 2887 01:45:34,629 --> 01:45:32,880 chris and lou let's give them the 2888 01:45:37,430 --> 01:45:34,639 benefit of doubt you know i have nothing 2889 01:45:39,510 --> 01:45:37,440 personal against either of them i'm just 2890 01:45:42,310 --> 01:45:39,520 well what's your cause and so i hope not 2891 01:45:43,990 --> 01:45:42,320 yeah you know and it's you know 2892 01:45:45,590 --> 01:45:44,000 for lou some of it it's the money and 2893 01:45:47,350 --> 01:45:45,600 fame that's certainly not something 2894 01:45:49,750 --> 01:45:47,360 chris is a very private person he 2895 01:45:51,430 --> 01:45:49,760 doesn't want fame he's doing this i 2896 01:45:54,550 --> 01:45:51,440 think they're both doing it 2897 01:45:56,310 --> 01:45:54,560 out of a sense of patriotic patriotism 2898 01:45:58,950 --> 01:45:56,320 and here's why 2899 01:46:01,189 --> 01:45:58,960 um i think they truly believe 2900 01:46:03,109 --> 01:46:01,199 what they were told by their bosses and 2901 01:46:04,709 --> 01:46:03,119 and there is a grain of truth as we and 2902 01:46:07,510 --> 01:46:04,719 i discussed earlier 2903 01:46:09,430 --> 01:46:07,520 that the american people will panic 2904 01:46:11,510 --> 01:46:09,440 and we will have 2905 01:46:13,189 --> 01:46:11,520 violent protests and 2906 01:46:14,870 --> 01:46:13,199 suicides and 2907 01:46:17,510 --> 01:46:14,880 collapse of religions and and things 2908 01:46:20,229 --> 01:46:17,520 like that they have a point 2909 01:46:21,990 --> 01:46:20,239 but this what they're doing is not the 2910 01:46:23,830 --> 01:46:22,000 way to do it it's because they're lying 2911 01:46:26,629 --> 01:46:23,840 and they're and they're skewing it 2912 01:46:29,030 --> 01:46:26,639 in a way to distract and 2913 01:46:30,709 --> 01:46:29,040 you know and that's just giving further 2914 01:46:34,470 --> 01:46:30,719 you know my heart is sinking because 2915 01:46:35,510 --> 01:46:34,480 it's just it's giving me more and more 2916 01:46:37,830 --> 01:46:35,520 you know 2917 01:46:39,510 --> 01:46:37,840 circumstantial evidence that that all 2918 01:46:41,750 --> 01:46:39,520 these crimes 2919 01:46:43,430 --> 01:46:41,760 have been committed especially you know 2920 01:46:46,550 --> 01:46:43,440 a human trafficking component to the 2921 01:46:48,790 --> 01:46:46,560 secret space program that's horrific to 2922 01:46:50,550 --> 01:46:48,800 consider yeah i hate that i i mean i 2923 01:46:52,830 --> 01:46:50,560 lose sleep my 2924 01:46:55,109 --> 01:46:52,840 man i puked in sinks i mean it's 2925 01:46:56,709 --> 01:46:55,119 disgusting well speaking of crimes they 2926 01:46:58,790 --> 01:46:56,719 may not believe that they may not 2927 01:47:00,390 --> 01:46:58,800 believe the chris said he doesn't 2928 01:47:02,629 --> 01:47:00,400 believe the wild stuff he said that to 2929 01:47:05,590 --> 01:47:02,639 me yeah he said you're into too far into 2930 01:47:07,510 --> 01:47:05,600 the wild stuff like tommy 2931 01:47:08,950 --> 01:47:07,520 even it i said chris 2932 01:47:11,510 --> 01:47:08,960 even if 10 2933 01:47:12,629 --> 01:47:11,520 of that is true it is absolutely 2934 01:47:14,790 --> 01:47:12,639 astounding 2935 01:47:17,030 --> 01:47:14,800 you can't ignore some of this stuff he 2936 01:47:19,510 --> 01:47:17,040 just said no you and tom delong and i 2937 01:47:22,070 --> 01:47:19,520 was like okay i'm insulted 2938 01:47:23,750 --> 01:47:22,080 you know i mean tom delong may mean you 2939 01:47:25,750 --> 01:47:23,760 know he's not an activist he's in bed 2940 01:47:27,990 --> 01:47:25,760 with a c.i.a and i don't know maybe they 2941 01:47:31,189 --> 01:47:28,000 blackmailed him too i mean it's just 2942 01:47:36,310 --> 01:47:33,990 on our heroes i'm like yeah you guys are 2943 01:47:37,830 --> 01:47:36,320 you kidding these people you mentioned 2944 01:47:39,270 --> 01:47:37,840 you mentioned crimes though and i don't 2945 01:47:40,709 --> 01:47:39,280 want to put you in a tight position but 2946 01:47:44,070 --> 01:47:40,719 i have said that 2947 01:47:46,470 --> 01:47:44,080 ttsa came out two investors in a press 2948 01:47:48,390 --> 01:47:46,480 conference or mock press conference and 2949 01:47:49,910 --> 01:47:48,400 they said we're going to build a 2950 01:47:51,590 --> 01:47:49,920 revolutionary spaceship with a 2951 01:47:53,189 --> 01:47:51,600 revolutionary power source that's going 2952 01:47:54,790 --> 01:47:53,199 to change the world as they were 2953 01:47:56,709 --> 01:47:54,800 soliciting 2954 01:47:58,870 --> 01:47:56,719 you know investor money 2955 01:48:00,790 --> 01:47:58,880 then they'd already been built yeah but 2956 01:48:02,950 --> 01:48:00,800 they didn't produce anything for the 2957 01:48:04,390 --> 01:48:02,960 investor money so my point is isn't that 2958 01:48:06,310 --> 01:48:04,400 investor fraud and shouldn't they have 2959 01:48:07,109 --> 01:48:06,320 to answer for that both chris and luke 2960 01:48:09,030 --> 01:48:07,119 because they were part of the 2961 01:48:11,030 --> 01:48:09,040 organization they just sort of walked 2962 01:48:13,510 --> 01:48:11,040 away and went and left tom holding the 2963 01:48:16,229 --> 01:48:13,520 bag going oh we didn't say nothing about 2964 01:48:17,669 --> 01:48:16,239 building a spaceship uh tom and tom did 2965 01:48:19,590 --> 01:48:17,679 that you know and 2966 01:48:21,270 --> 01:48:19,600 nobody asked them questions about that 2967 01:48:22,709 --> 01:48:21,280 and that bothers me they do media 2968 01:48:25,109 --> 01:48:22,719 appearances 2969 01:48:27,109 --> 01:48:25,119 why doesn't anybody say hey where's the 2970 01:48:29,830 --> 01:48:27,119 spaceship you promised investors where'd 2971 01:48:33,109 --> 01:48:29,840 all the money 30 million go those guys 2972 01:48:35,350 --> 01:48:33,119 nobody knows they're above the law 2973 01:48:37,189 --> 01:48:35,360 like a cia person would be right any one 2974 01:48:38,229 --> 01:48:37,199 government or military is above above 2975 01:48:43,830 --> 01:48:38,239 the law 2976 01:48:46,470 --> 01:48:43,840 um and jordan maxwell speaks to this who 2977 01:48:49,270 --> 01:48:46,480 i think is a great researcher and he 2978 01:48:51,510 --> 01:48:49,280 said look the law protects the system 2979 01:48:52,390 --> 01:48:51,520 the legal system that's its primary 2980 01:48:54,870 --> 01:48:52,400 function 2981 01:48:57,030 --> 01:48:54,880 it protects corporations politicians 2982 01:48:59,430 --> 01:48:57,040 powerful rich people elites 2983 01:49:01,189 --> 01:48:59,440 and everyone else gets short shrift 2984 01:49:04,070 --> 01:49:01,199 and that's why in the prison system is 2985 01:49:05,669 --> 01:49:04,080 just slave labor it is it is slave labor 2986 01:49:07,270 --> 01:49:05,679 well yeah we saw kamal howard's trying 2987 01:49:09,030 --> 01:49:07,280 to keep people in prison so that she 2988 01:49:12,550 --> 01:49:09,040 could use them to fight wildfires 2989 01:49:16,550 --> 01:49:14,470 people in the core is impossible you 2990 01:49:18,870 --> 01:49:16,560 couldn't get near chris mellon he has 2991 01:49:20,790 --> 01:49:18,880 national security get out of jail free 2992 01:49:23,669 --> 01:49:20,800 cards they all so is it a bit like the 2993 01:49:26,149 --> 01:49:23,679 the recent revelations that cia people 2994 01:49:28,070 --> 01:49:26,159 were caught with pedophile stuff on 2995 01:49:29,589 --> 01:49:28,080 their computers and doing pedophile 2996 01:49:31,430 --> 01:49:29,599 things and they were never prosecuted 2997 01:49:32,709 --> 01:49:31,440 because they might if they were forced 2998 01:49:34,950 --> 01:49:32,719 to testify 2999 01:49:37,109 --> 01:49:34,960 you know be forced to give away secrets 3000 01:49:38,790 --> 01:49:37,119 is that why they get a pass chris and 3001 01:49:40,070 --> 01:49:38,800 another 3002 01:49:41,910 --> 01:49:40,080 they get a pass because of their 3003 01:49:43,990 --> 01:49:41,920 national security stuff yeah they can't 3004 01:49:46,550 --> 01:49:44,000 go to so they can run any scam they want 3005 01:49:47,750 --> 01:49:46,560 like is that how it works within reason 3006 01:49:48,950 --> 01:49:47,760 i guess right i'm just going to get 3007 01:49:50,870 --> 01:49:48,960 advanced 3008 01:49:52,149 --> 01:49:50,880 this is the state of play in america it 3009 01:49:58,629 --> 01:49:52,159 it 3010 01:49:59,830 --> 01:49:58,639 not the black part deep state part but i 3011 01:50:02,229 --> 01:49:59,840 love 3012 01:50:03,510 --> 01:50:02,239 but it's just a shame and people go 3013 01:50:05,109 --> 01:50:03,520 through their daily lives they're like 3014 01:50:06,470 --> 01:50:05,119 well that's just the way things are and 3015 01:50:08,310 --> 01:50:06,480 i'm like 3016 01:50:11,510 --> 01:50:08,320 i don't think so 3017 01:50:13,350 --> 01:50:11,520 you know yeah some somebody said 3018 01:50:18,470 --> 01:50:13,360 an e.t said 3019 01:50:20,629 --> 01:50:18,480 the darkest place in the universe 3020 01:50:22,709 --> 01:50:20,639 and you guys need to understand that and 3021 01:50:24,390 --> 01:50:22,719 that's why supposedly there's a lot of 3022 01:50:27,109 --> 01:50:24,400 benevolent people and mother ships you 3023 01:50:30,390 --> 01:50:27,119 know hanging out rooting for us you know 3024 01:50:31,189 --> 01:50:30,400 12 dna 12 strand dna experiment 22 3025 01:50:33,669 --> 01:50:31,199 different 3026 01:50:35,430 --> 01:50:33,679 sets of dna from star beings and star 3027 01:50:37,350 --> 01:50:35,440 nations you know that's 3028 01:50:39,350 --> 01:50:37,360 probably who we are you know 3029 01:50:41,750 --> 01:50:39,360 uh darwinianism that's that's stupid 3030 01:50:43,510 --> 01:50:41,760 evolution apes that's stupid 3031 01:50:45,990 --> 01:50:43,520 that that's been yeah that was quite a 3032 01:50:48,149 --> 01:50:46,000 there was quite a jump in a very i never 3033 01:50:50,229 --> 01:50:48,159 believed i i mean i believe in evolution 3034 01:50:51,669 --> 01:50:50,239 but some of the some of the things were 3035 01:50:54,149 --> 01:50:51,679 told about the 3036 01:50:56,070 --> 01:50:54,159 the origin of our species it's just the 3037 01:50:58,629 --> 01:50:56,080 missing light there's just so fast it 3038 01:51:01,350 --> 01:50:58,639 just happened too fast 3039 01:51:04,629 --> 01:51:01,360 to this proto-humans neanderthals and 3040 01:51:06,390 --> 01:51:04,639 australopithecus they're not humans 3041 01:51:07,830 --> 01:51:06,400 they don't pack the gear for speech they 3042 01:51:09,990 --> 01:51:07,840 don't have higher 3043 01:51:11,189 --> 01:51:10,000 uh consciousness capabilities and 3044 01:51:12,950 --> 01:51:11,199 everyone's like well we'll find that 3045 01:51:14,709 --> 01:51:12,960 missing link well they they'll still 3046 01:51:16,950 --> 01:51:14,719 keep digging in ethiopia finding 3047 01:51:18,390 --> 01:51:16,960 proto-humans well their defense they 3048 01:51:21,589 --> 01:51:18,400 found some of them but they haven't 3049 01:51:24,310 --> 01:51:21,599 found enough no you know we have some 3050 01:51:26,790 --> 01:51:24,320 chimp dna neanderthal dna which has 3051 01:51:28,550 --> 01:51:26,800 chimp dna in it lloyd pie drilled this 3052 01:51:31,830 --> 01:51:28,560 out dr lloyd pie 3053 01:51:34,390 --> 01:51:31,840 and p-y-e is his name he's dead now but 3054 01:51:36,310 --> 01:51:34,400 he did he said there's no way we evolve 3055 01:51:38,790 --> 01:51:36,320 for me it's just impossible i followed 3056 01:51:40,629 --> 01:51:38,800 him a lot i liked him he was a brilliant 3057 01:51:42,629 --> 01:51:40,639 guy and it's just some 3058 01:51:45,030 --> 01:51:42,639 confusion because lord ludacris platt is 3059 01:51:51,109 --> 01:51:45,040 asking has john ever met chris and chris 3060 01:51:56,310 --> 01:51:52,470 young kids 3061 01:51:58,709 --> 01:51:56,320 wow i would like to see that 3062 01:52:02,149 --> 01:51:58,719 you two future illuminati we were both 3063 01:52:03,830 --> 01:52:02,159 wimpy kids i mean properly paranoid asks 3064 01:52:05,910 --> 01:52:03,840 and this is right on topic if lou is 3065 01:52:07,189 --> 01:52:05,920 pushing disclosure as a patriotic duty 3066 01:52:09,030 --> 01:52:07,199 and is now being labeled as a 3067 01:52:10,709 --> 01:52:09,040 whistleblower how can he still be 3068 01:52:12,950 --> 01:52:10,719 employed for the us government because 3069 01:52:15,350 --> 01:52:12,960 yeah he's he said he's a contractor for 3070 01:52:17,030 --> 01:52:15,360 the us government right now 3071 01:52:19,510 --> 01:52:17,040 that doesn't make sense either right if 3072 01:52:21,669 --> 01:52:19,520 he's spilling the beans on ufos 3073 01:52:23,510 --> 01:52:21,679 nothing they wouldn't hire him right 3074 01:52:25,589 --> 01:52:23,520 well remember what my o and i friends 3075 01:52:27,510 --> 01:52:25,599 told me steer clear don't worry believe 3076 01:52:29,589 --> 01:52:27,520 a word or his mouth he's he's probably 3077 01:52:31,109 --> 01:52:29,599 paid by 10 different agencies his 3078 01:52:33,589 --> 01:52:31,119 paychecks come in the mail you know from 3079 01:52:35,510 --> 01:52:33,599 10 different places 3080 01:52:37,270 --> 01:52:35,520 you know he may i think him and chris 3081 01:52:39,430 --> 01:52:37,280 really do there's a component of them 3082 01:52:40,550 --> 01:52:39,440 that think they're doing the patriotic 3083 01:52:42,149 --> 01:52:40,560 best right 3084 01:52:43,910 --> 01:52:42,159 take one for the team 3085 01:52:46,470 --> 01:52:43,920 because i told chris in a letter i said 3086 01:52:48,070 --> 01:52:46,480 listen man i'm your cousin i [\h__\h] 3087 01:52:50,229 --> 01:52:48,080 love you man but you're going to be the 3088 01:52:51,750 --> 01:52:50,239 fall guys in this 3089 01:52:53,589 --> 01:52:51,760 they really only need to throw somebody 3090 01:52:55,589 --> 01:52:53,599 under the bus those two are they'll 3091 01:52:57,189 --> 01:52:55,599 throw me in there they'll look me up 3092 01:52:59,669 --> 01:52:57,199 with the illuminati villains who would 3093 01:53:01,350 --> 01:52:59,679 you know but you know i'll be a loser 3094 01:53:03,430 --> 01:53:01,360 too but it's like man you're going to be 3095 01:53:05,589 --> 01:53:03,440 the fall guys why 3096 01:53:08,629 --> 01:53:05,599 yeah and thank you properly paranoid 3097 01:53:10,070 --> 01:53:08,639 leave the thin file they got on the ufo 3098 01:53:12,629 --> 01:53:10,080 subject 3099 01:53:14,070 --> 01:53:12,639 they believe it wholeheartedly and yeah 3100 01:53:15,750 --> 01:53:14,080 so you think they only got a small 3101 01:53:19,910 --> 01:53:15,760 portion right and thank you for 3102 01:53:23,669 --> 01:53:22,470 you know it's it's it's crazy and i'm 3103 01:53:25,669 --> 01:53:23,679 like 3104 01:53:27,189 --> 01:53:25,679 who would volunteer 3105 01:53:28,950 --> 01:53:27,199 for this job 3106 01:53:31,189 --> 01:53:28,960 where it's obviously going to fall apart 3107 01:53:33,270 --> 01:53:31,199 within 10 years it the great awakening 3108 01:53:35,270 --> 01:53:33,280 is happening it's a fact i mean i've 3109 01:53:37,189 --> 01:53:35,280 seen it over the past 40 years people 3110 01:53:37,990 --> 01:53:37,199 are much more interested 3111 01:53:41,589 --> 01:53:38,000 in 3112 01:53:43,669 --> 01:53:41,599 earth history and megaliths and ufos and 3113 01:53:45,589 --> 01:53:43,679 and the universe and the cosmos and 3114 01:53:47,189 --> 01:53:45,599 consciousness you know i think i've seen 3115 01:53:48,870 --> 01:53:47,199 a switch too from what i remember from 3116 01:53:51,270 --> 01:53:48,880 when i was very younger nobody talked 3117 01:53:54,149 --> 01:53:51,280 about this no one there'd be like one 3118 01:53:56,550 --> 01:53:54,159 television show a year about anything 3119 01:53:58,390 --> 01:53:56,560 ufo kid in high school and so was chris 3120 01:54:00,390 --> 01:53:58,400 chris millen had a ufo club in high 3121 01:54:02,229 --> 01:54:00,400 school and college i did not know that 3122 01:54:04,790 --> 01:54:02,239 so he's had a lifelong interest and al 3123 01:54:07,430 --> 01:54:04,800 warner asks i think there's part of him 3124 01:54:10,229 --> 01:54:07,440 that's really earnest about this but he 3125 01:54:12,709 --> 01:54:10,239 does not see the corruption 3126 01:54:13,750 --> 01:54:12,719 warriors asking about he doesn't see the 3127 01:54:19,669 --> 01:54:13,760 the 3128 01:54:22,629 --> 01:54:19,679 some problems yeah but he doesn't see 3129 01:54:25,430 --> 01:54:22,639 the floor national security haha 3130 01:54:28,070 --> 01:54:25,440 al warrior the kind of five dollar 3131 01:54:29,589 --> 01:54:28,080 he's asking can this be related to 4-1-1 3132 01:54:31,910 --> 01:54:29,599 missing are you familiar with that sort 3133 01:54:34,070 --> 01:54:31,920 of conspiracy the 4-1-1 missing missing 3134 01:54:35,750 --> 01:54:34,080 people for their own agenda 3135 01:54:37,189 --> 01:54:35,760 a lot of people go missing if they're if 3136 01:54:38,229 --> 01:54:37,199 they're doing something people don't 3137 01:54:40,550 --> 01:54:38,239 like right 3138 01:54:41,990 --> 01:54:40,560 but yeah i mean 4-1-1 missing is all in 3139 01:54:44,390 --> 01:54:42,000 the national parks it's a strange 3140 01:54:46,790 --> 01:54:44,400 conspiracy well there isn't 3141 01:54:48,149 --> 01:54:46,800 that high-value targets like scientists 3142 01:54:50,149 --> 01:54:48,159 and engineers 3143 01:54:53,109 --> 01:54:50,159 are abducted for the secret space 3144 01:54:55,350 --> 01:54:53,119 program or the deep state uh usap and 3145 01:54:57,109 --> 01:54:55,360 acknowledge special access programs from 3146 01:54:59,589 --> 01:54:57,119 national parks 3147 01:55:02,070 --> 01:54:59,599 um that's the story it does make sense 3148 01:55:03,990 --> 01:55:02,080 it's a great place to kidnap someone 3149 01:55:05,830 --> 01:55:04,000 yeah if they're hiking out in the woods 3150 01:55:07,350 --> 01:55:05,840 in the national park or they you know if 3151 01:55:09,990 --> 01:55:07,360 you want to get rid of somebody a plane 3152 01:55:12,070 --> 01:55:10,000 crash or you know a fake heart attack 3153 01:55:13,350 --> 01:55:12,080 you know that's easy stuff to do 3154 01:55:15,510 --> 01:55:13,360 you know what i just saw that i thought 3155 01:55:18,390 --> 01:55:15,520 it was terrifying stephen and i die in 3156 01:55:19,589 --> 01:55:18,400 car crashes or heart attacks you know 3157 01:55:21,990 --> 01:55:19,599 you know what i just saw that i thought 3158 01:55:23,910 --> 01:55:22,000 was terrifying 3159 01:55:25,669 --> 01:55:23,920 that the cia developed a heart attack 3160 01:55:27,830 --> 01:55:25,679 gun 3161 01:55:29,510 --> 01:55:27,840 oh that's the least of their toys i mean 3162 01:55:31,270 --> 01:55:29,520 they've got you know they can kill you 3163 01:55:33,589 --> 01:55:31,280 with a satellite 3164 01:55:35,430 --> 01:55:33,599 a millisecond but that's crazy they went 3165 01:55:37,350 --> 01:55:35,440 to the trouble of developing a heart 3166 01:55:39,270 --> 01:55:37,360 attack gun that shoots a dart that 3167 01:55:42,070 --> 01:55:39,280 injects a chemical and then the dark 3168 01:55:44,070 --> 01:55:42,080 dissolves so that there'd be no and it 3169 01:55:46,390 --> 01:55:44,080 just gives people a heart attack right 3170 01:55:48,470 --> 01:55:46,400 and it looks to a medical examiner it 3171 01:55:49,350 --> 01:55:48,480 looks to a medical examiner like this is 3172 01:55:51,830 --> 01:55:49,360 just 3173 01:55:52,629 --> 01:55:51,840 a routine heart attack and most people 3174 01:55:54,070 --> 01:55:52,639 you know 3175 01:55:55,669 --> 01:55:54,080 they wouldn't do an autopsy even they 3176 01:55:57,510 --> 01:55:55,679 just know that's a heart attack that's 3177 01:55:59,109 --> 01:55:57,520 just james bond spy stuff you know like 3178 01:56:01,109 --> 01:55:59,119 the russians with the little tablet of 3179 01:56:02,470 --> 01:56:01,119 beryllium it's terrifying that our 3180 01:56:04,070 --> 01:56:02,480 government is doing that because we 3181 01:56:06,629 --> 01:56:04,080 don't know they're not using on american 3182 01:56:08,149 --> 01:56:06,639 citizens or whatever man they just they 3183 01:56:10,870 --> 01:56:08,159 do whatever they want 3184 01:56:13,430 --> 01:56:10,880 everyone does everyone in the deep state 3185 01:56:15,270 --> 01:56:13,440 does whatever the [\h__\h] they want 3186 01:56:16,709 --> 01:56:15,280 and honestly there's not much we can do 3187 01:56:19,109 --> 01:56:16,719 about it except 3188 01:56:21,510 --> 01:56:19,119 talk about it and spread awareness of 3189 01:56:23,109 --> 01:56:21,520 possibilities and and theories 3190 01:56:25,350 --> 01:56:23,119 you know there's no conspiracy theories 3191 01:56:26,870 --> 01:56:25,360 as there's conspiracy information 3192 01:56:28,870 --> 01:56:26,880 you know what people do with that 3193 01:56:30,390 --> 01:56:28,880 information up to them 3194 01:56:32,709 --> 01:56:30,400 you know everyone's gonna say words are 3195 01:56:35,109 --> 01:56:32,719 liars an [\h__\h] you know okay you know 3196 01:56:37,510 --> 01:56:35,119 but i'm just telling my opinions you 3197 01:56:39,589 --> 01:56:37,520 know you can form formula i want people 3198 01:56:41,350 --> 01:56:39,599 to think for themselves stand in their 3199 01:56:43,830 --> 01:56:41,360 own power and you know 3200 01:56:45,030 --> 01:56:43,840 be in power don't bow down to any 3201 01:56:47,109 --> 01:56:45,040 government or 3202 01:56:49,830 --> 01:56:47,119 god or whatever you know gods are the 3203 01:56:51,910 --> 01:56:49,840 gods were just et's you know i don't 3204 01:56:53,669 --> 01:56:51,920 know a lot of people believe that 3205 01:56:55,270 --> 01:56:53,679 probably a god or you know sword i'm 3206 01:56:57,109 --> 01:56:55,280 going back and forth because at first i 3207 01:56:58,950 --> 01:56:57,119 went no sichuan was wrong about so many 3208 01:57:00,870 --> 01:56:58,960 of his translations but then when you 3209 01:57:02,870 --> 01:57:00,880 see the real translations even it's 3210 01:57:04,629 --> 01:57:02,880 still compelling evidence yeah what 3211 01:57:06,229 --> 01:57:04,639 ludicrous plaid wants to know and this 3212 01:57:08,229 --> 01:57:06,239 is a great this is 3213 01:57:10,790 --> 01:57:08,239 he got a lot of stuff wrong but he got a 3214 01:57:12,870 --> 01:57:10,800 lot of stuff right too yeah yeah i have 3215 01:57:15,109 --> 01:57:12,880 to be i have to go back over that whole 3216 01:57:16,629 --> 01:57:15,119 rabbit hole but due to recent things 3217 01:57:19,430 --> 01:57:16,639 that i've been reading but lord ludacris 3218 01:57:21,589 --> 01:57:19,440 plaid has a good point here where does 3219 01:57:23,910 --> 01:57:21,599 there seem to be a change from kraft to 3220 01:57:26,070 --> 01:57:23,920 orbs and the skinwalker dino beavers 3221 01:57:27,990 --> 01:57:26,080 which i thought was ridiculous is it to 3222 01:57:30,550 --> 01:57:28,000 keep the eyes and this is my theory that 3223 01:57:32,709 --> 01:57:30,560 a lot of ufo stuff is to keep the eyes 3224 01:57:34,470 --> 01:57:32,719 off of drones black projects and 3225 01:57:35,669 --> 01:57:34,480 military technology and he says great 3226 01:57:37,430 --> 01:57:35,679 show what do you think of that do you 3227 01:57:39,910 --> 01:57:37,440 think that there's a concerted 3228 01:57:41,910 --> 01:57:39,920 disinformation campaign where ufos are 3229 01:57:44,470 --> 01:57:41,920 used as cover for black projects because 3230 01:57:46,390 --> 01:57:44,480 i certainly i really believe that the 3231 01:57:48,629 --> 01:57:46,400 whistleblower richard doty you know he 3232 01:57:50,629 --> 01:57:48,639 was a counterintelligence expert i mean 3233 01:57:52,709 --> 01:57:50,639 he says that 3234 01:57:54,709 --> 01:57:52,719 you know um i think skin i don't know 3235 01:57:56,790 --> 01:57:54,719 much about skinwalker ranch only that 3236 01:57:59,589 --> 01:57:56,800 the american west according to the 3237 01:58:02,229 --> 01:57:59,599 native americans is very leaky is a lot 3238 01:58:03,830 --> 01:58:02,239 of natural portals to other dimensions 3239 01:58:06,709 --> 01:58:03,840 and they they talk about this in their 3240 01:58:08,550 --> 01:58:06,719 in their people said that yeah history 3241 01:58:10,470 --> 01:58:08,560 and so that makes sense skin rocker 3242 01:58:13,270 --> 01:58:10,480 ranch is probably some 3243 01:58:15,109 --> 01:58:13,280 deep state you know enclave where 3244 01:58:16,709 --> 01:58:15,119 et's appeared you know they're like hey 3245 01:58:19,589 --> 01:58:16,719 how you doing and they're like 3246 01:58:21,350 --> 01:58:19,599 soldiers and searchlights and you know 3247 01:58:24,149 --> 01:58:21,360 all the way and they're like well hey 3248 01:58:25,270 --> 01:58:24,159 i'm just here to get pick up mangoes 3249 01:58:27,109 --> 01:58:25,280 that's the only thing we're here to pick 3250 01:58:29,030 --> 01:58:27,119 up the mangoes and watermelons or you 3251 01:58:31,350 --> 01:58:29,040 pick the wrong spot e.t 3252 01:58:32,790 --> 01:58:31,360 you know and they arrest them you know i 3253 01:58:35,669 --> 01:58:32,800 don't know i mean there's a lot of wacky 3254 01:58:38,790 --> 01:58:35,679 stuff out west but you know the doctor 3255 01:58:40,790 --> 01:58:38,800 the story of the dolce bass 3256 01:58:43,109 --> 01:58:40,800 and all the gray hybrid human 3257 01:58:45,189 --> 01:58:43,119 experiments and the horrors of women and 3258 01:58:47,589 --> 01:58:45,199 children in cages you know that's on an 3259 01:58:49,350 --> 01:58:47,599 apache indian reservation yeah and you 3260 01:58:51,270 --> 01:58:49,360 know i went there they'll tell you about 3261 01:58:53,669 --> 01:58:51,280 all the black i went there i went there 3262 01:58:56,149 --> 01:58:53,679 looking for everything and i even paid 3263 01:58:58,870 --> 01:58:56,159 but i paid a native american 3264 01:59:02,229 --> 01:58:58,880 a lot of military presence on their 3265 01:59:04,709 --> 01:59:02,239 reservation because i paid 3266 01:59:06,070 --> 01:59:04,719 i paid to get access to that you know 3267 01:59:07,669 --> 01:59:06,080 it's on a native american reservation 3268 01:59:09,910 --> 01:59:07,679 you're not even allowed to walk on there 3269 01:59:12,390 --> 01:59:09,920 without permission so i i sort of paid 3270 01:59:14,950 --> 01:59:12,400 the native american off to be a guide 3271 01:59:16,870 --> 01:59:14,960 and and uh we didn't see anything but to 3272 01:59:19,270 --> 01:59:16,880 my you know i don't know i thought that 3273 01:59:21,669 --> 01:59:19,280 that was all disinformation i didn't see 3274 01:59:23,669 --> 01:59:21,679 any signs of a you know like vents or a 3275 01:59:25,030 --> 01:59:23,679 base and was all over it but then i 3276 01:59:26,629 --> 01:59:25,040 thought well they could have moved it 3277 01:59:28,950 --> 01:59:26,639 after word got out or you know i don't 3278 01:59:30,870 --> 01:59:28,960 know but i wanted to you know i wanted 3279 01:59:32,790 --> 01:59:30,880 to get back to you uh 3280 01:59:34,470 --> 01:59:32,800 we got to end this soon because i don't 3281 01:59:36,149 --> 01:59:34,480 want to keep you though i appreciate 3282 01:59:37,750 --> 01:59:36,159 your time immensely and i'm so sorry for 3283 01:59:40,470 --> 01:59:37,760 our screw-up earlier 3284 01:59:42,790 --> 01:59:40,480 but listen your father's i did a lot of 3285 01:59:44,310 --> 01:59:42,800 research on him because i i started 3286 01:59:46,470 --> 01:59:44,320 listening to your interviews and i was 3287 01:59:48,470 --> 01:59:46,480 fascinated by your family history so i 3288 01:59:49,990 --> 01:59:48,480 did a lot of research on your father and 3289 01:59:51,910 --> 01:59:50,000 i wanted to know because you've 3290 01:59:54,149 --> 01:59:51,920 mentioned it that at various times you 3291 01:59:56,550 --> 01:59:54,159 went to your father and you were asking 3292 01:59:59,030 --> 01:59:56,560 him about ufos and he had this sort of 3293 02:00:00,790 --> 01:59:59,040 strange attitude towards you about it so 3294 02:00:03,030 --> 02:00:00,800 i wanted to know 3295 02:00:05,750 --> 02:00:03,040 what do you think that your father 3296 02:00:07,430 --> 02:00:05,760 knew about ufos aliens and the 3297 02:00:09,510 --> 02:00:07,440 government secrets 3298 02:00:10,870 --> 02:00:09,520 and and 3299 02:00:13,430 --> 02:00:10,880 you know because you've come to him at 3300 02:00:15,750 --> 02:00:13,440 various times and sometimes he was 3301 02:00:17,510 --> 02:00:15,760 very cagey about it telling you it was 3302 02:00:19,510 --> 02:00:17,520 nonsense and you're wasting your time 3303 02:00:22,470 --> 02:00:19,520 right and then other times 3304 02:00:24,470 --> 02:00:22,480 he sort of let a little bit loose right 3305 02:00:26,629 --> 02:00:24,480 what do you think he knew and what did 3306 02:00:27,990 --> 02:00:26,639 he tell you later in his life or did he 3307 02:00:30,870 --> 02:00:28,000 tell you anything 3308 02:00:33,669 --> 02:00:30,880 it's a long story um but i do tell the 3309 02:00:35,430 --> 02:00:33,679 story uh in my other interviews like on 3310 02:00:38,550 --> 02:00:35,440 dark journalists and with regina 3311 02:00:40,149 --> 02:00:38,560 meredith so i'll do the quick version 3312 02:00:42,310 --> 02:00:40,159 when he was secretary of navy and i was 3313 02:00:45,910 --> 02:00:42,320 a kid i read his top secret briefings i 3314 02:00:47,990 --> 02:00:45,920 was off his desk yeah bastard 3315 02:00:49,830 --> 02:00:48,000 top secret what's this dad i'm gonna 3316 02:00:51,990 --> 02:00:49,840 read this yeah my best friend and i were 3317 02:00:54,470 --> 02:00:52,000 like ooh project you know you know 3318 02:00:57,189 --> 02:00:54,480 operation you know deep freeze 3319 02:00:58,629 --> 02:00:57,199 and he he's he was really angry when he 3320 02:01:01,830 --> 02:00:58,639 found out 3321 02:01:04,229 --> 02:01:01,840 he never locked his safe 3322 02:01:05,510 --> 02:01:04,239 maybe i knew the combo i can't remember 3323 02:01:06,830 --> 02:01:05,520 i was like well 3324 02:01:10,390 --> 02:01:06,840 but when i was 3325 02:01:12,149 --> 02:01:10,400 14 i said to him i said one night he had 3326 02:01:14,550 --> 02:01:12,159 a few drinks and i said oh hit him up 3327 02:01:16,550 --> 02:01:14,560 hit him up and i said i'll get him when 3328 02:01:18,790 --> 02:01:16,560 he's drunk 3329 02:01:20,629 --> 02:01:18,800 come on dad operation d freeze why the 3330 02:01:23,030 --> 02:01:20,639 hell are we in antarctica why is the 3331 02:01:25,030 --> 02:01:23,040 navy down there and he said well the 3332 02:01:27,030 --> 02:01:25,040 russians have missile silos and sub 3333 02:01:28,550 --> 02:01:27,040 bases and we have to have ours to 3334 02:01:29,990 --> 02:01:28,560 counter that 3335 02:01:32,229 --> 02:01:30,000 but and i said well there's got to be 3336 02:01:34,709 --> 02:01:32,239 more than that you know why all the way 3337 02:01:36,470 --> 02:01:34,719 down there and he said well he pointed 3338 02:01:38,870 --> 02:01:36,480 up to the night sky all the stars and he 3339 02:01:41,109 --> 02:01:38,880 said space operations 3340 02:01:43,350 --> 02:01:41,119 now i didn't think much about that until 3341 02:01:45,270 --> 02:01:43,360 i read nick's cook nick cook's book on 3342 02:01:47,669 --> 02:01:45,280 the germans in antarctica and apparently 3343 02:01:49,510 --> 02:01:47,679 there's an electromagnetic hole that 3344 02:01:51,109 --> 02:01:49,520 makes it easy to go in and out from 3345 02:01:53,830 --> 02:01:51,119 space 3346 02:01:55,350 --> 02:01:53,840 but in 1993 i'd always talk to him about 3347 02:01:56,229 --> 02:01:55,360 ufos and you didn't want to talk about 3348 02:01:59,030 --> 02:01:56,239 it 3349 02:02:01,430 --> 02:01:59,040 and then in the 80s not many people did 3350 02:02:03,270 --> 02:02:01,440 but in 1993 a racing buddy sent me the 3351 02:02:05,430 --> 02:02:03,280 mj12 files 3352 02:02:06,390 --> 02:02:05,440 and i i showed them to dad i printed 3353 02:02:07,430 --> 02:02:06,400 them out 3354 02:02:09,350 --> 02:02:07,440 and i said 3355 02:02:11,109 --> 02:02:09,360 i don't know the validity of these they 3356 02:02:13,270 --> 02:02:11,119 come from a guy i know his father's in 3357 02:02:14,149 --> 02:02:13,280 the aerospace business what the hell is 3358 02:02:16,550 --> 02:02:14,159 this 3359 02:02:18,709 --> 02:02:16,560 and he said uh um let me borrow these 3360 02:02:20,070 --> 02:02:18,719 let me read them and i was like oh 3361 02:02:21,990 --> 02:02:20,080 that's strange 3362 02:02:23,830 --> 02:02:22,000 and what about rayderm right now he's 3363 02:02:26,229 --> 02:02:23,840 like no no i don't have time 3364 02:02:28,790 --> 02:02:26,239 maybe he recognized the moniker majestic 3365 02:02:31,189 --> 02:02:28,800 right away oh yes he did 3366 02:02:32,550 --> 02:02:31,199 we went back and forth for months 3367 02:02:34,470 --> 02:02:32,560 every couple weeks i was like what about 3368 02:02:35,990 --> 02:02:34,480 those files i'll get back to you what 3369 02:02:37,109 --> 02:02:36,000 about those files i don't 3370 02:02:39,990 --> 02:02:37,119 have time 3371 02:02:42,629 --> 02:02:40,000 and finally i cornered him i said enough 3372 02:02:43,589 --> 02:02:42,639 you know this is 1993 this is early on 3373 02:02:46,629 --> 02:02:43,599 for me 3374 02:02:49,109 --> 02:02:46,639 and i was a very naive 31 3375 02:02:51,030 --> 02:02:49,119 i really was um 3376 02:02:52,550 --> 02:02:51,040 race cars beer women i was just a 3377 02:02:54,550 --> 02:02:52,560 [\h__\h] idiot 3378 02:02:56,709 --> 02:02:54,560 you got you got like unlimited money so 3379 02:02:59,189 --> 02:02:56,719 i don't blame you i'd be partying it up 3380 02:03:01,109 --> 02:02:59,199 right well not unlimited but race cars 3381 02:03:02,790 --> 02:03:01,119 and women sounds fun to me it did i did 3382 02:03:04,390 --> 02:03:02,800 party it up 3383 02:03:06,550 --> 02:03:04,400 but you know we're young young people 3384 02:03:09,109 --> 02:03:06,560 that's what you do but i did this one 3385 02:03:10,950 --> 02:03:09,119 thing and i said 3386 02:03:13,109 --> 02:03:10,960 god damn it tell me the [\h__\h] truth on 3387 02:03:15,430 --> 02:03:13,119 this this is the truth isn't it and he 3388 02:03:17,510 --> 02:03:15,440 said no now listen and the pentagon told 3389 02:03:19,189 --> 02:03:17,520 me it was a hoax the fbi said this i 3390 02:03:21,189 --> 02:03:19,199 said what do you think 3391 02:03:22,790 --> 02:03:21,199 and he said well i said i've read this 3392 02:03:24,310 --> 02:03:22,800 book on roswell i've read this book you 3393 02:03:26,870 --> 02:03:24,320 know the project blue book i've been 3394 02:03:29,669 --> 02:03:26,880 after ufos all my life you know that you 3395 02:03:31,270 --> 02:03:29,679 know i know about this subject somewhat 3396 02:03:34,149 --> 02:03:31,280 i'm not as good as other people but i 3397 02:03:38,070 --> 02:03:34,159 knew some stuff 3398 02:03:41,589 --> 02:03:39,830 don't go down that road 3399 02:03:43,830 --> 02:03:41,599 you're not gonna find what you want that 3400 02:03:46,870 --> 02:03:43,840 is national security stuff 3401 02:03:49,350 --> 02:03:46,880 they've got it all wrapped up 3402 02:03:51,189 --> 02:03:49,360 you you won't find anyone to talk with 3403 02:03:53,510 --> 02:03:51,199 you about it which is not true i talked 3404 02:03:54,870 --> 02:03:53,520 to bobby raymond about it in his office 3405 02:03:57,109 --> 02:03:54,880 the admiral 3406 02:03:59,109 --> 02:03:57,119 but he said 3407 02:04:00,550 --> 02:03:59,119 he was just trying to protect me and and 3408 02:04:03,510 --> 02:04:00,560 i know that now 3409 02:04:05,990 --> 02:04:03,520 but i was like god damn it he said just 3410 02:04:08,550 --> 02:04:06,000 leave this alone and live your life and 3411 02:04:10,069 --> 02:04:08,560 go race have fun i said how the [\h__\h] am 3412 02:04:12,310 --> 02:04:10,079 i going to have any fun or do anything 3413 02:04:13,350 --> 02:04:12,320 in life now now that i know this is the 3414 02:04:14,950 --> 02:04:13,360 this is the 3415 02:04:16,870 --> 02:04:14,960 the truth of the world 3416 02:04:18,790 --> 02:04:16,880 and you won't deny that 3417 02:04:20,310 --> 02:04:18,800 engineering that's what i thought and 3418 02:04:22,709 --> 02:04:20,320 maybe i thought was interesting is he 3419 02:04:25,109 --> 02:04:22,719 didn't deny that you knew the truth he 3420 02:04:27,589 --> 02:04:25,119 just told you to stay away from it 3421 02:04:29,350 --> 02:04:27,599 i mean grier told me he was a magic 3422 02:04:30,870 --> 02:04:29,360 member which is majority for joint 3423 02:04:33,430 --> 02:04:30,880 intelligence committee 3424 02:04:35,109 --> 02:04:33,440 which was not anymore they changed the 3425 02:04:38,470 --> 02:04:35,119 names and changed all these committees 3426 02:04:40,310 --> 02:04:38,480 and acronyms but it was a liaison he was 3427 02:04:42,790 --> 02:04:40,320 on the senate select intel and he was 3428 02:04:45,589 --> 02:04:42,800 chairman of the armed services committee 3429 02:04:47,430 --> 02:04:45,599 and so he was read in on his slice of 3430 02:04:50,790 --> 02:04:47,440 the ufo file 3431 02:04:52,790 --> 02:04:50,800 but what my dad did was kind of smart 3432 02:04:55,589 --> 02:04:52,800 throughout my travels with him all over 3433 02:04:57,270 --> 02:04:55,599 the world in russia and naval bases and 3434 02:04:59,030 --> 02:04:57,280 military people 3435 02:05:02,550 --> 02:04:59,040 buckingham palace 3436 02:05:03,910 --> 02:05:02,560 he showed me the deep state 3437 02:05:06,310 --> 02:05:03,920 firsthand 3438 02:05:08,310 --> 02:05:06,320 but didn't call it that or didn't say 3439 02:05:09,830 --> 02:05:08,320 that you know i i have stories that i'll 3440 02:05:11,589 --> 02:05:09,840 relate you know on the farnborough air 3441 02:05:13,910 --> 02:05:11,599 show where we had to go meet you know 3442 02:05:15,510 --> 02:05:13,920 some royal duke he was an [\h__\h] and i 3443 02:05:17,189 --> 02:05:15,520 said what does this have to do with air 3444 02:05:19,030 --> 02:05:17,199 force procurement 3445 02:05:20,790 --> 02:05:19,040 and it's all he said this is all wrapped 3446 02:05:21,830 --> 02:05:20,800 up together we have to deal with these 3447 02:05:22,629 --> 02:05:21,840 people 3448 02:05:25,109 --> 02:05:22,639 now 3449 02:05:26,629 --> 02:05:25,119 it's complicated but he he basically he 3450 02:05:29,030 --> 02:05:26,639 couldn't tell me anything but what he 3451 02:05:30,229 --> 02:05:29,040 did was smart he took me with him 3452 02:05:31,830 --> 02:05:30,239 everywhere 3453 02:05:34,069 --> 02:05:31,840 yeah did you meet the queen of england 3454 02:05:35,830 --> 02:05:34,079 too oh many times 3455 02:05:37,589 --> 02:05:35,840 yeah my grandfather was good friends 3456 02:05:38,870 --> 02:05:37,599 with her and andrew mellon was good 3457 02:05:40,790 --> 02:05:38,880 friends with the royal family he was 3458 02:05:41,669 --> 02:05:40,800 ambassador to england 3459 02:05:43,669 --> 02:05:41,679 yeah 3460 02:05:46,790 --> 02:05:43,679 so that that's a whole other story and 3461 02:05:49,990 --> 02:05:46,800 that gets into the occult side but 3462 02:05:51,910 --> 02:05:50,000 my dad what he did was he showed me and 3463 02:05:54,149 --> 02:05:51,920 a lot of times i was like well this is 3464 02:05:55,910 --> 02:05:54,159 cool naval base and you know we'd be on 3465 02:05:57,510 --> 02:05:55,920 some carrier and there'd be some lights 3466 02:05:59,910 --> 02:05:57,520 on the horizon and all the crews going 3467 02:06:01,990 --> 02:05:59,920 ooh ah what's that you know and so i 3468 02:06:03,669 --> 02:06:02,000 would see ufos but they wouldn't call 3469 02:06:06,390 --> 02:06:03,679 them that 3470 02:06:08,629 --> 02:06:06,400 and so what he did was he 3471 02:06:10,870 --> 02:06:08,639 took me and showed me the world 3472 02:06:12,550 --> 02:06:10,880 firsthand i mean we would go to third 3473 02:06:13,830 --> 02:06:12,560 world countries and see you know dead 3474 02:06:15,350 --> 02:06:13,840 bodies and 3475 02:06:17,109 --> 02:06:15,360 war zones and things like that really 3476 02:06:19,189 --> 02:06:17,119 disgusting things because he wanted me 3477 02:06:20,390 --> 02:06:19,199 to grow the [\h__\h] up 3478 02:06:22,229 --> 02:06:20,400 and he 3479 02:06:24,550 --> 02:06:22,239 he knew i was gonna do something like 3480 02:06:26,470 --> 02:06:24,560 this someday and before he died he urged 3481 02:06:28,790 --> 02:06:26,480 me to come forward i never would have 3482 02:06:30,470 --> 02:06:28,800 without him wow that's interesting i 3483 02:06:31,990 --> 02:06:30,480 know what is another little-known fact 3484 02:06:34,229 --> 02:06:32,000 about your father is that he was at one 3485 02:06:36,709 --> 02:06:34,239 time married to elizabeth taylor and she 3486 02:06:38,950 --> 02:06:36,719 believed in ufos what was she like which 3487 02:06:40,229 --> 02:06:38,960 you should talk to you about ufos right 3488 02:06:42,149 --> 02:06:40,239 she did 3489 02:06:43,510 --> 02:06:42,159 she saw one off the coast of california 3490 02:06:45,750 --> 02:06:43,520 with eddie fisher 3491 02:06:47,589 --> 02:06:45,760 and it did the zigzag impossibility 3492 02:06:49,189 --> 02:06:47,599 maneuvers g-force 3493 02:06:51,750 --> 02:06:49,199 and you know because it had a time space 3494 02:06:54,709 --> 02:06:51,760 bubble around it and 3495 02:06:56,709 --> 02:06:54,719 so she knew that truth 3496 02:06:58,069 --> 02:06:56,719 and they tried she and eddie fisher and 3497 02:06:59,510 --> 02:06:58,079 maybe some of our other husbands they 3498 02:07:01,430 --> 02:06:59,520 tried to get some information and they 3499 02:07:03,589 --> 02:07:01,440 were just like 3500 02:07:05,589 --> 02:07:03,599 [\h__\h] off movie stars now of course today 3501 02:07:07,109 --> 02:07:05,599 they use movie stars as mouthpieces for 3502 02:07:09,830 --> 02:07:07,119 disinformation 3503 02:07:11,350 --> 02:07:09,840 but we got demi lovato as a ufo expert 3504 02:07:13,669 --> 02:07:11,360 all of a sudden and 3505 02:07:16,390 --> 02:07:13,679 marilyn monroe is definitely mind 3506 02:07:18,310 --> 02:07:16,400 controlled and see i am called k ultra 3507 02:07:20,229 --> 02:07:18,320 stuff but 3508 02:07:22,069 --> 02:07:20,239 she she believed in all that and she was 3509 02:07:25,030 --> 02:07:22,079 very cool and down to earth 3510 02:07:27,109 --> 02:07:25,040 so but the thing is with my dad is 3511 02:07:28,870 --> 02:07:27,119 you know i came to realize that even 3512 02:07:31,109 --> 02:07:28,880 though you know 911 came around and i 3513 02:07:32,629 --> 02:07:31,119 grilled him on the pentagon hole 3514 02:07:34,470 --> 02:07:32,639 you know and i said this was a tomahawk 3515 02:07:35,830 --> 02:07:34,480 wasn't it there there's no plain debris 3516 02:07:37,750 --> 02:07:35,840 no wings 3517 02:07:40,390 --> 02:07:37,760 nothing at the pentagon he said i will 3518 02:07:42,870 --> 02:07:40,400 not talk about this with you 3519 02:07:44,790 --> 02:07:42,880 and by dent of him refusing to talk 3520 02:07:46,870 --> 02:07:44,800 about something he's telling me in a 3521 02:07:48,470 --> 02:07:46,880 roundabout way 3522 02:07:51,270 --> 02:07:48,480 yes 3523 02:07:53,669 --> 02:07:51,280 it was a tomahawk now go 3524 02:07:55,990 --> 02:07:53,679 piece it together on your own and even 3525 02:07:58,790 --> 02:07:56,000 though he can't say that verbally 3526 02:08:00,629 --> 02:07:58,800 by his actions he made me do that and so 3527 02:08:02,790 --> 02:08:00,639 i would get even more curious and more 3528 02:08:04,069 --> 02:08:02,800 and i started i was hooked after 9 11 3529 02:08:05,750 --> 02:08:04,079 like a lot of people 3530 02:08:07,430 --> 02:08:05,760 man i knew the deep state was really 3531 02:08:09,109 --> 02:08:07,440 real 3532 02:08:11,430 --> 02:08:09,119 and i was there the day before and the 3533 02:08:13,270 --> 02:08:11,440 day after i lost a friend in the in the 3534 02:08:15,270 --> 02:08:13,280 towers 3535 02:08:16,229 --> 02:08:15,280 and uh it's a miracle i was at the hotel 3536 02:08:17,189 --> 02:08:16,239 across the street i would have been 3537 02:08:20,069 --> 02:08:17,199 killed 3538 02:08:21,750 --> 02:08:20,079 um but you know it's it's weird and i'm 3539 02:08:24,310 --> 02:08:21,760 down there the day after 3540 02:08:26,550 --> 02:08:24,320 in in the ground zero with a shovel with 3541 02:08:28,550 --> 02:08:26,560 my friend and there was nothing to do 3542 02:08:29,750 --> 02:08:28,560 and so i knew i knew that's when i 3543 02:08:32,229 --> 02:08:29,760 really got 3544 02:08:34,229 --> 02:08:32,239 shiver went down the spine and i knew 3545 02:08:37,109 --> 02:08:34,239 holy [\h__\h] i bet the ufos are connected 3546 02:08:39,589 --> 02:08:37,119 and it all was but he couldn't talk 3547 02:08:42,550 --> 02:08:39,599 about a lot of stuff but by his actions 3548 02:08:43,669 --> 02:08:42,560 and what he would do with me he showed 3549 02:08:44,870 --> 02:08:43,679 it to me 3550 02:08:47,430 --> 02:08:44,880 in other words 3551 02:08:49,430 --> 02:08:47,440 you can talk to somebody about ufos but 3552 02:08:50,950 --> 02:08:49,440 if you take them to area 51 and take 3553 02:08:53,589 --> 02:08:50,960 them into a hangar and show them 3554 02:08:55,350 --> 02:08:53,599 something without saying a word 3555 02:08:57,350 --> 02:08:55,360 you could say well i didn't i didn't say 3556 02:08:59,270 --> 02:08:57,360 anything 3557 02:09:01,990 --> 02:08:59,280 yeah you could pass a polygraph i never 3558 02:09:03,750 --> 02:09:02,000 said anything to you somebody and yeah 3559 02:09:06,069 --> 02:09:03,760 but in the majestic 12th house he was 3560 02:09:08,229 --> 02:09:06,950 yeah 3561 02:09:09,910 --> 02:09:08,239 they're real 3562 02:09:12,229 --> 02:09:09,920 but that's amazing 3563 02:09:14,390 --> 02:09:12,239 such an amazing you had your father was 3564 02:09:17,189 --> 02:09:14,400 such an amazing guy i was fascinated 3565 02:09:18,950 --> 02:09:17,199 well he did his part to keep the secrecy 3566 02:09:20,390 --> 02:09:18,960 going and the status quo going i'm not 3567 02:09:21,830 --> 02:09:20,400 happy about that 3568 02:09:23,990 --> 02:09:21,840 but you know that's 3569 02:09:26,629 --> 02:09:24,000 he's a naive guy too i mean he's nowhere 3570 02:09:28,709 --> 02:09:26,639 near as knowledgeable as i i am on 3571 02:09:30,470 --> 02:09:28,719 anything but he was a he was a smart 3572 02:09:33,830 --> 02:09:30,480 politician 3573 02:09:35,109 --> 02:09:33,840 and he was smart he wanted me he said do 3574 02:09:36,629 --> 02:09:35,119 you want to come on this trip it's going 3575 02:09:38,629 --> 02:09:36,639 to be you need a security clearance with 3576 02:09:39,910 --> 02:09:38,639 the cia we're going to make gorbachev 3577 02:09:44,069 --> 02:09:39,920 you know you're going to get grilled and 3578 02:09:47,669 --> 02:09:44,079 blah blah so i have a cia file i do 3579 02:09:49,910 --> 02:09:47,679 when my wife um was gonna date me first 3580 02:09:52,069 --> 02:09:49,920 when we first met she had to put me 3581 02:09:53,430 --> 02:09:52,079 submit me and i said oh don't worry 3582 02:09:55,750 --> 02:09:53,440 i already have a file from going to 3583 02:09:57,589 --> 02:09:55,760 russia yeah they could just add to it 3584 02:09:59,350 --> 02:09:57,599 right is that true well if you're in the 3585 02:10:01,189 --> 02:09:59,360 cia and you're a woman and you start 3586 02:10:02,790 --> 02:10:01,199 dating a guy you have to well i thought 3587 02:10:04,950 --> 02:10:02,800 it was great yeah she was checked out 3588 02:10:06,790 --> 02:10:04,960 brilliant linguist uh she's had it was 3589 02:10:07,910 --> 02:10:06,800 head of the spanish division 3590 02:10:09,910 --> 02:10:07,920 but 3591 02:10:11,669 --> 02:10:09,920 the thing is you know my dad took me and 3592 02:10:13,430 --> 02:10:11,679 showed me the world the slice of the 3593 02:10:15,030 --> 02:10:13,440 world most people don't get to see 3594 02:10:16,550 --> 02:10:15,040 yeah like i said you got you got your 3595 02:10:18,470 --> 02:10:16,560 family has been at the crossroads of 3596 02:10:20,870 --> 02:10:18,480 history you met gorbachev 3597 02:10:22,950 --> 02:10:20,880 england 3598 02:10:24,629 --> 02:10:22,960 he'd say look you need to pay attention 3599 02:10:26,069 --> 02:10:24,639 when we go in to meet gorbachev you need 3600 02:10:28,390 --> 02:10:26,079 to listen 3601 02:10:29,750 --> 02:10:28,400 and shut your mouth and listen to what's 3602 02:10:31,910 --> 02:10:29,760 being said because you need to start 3603 02:10:33,589 --> 02:10:31,920 reading between the lines 3604 02:10:35,030 --> 02:10:33,599 and i did i didn't listen you know 3605 02:10:36,950 --> 02:10:35,040 everything and i didn't know russian but 3606 02:10:39,270 --> 02:10:36,960 i knew russian history from my college 3607 02:10:42,310 --> 02:10:39,280 years i was my major 3608 02:10:44,390 --> 02:10:42,320 and so he said always listen you need to 3609 02:10:45,990 --> 02:10:44,400 you need to listen carefully because 3610 02:10:47,270 --> 02:10:46,000 what these people say especially when 3611 02:10:48,870 --> 02:10:47,280 they're drunk 3612 02:10:50,629 --> 02:10:48,880 is very telling 3613 02:10:53,750 --> 02:10:50,639 and yeah get a few martinis in it we'll 3614 02:10:55,430 --> 02:10:53,760 get a picture of how the world works 3615 02:10:57,990 --> 02:10:55,440 and so 3616 02:10:59,669 --> 02:10:58,000 you know all these stories i have 3617 02:11:01,990 --> 02:10:59,679 being with him and travels all over the 3618 02:11:02,950 --> 02:11:02,000 world he was showing me how the world 3619 02:11:05,350 --> 02:11:02,960 works 3620 02:11:07,430 --> 02:11:05,360 and not just the posh dinner parties and 3621 02:11:08,790 --> 02:11:07,440 champagne stuff he showed me the dirty 3622 02:11:10,550 --> 02:11:08,800 side of things he says let's go to the 3623 02:11:12,229 --> 02:11:10,560 bad neighborhood of this city 3624 02:11:15,109 --> 02:11:12,239 and we'd go and we'd see the shanty 3625 02:11:16,790 --> 02:11:15,119 towns and people in a ditch dying or you 3626 02:11:18,310 --> 02:11:16,800 know i saw that in egypt in indonesia 3627 02:11:20,709 --> 02:11:18,320 when i was a teenager 3628 02:11:22,390 --> 02:11:20,719 you know i didn't shy away from that i 3629 02:11:24,550 --> 02:11:22,400 was i wanted to know everything about 3630 02:11:25,910 --> 02:11:24,560 the world and especially all the hard 3631 02:11:27,589 --> 02:11:25,920 stuff 3632 02:11:29,589 --> 02:11:27,599 and i've never been on a battlefront but 3633 02:11:31,669 --> 02:11:29,599 i've never been near ones and just the 3634 02:11:32,790 --> 02:11:31,679 devastation and 3635 02:11:34,390 --> 02:11:32,800 that's why i'm trying to work with 3636 02:11:36,709 --> 02:11:34,400 veterans i'm trying to do my part to 3637 02:11:38,310 --> 02:11:36,719 give back to those yeah thank you thank 3638 02:11:41,750 --> 02:11:38,320 you for that because my father was a 3639 02:11:44,390 --> 02:11:41,760 veteran and he uh i appreciate that 3640 02:11:45,189 --> 02:11:44,400 that's my duty and they're very nice and 3641 02:11:46,310 --> 02:11:45,199 uh 3642 02:11:48,470 --> 02:11:46,320 well i 3643 02:11:50,310 --> 02:11:48,480 i've kept you here for a very long time 3644 02:11:54,069 --> 02:11:50,320 but i thought that the best way to end 3645 02:11:56,069 --> 02:11:54,079 this because i i see you as this sort of 3646 02:11:57,430 --> 02:11:56,079 like you said earlier like this sponge 3647 02:11:59,350 --> 02:11:57,440 and you're taking in all of this 3648 02:12:01,430 --> 02:11:59,360 conspiracy land stuff 3649 02:12:04,229 --> 02:12:01,440 so i'd like to ask 3650 02:12:07,109 --> 02:12:04,239 for your prediction of what's coming in 3651 02:12:08,629 --> 02:12:07,119 the world of conspiracies and ufos in 3652 02:12:10,390 --> 02:12:08,639 2022 3653 02:12:11,350 --> 02:12:10,400 what do you see happening in the next 3654 02:12:14,229 --> 02:12:11,360 year 3655 02:12:16,709 --> 02:12:14,239 with ufos with uh with maybe some 3656 02:12:19,990 --> 02:12:16,719 revelations about 3657 02:12:22,310 --> 02:12:20,000 the deep state in our world because it 3658 02:12:24,390 --> 02:12:22,320 seems like before it used to be remember 3659 02:12:26,149 --> 02:12:24,400 before when everything all these crazy 3660 02:12:28,229 --> 02:12:26,159 conspiracy theorists but now it seems 3661 02:12:29,589 --> 02:12:28,239 like there's a 60-day window between a 3662 02:12:32,310 --> 02:12:29,599 conspiracy 3663 02:12:34,229 --> 02:12:32,320 and it's a reality now right like yeah i 3664 02:12:36,629 --> 02:12:34,239 mean we find these things out like oh 3665 02:12:38,470 --> 02:12:36,639 we're not crazy this is this really did 3666 02:12:41,270 --> 02:12:38,480 happen well you know i mean thank chris 3667 02:12:43,189 --> 02:12:41,280 and lou and the dia and the cia because 3668 02:12:44,950 --> 02:12:43,199 we were all in the just everyone in the 3669 02:12:48,149 --> 02:12:44,960 disclosure movement was vindicated in 3670 02:12:50,149 --> 02:12:48,159 2017. i had good friends from college 3671 02:12:52,069 --> 02:12:50,159 come up and say hey you're not an idiot 3672 02:12:54,149 --> 02:12:52,079 after all you were right about ufos yeah 3673 02:12:57,510 --> 02:12:54,159 the government said they're real right 3674 02:12:58,390 --> 02:12:57,520 you know jerk off you know 3675 02:12:59,910 --> 02:12:58,400 you know 3676 02:13:01,510 --> 02:12:59,920 but at least they did that they brought 3677 02:13:03,350 --> 02:13:01,520 a dead topic alive i give them credit 3678 02:13:05,669 --> 02:13:03,360 for that and they still are keeping it 3679 02:13:06,709 --> 02:13:05,679 alive so i give them credit for this 3680 02:13:07,830 --> 02:13:06,719 but 3681 02:13:08,870 --> 02:13:07,840 come on 3682 02:13:11,589 --> 02:13:08,880 i think we're going to get more of the 3683 02:13:14,550 --> 02:13:11,599 same in 2022 3684 02:13:16,390 --> 02:13:14,560 i don't predict things all that well i i 3685 02:13:18,709 --> 02:13:16,400 give you some opinions i i think they're 3686 02:13:20,310 --> 02:13:18,719 going to double down on the uap office 3687 02:13:22,629 --> 02:13:20,320 now there's going to be a uap in every 3688 02:13:24,790 --> 02:13:22,639 garage you know cnn's going to 3689 02:13:26,390 --> 02:13:24,800 pump that with you know 3690 02:13:28,310 --> 02:13:26,400 you know well yeah i don't know david 3691 02:13:30,550 --> 02:13:28,320 wilcox is going to be selling hover cars 3692 02:13:33,669 --> 02:13:30,560 you know 3693 02:13:36,069 --> 02:13:33,679 my gut feeling which i urge everyone to 3694 02:13:38,069 --> 02:13:36,079 respect that's your higher self your gut 3695 02:13:39,990 --> 02:13:38,079 feeling sixth sense 3696 02:13:43,350 --> 02:13:40,000 it's telling me that by 2030 we're going 3697 02:13:47,109 --> 02:13:45,350 really solid disclosure but i don't 3698 02:13:48,229 --> 02:13:47,119 think it's gonna make a lot of people 3699 02:13:49,189 --> 02:13:48,239 happy 3700 02:13:51,350 --> 02:13:49,199 um 3701 02:13:52,629 --> 02:13:51,360 i think disclosure is a very sad and 3702 02:13:54,550 --> 02:13:52,639 grim 3703 02:13:56,069 --> 02:13:54,560 reality yes there's some beautiful 3704 02:13:58,390 --> 02:13:56,079 things about it i mean obviously the 3705 02:14:00,950 --> 02:13:58,400 universe is mostly benevolent i think 3706 02:14:04,069 --> 02:14:00,960 that's wonderful i think what people are 3707 02:14:06,310 --> 02:14:04,079 doing with mass meditations and and uh 3708 02:14:08,870 --> 02:14:06,320 you know if they want to go on ce5 or 3709 02:14:11,270 --> 02:14:08,880 something i'd advise caution you might 3710 02:14:13,750 --> 02:14:11,280 summon a baddie but you know these are 3711 02:14:14,629 --> 02:14:13,760 all possible things to do 3712 02:14:16,550 --> 02:14:14,639 um 3713 02:14:18,870 --> 02:14:16,560 because really you know disclosure is 3714 02:14:21,109 --> 02:14:18,880 going to have to come from us 3715 02:14:23,109 --> 02:14:21,119 i believe that and it's not coming from 3716 02:14:23,750 --> 02:14:23,119 the cia people and this this gets back 3717 02:14:25,589 --> 02:14:23,760 to 3718 02:14:28,229 --> 02:14:25,599 my wacky theory that that maybe they're 3719 02:14:31,750 --> 02:14:28,239 doing a lot of this stupid thing uap 3720 02:14:34,229 --> 02:14:31,760 office stuff to to poke the disclosure 3721 02:14:35,910 --> 02:14:34,239 movement with sharpened sticks 3722 02:14:37,430 --> 02:14:35,920 and get us to 3723 02:14:38,310 --> 02:14:37,440 i don't know argue or whatever but at 3724 02:14:41,750 --> 02:14:38,320 least 3725 02:14:43,350 --> 02:14:41,760 do more because they can't 3726 02:14:45,189 --> 02:14:43,360 talk about it 3727 02:14:47,589 --> 02:14:45,199 uh other you know the deep state is full 3728 02:14:49,109 --> 02:14:47,599 of factions by all accounts and none of 3729 02:14:51,189 --> 02:14:49,119 them 3730 02:14:53,350 --> 02:14:51,199 and so a lot of these people have scalar 3731 02:14:56,550 --> 02:14:53,360 weapons that theoretically could take a 3732 02:14:57,830 --> 02:14:56,560 chunk of the earth you know away 3733 02:14:59,350 --> 02:14:57,840 which would kill everything on the 3734 02:15:02,629 --> 02:14:59,360 surface 3735 02:15:05,109 --> 02:15:02,639 um you know forget nukes you know i i i 3736 02:15:06,790 --> 02:15:05,119 i think it's most likely that 3737 02:15:08,790 --> 02:15:06,800 simon parks and other people are correct 3738 02:15:11,350 --> 02:15:08,800 the et's have been 3739 02:15:14,390 --> 02:15:11,360 disabling nukes since the early 90s 3740 02:15:16,069 --> 02:15:14,400 because come on that's terrifying some 3741 02:15:17,510 --> 02:15:16,079 some country would have lobbed off a 3742 02:15:19,669 --> 02:15:17,520 nuke by now 3743 02:15:22,790 --> 02:15:19,679 sure a few little tactical nukes i think 3744 02:15:24,629 --> 02:15:22,800 they were using them in yemen 3745 02:15:26,229 --> 02:15:24,639 if you look up videos of yemen and oh we 3746 02:15:30,069 --> 02:15:26,239 got an ammunition bunker look how giant 3747 02:15:33,830 --> 02:15:31,669 yeah 3748 02:15:35,990 --> 02:15:33,840 maybe that was an ammunition bunker 3749 02:15:37,350 --> 02:15:36,000 maybe it wasn't and somebody was using 3750 02:15:39,430 --> 02:15:37,360 attack nuke 3751 02:15:41,669 --> 02:15:39,440 you know it's apparently the tech nukes 3752 02:15:46,149 --> 02:15:41,679 that the us military has the radiation 3753 02:15:49,830 --> 02:15:48,149 that's what i've heard so take it for 3754 02:15:51,510 --> 02:15:49,840 what you want i mean this kind of stuff 3755 02:15:53,189 --> 02:15:51,520 yeah and i i've recently found out 3756 02:15:55,510 --> 02:15:53,199 through researching some stuff about 3757 02:15:57,830 --> 02:15:55,520 nuclear weapons that there's nuclear 3758 02:16:00,470 --> 02:15:57,840 weapons that don't irradiate 3759 02:16:02,229 --> 02:16:00,480 they simply explode in area so the 3760 02:16:04,550 --> 02:16:02,239 radiation for some of these weapons is 3761 02:16:06,310 --> 02:16:04,560 purposeful they don't have to irradiate 3762 02:16:07,510 --> 02:16:06,320 the whole area if they don't want to 3763 02:16:09,910 --> 02:16:07,520 some of the weapons 3764 02:16:12,229 --> 02:16:09,920 in the last 20 years of development yeah 3765 02:16:14,709 --> 02:16:12,239 yeah like just concussive huge bombs 3766 02:16:17,990 --> 02:16:14,719 that will you know destroy a whole city 3767 02:16:19,669 --> 02:16:18,000 but not leave it irradiated 3768 02:16:22,390 --> 02:16:19,679 it's possible they'll say that's just a 3769 02:16:24,310 --> 02:16:22,400 fuel air you know thermobaric weapon 3770 02:16:26,790 --> 02:16:24,320 which is also devastating like a 3771 02:16:28,550 --> 02:16:26,800 tactical yeah so you can use either or 3772 02:16:29,910 --> 02:16:28,560 you know depending on the application 3773 02:16:31,830 --> 02:16:29,920 maybe underground you can't use a 3774 02:16:32,709 --> 02:16:31,840 thermobaric obviously there's not enough 3775 02:16:34,709 --> 02:16:32,719 air 3776 02:16:36,230 --> 02:16:34,719 so maybe a tech nuke for underground 3777 02:16:39,270 --> 02:16:36,240 facilities is 3778 02:16:41,349 --> 02:16:39,280 the way to go for black ops 3779 02:16:42,950 --> 02:16:41,359 special forces you know 3780 02:16:43,990 --> 02:16:42,960 if we got it we're going to use it if we 3781 02:16:46,709 --> 02:16:44,000 got a weapon we're going to use it 3782 02:16:48,309 --> 02:16:46,719 that's the american way we're great at 3783 02:16:53,030 --> 02:16:48,319 dropping bombs on people especially 3784 02:16:57,349 --> 02:16:54,629 you know i remember when i was a kid i 3785 02:16:58,709 --> 02:16:57,359 used to cry on the you know my sisters 3786 02:17:01,669 --> 02:16:58,719 and i would cry when we see the big 3787 02:17:03,750 --> 02:17:01,679 bombers the b-52s just leveling villages 3788 02:17:05,110 --> 02:17:03,760 on on tv 3789 02:17:07,030 --> 02:17:05,120 i think that's why i never went in the 3790 02:17:08,549 --> 02:17:07,040 military even though i'm i'm very fond 3791 02:17:10,389 --> 02:17:08,559 of the us military 3792 02:17:12,870 --> 02:17:10,399 and it's people and don't you think you 3793 02:17:14,709 --> 02:17:12,880 like these or the deep state but the 3794 02:17:15,830 --> 02:17:14,719 people in it and and who are doing a 3795 02:17:17,589 --> 02:17:15,840 hard job 3796 02:17:19,190 --> 02:17:17,599 on submarines yeah i respect that but 3797 02:17:21,910 --> 02:17:19,200 don't you think if you wanted to i never 3798 02:17:25,110 --> 02:17:21,920 went in it because i i got this 3799 02:17:26,870 --> 02:17:25,120 i think my generation who saw vietnam 3800 02:17:29,349 --> 02:17:26,880 we got a bad taste for it i mean i 3801 02:17:31,190 --> 02:17:29,359 burned my my it wasn't a draft card but 3802 02:17:33,669 --> 02:17:31,200 it was selective service i burned that 3803 02:17:34,870 --> 02:17:33,679 in high school with every all my friends 3804 02:17:36,549 --> 02:17:34,880 everyone's like why didn't you go to the 3805 02:17:37,669 --> 02:17:36,559 marines or navies like your dad said i 3806 02:17:41,110 --> 02:17:37,679 said because 3807 02:17:43,190 --> 02:17:41,120 the stain of vietnam that horror 3808 02:17:46,469 --> 02:17:43,200 from my 80s generation i graduated high 3809 02:17:49,030 --> 02:17:46,479 school in 81 college 26 3810 02:17:50,790 --> 02:17:49,040 we were not i had two friends go in the 3811 02:17:52,309 --> 02:17:50,800 military of a class of 100 you know 3812 02:17:54,070 --> 02:17:52,319 whatever 72 3813 02:17:56,629 --> 02:17:54,080 high school 3814 02:17:58,070 --> 02:17:56,639 uh and that was it well and with your 3815 02:17:59,270 --> 02:17:58,080 family connections you could have went 3816 02:18:01,190 --> 02:17:59,280 anywhere you want you could have went to 3817 02:18:03,030 --> 02:18:01,200 an app i would have gone to the navy i 3818 02:18:04,549 --> 02:18:03,040 think either right 3819 02:18:05,589 --> 02:18:04,559 yeah i was i would have i really thought 3820 02:18:07,589 --> 02:18:05,599 about it 3821 02:18:09,110 --> 02:18:07,599 but then i was you know hooked on the 3822 02:18:11,270 --> 02:18:09,120 racing thing and i was young and i was 3823 02:18:13,190 --> 02:18:11,280 arrogant and i just said nah i'm going 3824 02:18:15,190 --> 02:18:13,200 to be a racing driver and that might 3825 02:18:17,669 --> 02:18:15,200 have been my higher self going don't go 3826 02:18:19,270 --> 02:18:17,679 in the military because 3827 02:18:21,589 --> 02:18:19,280 now this is a story i heard and i can't 3828 02:18:23,349 --> 02:18:21,599 confirm any of it but once you sign on 3829 02:18:25,190 --> 02:18:23,359 the dotted line i don't care if you're a 3830 02:18:28,150 --> 02:18:25,200 private first class or a four-star 3831 02:18:31,910 --> 02:18:28,160 general you sign that military 3832 02:18:34,629 --> 02:18:31,920 uh document your your 3833 02:18:38,150 --> 02:18:34,639 you're basically under national security 3834 02:18:39,990 --> 02:18:38,160 uh protocols and if you dig deep enough 3835 02:18:41,990 --> 02:18:40,000 if they don't like what you're doing or 3836 02:18:44,709 --> 02:18:42,000 what you're talking about they do have a 3837 02:18:45,750 --> 02:18:44,719 legal right to terminate you 3838 02:18:47,589 --> 02:18:45,760 wow 3839 02:18:49,589 --> 02:18:47,599 i can't confirm that 3840 02:18:51,190 --> 02:18:49,599 but it does make sense to me because my 3841 02:18:52,790 --> 02:18:51,200 o and i uh 3842 02:18:54,629 --> 02:18:52,800 buddy when i was telling him so about 3843 02:18:56,309 --> 02:18:54,639 some of this he said he said i can't 3844 02:18:58,709 --> 02:18:56,319 believe anyone in the military would go 3845 02:19:01,830 --> 02:18:58,719 against the constitution anybody in 3846 02:19:03,349 --> 02:19:01,840 uniform and i said to my friend listen 3847 02:19:05,270 --> 02:19:03,359 the people in the deep state i'm talking 3848 02:19:08,070 --> 02:19:05,280 about in black programs they changed 3849 02:19:09,509 --> 02:19:08,080 uniforms five times a day 3850 02:19:10,389 --> 02:19:09,519 and he said i know what you're talking 3851 02:19:11,830 --> 02:19:10,399 about 3852 02:19:12,870 --> 02:19:11,840 and so 3853 02:19:14,629 --> 02:19:12,880 you know 3854 02:19:16,709 --> 02:19:14,639 probably this is why i know a lot about 3855 02:19:19,030 --> 02:19:16,719 the military i'm passionate about the 3856 02:19:20,870 --> 02:19:19,040 history of it but 3857 02:19:22,950 --> 02:19:20,880 but you didn't want to be a part of it i 3858 02:19:24,389 --> 02:19:22,960 think subconsciously or maybe my higher 3859 02:19:27,110 --> 02:19:24,399 self was looking out for me and just 3860 02:19:29,190 --> 02:19:27,120 said yeah be a racing driver you schmuck 3861 02:19:31,349 --> 02:19:29,200 you know and and don't do that 3862 02:19:33,830 --> 02:19:31,359 and i never did and i didn't sign any of 3863 02:19:36,549 --> 02:19:33,840 those contracts 3864 02:19:39,110 --> 02:19:36,559 i i'm not sure if that's true but um i 3865 02:19:42,070 --> 02:19:39,120 would think for certain officers maybe 3866 02:19:43,910 --> 02:19:42,080 above a certain rank that might be true 3867 02:19:45,669 --> 02:19:43,920 because if you're a navy you know 3868 02:19:47,429 --> 02:19:45,679 lieutenant or a lieutenant commander or 3869 02:19:48,870 --> 02:19:47,439 whatever you're on a submarine and 3870 02:19:50,630 --> 02:19:48,880 you're dealing with classified stuff and 3871 02:19:52,309 --> 02:19:50,640 you get drunk at a bar and you talk 3872 02:19:54,710 --> 02:19:52,319 about it they might throw you in 3873 02:19:57,349 --> 02:19:54,720 leavenworth for life 3874 02:20:00,630 --> 02:19:57,359 but if you really heard that yeah yeah 3875 02:20:02,550 --> 02:20:00,640 you notice how most i think most are all 3876 02:20:04,389 --> 02:20:02,560 whistleblowers they're all enlisted 3877 02:20:06,230 --> 02:20:04,399 personnel 3878 02:20:08,389 --> 02:20:06,240 you know robert dean all these people 3879 02:20:10,309 --> 02:20:08,399 they're all enlisted 3880 02:20:12,630 --> 02:20:10,319 i can't think of one 3881 02:20:14,710 --> 02:20:12,640 officer or god forbid a general or 3882 02:20:17,830 --> 02:20:14,720 admiral who has come forward 3883 02:20:18,950 --> 02:20:17,840 not a one and maybe it's because of that 3884 02:20:20,150 --> 02:20:18,960 you know i'm 3885 02:20:21,349 --> 02:20:20,160 you know close yeah it could be i've 3886 02:20:22,950 --> 02:20:21,359 never heard of that but it wouldn't 3887 02:20:23,990 --> 02:20:22,960 surprise you do you know that there's 3888 02:20:25,830 --> 02:20:24,000 any floors 3889 02:20:28,630 --> 02:20:25,840 any in the ufo field there there were 3890 02:20:31,270 --> 02:20:28,640 former officers no not really i think 3891 02:20:33,510 --> 02:20:31,280 there was not even one 3892 02:20:35,429 --> 02:20:33,520 but colonel corso count was he an 3893 02:20:38,070 --> 02:20:35,439 enlisted officer but i don't find him 3894 02:20:39,590 --> 02:20:38,080 very credible but 3895 02:20:42,070 --> 02:20:39,600 he's very few 3896 02:20:44,230 --> 02:20:42,080 very very few it's mostly enlisted 3897 02:20:45,910 --> 02:20:44,240 personnel and i wonder it's because 3898 02:20:48,710 --> 02:20:45,920 while you're an officer you have to sign 3899 02:20:49,429 --> 02:20:48,720 10 contracts 3900 02:20:51,990 --> 02:20:49,439 so 3901 02:20:53,670 --> 02:20:52,000 that's just a tidbit i i come up on my 3902 02:20:55,110 --> 02:20:53,680 own i don't know 3903 02:20:57,110 --> 02:20:55,120 if it's true or not but it would makes 3904 02:20:59,190 --> 02:20:57,120 it does make some sense well that's a 3905 02:21:00,550 --> 02:20:59,200 somber that's a somber thought to know 3906 02:21:02,230 --> 02:21:00,560 that they could it is i mean it doesn't 3907 02:21:04,309 --> 02:21:02,240 surprise me i mean they 3908 02:21:05,510 --> 02:21:04,319 they they kill people to keep secrets 3909 02:21:07,190 --> 02:21:05,520 they're gonna do anything to keep 3910 02:21:09,030 --> 02:21:07,200 certain secrets you know everyone's like 3911 02:21:11,190 --> 02:21:09,040 oh i don't believe in that it's like god 3912 02:21:12,389 --> 02:21:11,200 this is a dirty world people i mean i've 3913 02:21:13,910 --> 02:21:12,399 seen it it 3914 02:21:16,550 --> 02:21:13,920 it's grim 3915 02:21:18,710 --> 02:21:16,560 i mean we get violent movies we're very 3916 02:21:21,510 --> 02:21:18,720 desensitized to violence you know games 3917 02:21:22,790 --> 02:21:21,520 movies tv shows all aliens and violence 3918 02:21:24,870 --> 02:21:22,800 and monsters 3919 02:21:27,349 --> 02:21:24,880 you know we're very desensitized to it 3920 02:21:28,790 --> 02:21:27,359 you know in 15 years if they disclose 3921 02:21:30,309 --> 02:21:28,800 all these horrors 3922 02:21:31,910 --> 02:21:30,319 you know it's a good chance a lot of 3923 02:21:33,429 --> 02:21:31,920 americans at least 3924 02:21:34,230 --> 02:21:33,439 because we've been programmed the most i 3925 02:21:35,590 --> 02:21:34,240 think 3926 02:21:38,389 --> 02:21:35,600 will be like 3927 02:21:42,150 --> 02:21:40,630 you know and that's it yeah 3928 02:21:44,790 --> 02:21:42,160 yeah could be because you've been you 3929 02:21:46,469 --> 02:21:44,800 know tom cruise killing the monsters and 3930 02:21:48,950 --> 02:21:46,479 you know all these sci-fi movies it's 3931 02:21:51,510 --> 02:21:48,960 all violent alien movies those are 3932 02:21:53,670 --> 02:21:51,520 horror movies they're very good 3933 02:21:55,190 --> 02:21:53,680 but they're horror movies the alien 3934 02:21:56,870 --> 02:21:55,200 franchise 3935 02:22:00,469 --> 02:21:56,880 you know star trek's not too bad but it 3936 02:22:02,469 --> 02:22:00,479 is violent star wars star wars 3937 02:22:03,750 --> 02:22:02,479 that's war yeah where's vader in his 3938 02:22:05,750 --> 02:22:03,760 minions 3939 02:22:07,190 --> 02:22:05,760 i mean come on people what are they 3940 02:22:09,510 --> 02:22:07,200 trying to tell us well it was 3941 02:22:11,670 --> 02:22:09,520 interesting that the reboot of star wars 3942 02:22:12,710 --> 02:22:11,680 the last three they really really did 3943 02:22:14,630 --> 02:22:12,720 use 3944 02:22:17,910 --> 02:22:14,640 a lot of uh 3945 02:22:19,110 --> 02:22:17,920 nazi sort of uh imagery they always have 3946 02:22:21,270 --> 02:22:19,120 but i mean yeah 3947 02:22:23,110 --> 02:22:21,280 if there are the bad guys make them look 3948 02:22:25,670 --> 02:22:23,120 like nazis you know 3949 02:22:27,030 --> 02:22:25,680 they're not trying to hide any of this 3950 02:22:28,950 --> 02:22:27,040 everyone's like i don't believe the 3951 02:22:30,309 --> 02:22:28,960 germans in space that's all nonsense you 3952 02:22:33,110 --> 02:22:30,319 know 3953 02:22:35,990 --> 02:22:33,120 look at the movies i mean yes iron sky 3954 02:22:38,469 --> 02:22:36,000 the franchise parodies it but that's 3955 02:22:40,150 --> 02:22:38,479 kind of funny but it's fun 3956 02:22:42,389 --> 02:22:40,160 my nephew and my and my grandson they're 3957 02:22:43,910 --> 02:22:42,399 like star wars star wars and i'm like my 3958 02:22:45,670 --> 02:22:43,920 god this is just you know 3959 02:22:47,030 --> 02:22:45,680 the few rebels fighting all these 3960 02:22:49,429 --> 02:22:47,040 fascists you know and they're and 3961 02:22:50,950 --> 02:22:49,439 they're hired mercenaries you know e.t 3962 02:22:52,070 --> 02:22:50,960 mercenaries 3963 02:22:54,230 --> 02:22:52,080 you know 3964 02:22:56,710 --> 02:22:54,240 it's brutal slavery they talk about 3965 02:22:59,830 --> 02:22:56,720 slavery remember uh 3966 02:23:01,349 --> 02:22:59,840 was anakin's mother and they were slaves 3967 02:23:03,429 --> 02:23:01,359 they talked yeah they were slaves and 3968 02:23:05,429 --> 02:23:03,439 then anakin killed the whole 3969 02:23:07,910 --> 02:23:05,439 all the same people he killed the whole 3970 02:23:10,309 --> 02:23:07,920 yeah all the same people genocide they 3971 02:23:12,550 --> 02:23:10,319 they touch upon 3972 02:23:15,590 --> 02:23:12,560 i think some of the realities of our our 3973 02:23:16,950 --> 02:23:15,600 world and our solar system and beyond i 3974 02:23:18,550 --> 02:23:16,960 think they're trying to really tell us 3975 02:23:20,469 --> 02:23:18,560 something with all these movies as long 3976 02:23:22,710 --> 02:23:20,479 as you don't tell us that it's basically 3977 02:23:24,710 --> 02:23:22,720 it's basically a true story like david 3978 02:23:27,190 --> 02:23:24,720 wilcock 3979 02:23:28,309 --> 02:23:27,200 george lucas got the idea of star wars i 3980 02:23:30,950 --> 02:23:28,319 believe 3981 02:23:33,510 --> 02:23:30,960 from robert morning sky 3982 02:23:36,790 --> 02:23:33,520 grandfather who wrote it down it was an 3983 02:23:39,030 --> 02:23:36,800 oral history his native american tribe 3984 02:23:40,790 --> 02:23:39,040 about this you know planet 3985 02:23:42,070 --> 02:23:40,800 killer and all these you know mean 3986 02:23:43,990 --> 02:23:42,080 people yeah i've heard something about 3987 02:23:46,710 --> 02:23:44,000 that once and george lucas took it and 3988 02:23:49,510 --> 02:23:46,720 gave him no credit 3989 02:23:51,270 --> 02:23:49,520 so george lucas can kiss my fat ass you 3990 02:23:53,590 --> 02:23:51,280 know he's an and spielberg too you know 3991 02:23:55,270 --> 02:23:53,600 people are you know he and reagan in the 3992 02:23:57,830 --> 02:23:55,280 white house with close encounters and 3993 02:24:00,469 --> 02:23:57,840 they as you take oh how you love your 3994 02:24:02,950 --> 02:24:00,479 docu drama you know i mean it was all 3995 02:24:05,030 --> 02:24:02,960 they were showing us the truth 3996 02:24:07,349 --> 02:24:05,040 it's so obvious 3997 02:24:08,710 --> 02:24:07,359 people are still debating oh but 3998 02:24:11,110 --> 02:24:08,720 really 3999 02:24:12,790 --> 02:24:11,120 what do you buy you know i mean it's 4000 02:24:15,990 --> 02:24:12,800 incredible it's all in our faces and 4001 02:24:20,550 --> 02:24:18,230 your whole the entire hollywood is 4002 02:24:23,270 --> 02:24:20,560 geared towards holler you know war and 4003 02:24:25,110 --> 02:24:23,280 sci-fi and violence 4004 02:24:27,190 --> 02:24:25,120 sure yeah 4005 02:24:29,270 --> 02:24:27,200 it's you know this stuff is you know 4006 02:24:30,870 --> 02:24:29,280 we're not all crazy making this stuff up 4007 02:24:32,790 --> 02:24:30,880 it's in our faces 4008 02:24:34,230 --> 02:24:32,800 it's it's incredibly obvious everyone in 4009 02:24:36,230 --> 02:24:34,240 hollywood and cia they're like god 4010 02:24:37,750 --> 02:24:36,240 they're finally getting it those idiots 4011 02:24:40,150 --> 02:24:37,760 we've been trying to tell them for 50 4012 02:24:41,750 --> 02:24:40,160 years well a lot of people think that 4013 02:24:44,630 --> 02:24:41,760 that that some of this hollywood stuff 4014 02:24:47,910 --> 02:24:44,640 is is is designed to acclimate us to the 4015 02:24:49,750 --> 02:24:47,920 idea right the first movie the story 4016 02:24:52,230 --> 02:24:49,760 goes the first movie that the cia and 4017 02:24:55,349 --> 02:24:52,240 the u.s military cobbled together was in 4018 02:24:56,950 --> 02:24:55,359 1950 the day the earth stood still yeah 4019 02:25:00,070 --> 02:24:56,960 and that was a movie about aliens coming 4020 02:25:01,830 --> 02:25:00,080 to visit and yeah the aliens the e.t 4021 02:25:03,270 --> 02:25:01,840 says you've got to get your [\h__\h] 4022 02:25:05,429 --> 02:25:03,280 together and clean the environment and 4023 02:25:07,349 --> 02:25:05,439 stop doing all this nuclear stuff 4024 02:25:08,790 --> 02:25:07,359 and that's been the 18 and you know 4025 02:25:11,750 --> 02:25:08,800 that's an obvious 4026 02:25:13,270 --> 02:25:11,760 good narrative and after that it just 4027 02:25:15,110 --> 02:25:13,280 sort of went downhill 4028 02:25:16,630 --> 02:25:15,120 in monster movies in the 50s flying 4029 02:25:18,790 --> 02:25:16,640 saucer mania 4030 02:25:20,710 --> 02:25:18,800 i love those old 50s sci-fi movies 4031 02:25:21,990 --> 02:25:20,720 though 4032 02:25:26,309 --> 02:25:22,000 i love 4033 02:25:28,710 --> 02:25:26,319 also the military you know 4034 02:25:30,389 --> 02:25:28,720 all male military saucer lands and 4035 02:25:31,990 --> 02:25:30,399 they're like well we'll blow it all up 4036 02:25:33,670 --> 02:25:32,000 they blow it all up 4037 02:25:35,750 --> 02:25:33,680 but in reality they wouldn't they would 4038 02:25:37,429 --> 02:25:35,760 have had more saucers and more military 4039 02:25:40,230 --> 02:25:37,439 men come in and capture all that 4040 02:25:42,150 --> 02:25:40,240 underground technology on the planet 4041 02:25:44,710 --> 02:25:42,160 that would have been the real story and 4042 02:25:45,990 --> 02:25:44,720 said well we better blow it up you know 4043 02:25:49,110 --> 02:25:46,000 no they would have they would have 4044 02:25:50,950 --> 02:25:49,120 co-opted that technology too sweet 4045 02:25:54,309 --> 02:25:50,960 and that's what that we do now i mean 4046 02:25:57,510 --> 02:25:54,319 you know a crash-landed ufo apparently 4047 02:26:01,110 --> 02:25:57,520 we have so many uh crashes ufos and 4048 02:26:03,429 --> 02:26:01,120 trade goods you know ufo spare parts and 4049 02:26:05,349 --> 02:26:03,439 med bed components or whatever 4050 02:26:07,110 --> 02:26:05,359 and we turn it away 4051 02:26:09,110 --> 02:26:07,120 because it's like oh we've got 4052 02:26:10,150 --> 02:26:09,120 warehouses full of that come back you 4053 02:26:14,870 --> 02:26:10,160 know 4054 02:26:16,550 --> 02:26:14,880 good 4055 02:26:19,510 --> 02:26:16,560 we already have that 4056 02:26:21,349 --> 02:26:19,520 yeah surplus of technology 4057 02:26:22,790 --> 02:26:21,359 yeah well you got to come back you have 4058 02:26:24,550 --> 02:26:22,800 to come back sometime and we'll just 4059 02:26:26,389 --> 02:26:24,560 talk about ufo crash retrievals because 4060 02:26:29,670 --> 02:26:26,399 i got a huge file of stuff and we could 4061 02:26:31,510 --> 02:26:29,680 go through my files compare your files 4062 02:26:34,070 --> 02:26:31,520 i got to tell you that everybody in the 4063 02:26:36,469 --> 02:26:34,080 live chat is 4064 02:26:38,630 --> 02:26:36,479 oh well i think you have an encyclopedia 4065 02:26:39,990 --> 02:26:38,640 do you you have so much notes my notes 4066 02:26:41,990 --> 02:26:40,000 are only oh but you have somewhat of a 4067 02:26:43,750 --> 02:26:42,000 photographic memory or something because 4068 02:26:46,550 --> 02:26:43,760 you i do i do 4069 02:26:48,630 --> 02:26:46,560 but um all my notes are on my website in 4070 02:26:50,790 --> 02:26:48,640 pdf format 4071 02:26:53,510 --> 02:26:50,800 go to john w warner the fourth author 4072 02:26:54,710 --> 02:26:53,520 and and go to research and all my notes 4073 02:26:57,990 --> 02:26:54,720 are there 4074 02:26:58,790 --> 02:26:58,000 i'm working on 20 21 finishing up 2021 4075 02:27:01,030 --> 02:26:58,800 now 4076 02:27:02,790 --> 02:27:01,040 and i'll post it it's just random notes 4077 02:27:04,790 --> 02:27:02,800 not my you know not my opinions on 4078 02:27:07,510 --> 02:27:04,800 anything really yeah i will share that 4079 02:27:09,990 --> 02:27:07,520 uh i will put i'm a bad show host i will 4080 02:27:12,070 --> 02:27:10,000 share your you have a website and i have 4081 02:27:13,910 --> 02:27:12,080 it here uh and i went there and make 4082 02:27:15,110 --> 02:27:13,920 sure i'm an open book you know i'm an 4083 02:27:17,270 --> 02:27:15,120 open book 4084 02:27:19,429 --> 02:27:17,280 yeah you know what's funny is i started 4085 02:27:21,030 --> 02:27:19,439 re i started seeing you on all of these 4086 02:27:23,110 --> 02:27:21,040 on all these shows and listening to your 4087 02:27:24,710 --> 02:27:23,120 interviews and finding you fascinating 4088 02:27:26,469 --> 02:27:24,720 and then i followed you on twitter and i 4089 02:27:27,910 --> 02:27:26,479 i think i tweeted at you or sent me a 4090 02:27:29,590 --> 02:27:27,920 message and i was like shocked i'm like 4091 02:27:31,590 --> 02:27:29,600 wow this guy said something back to me 4092 02:27:33,349 --> 02:27:31,600 that's amazing but you're very you're 4093 02:27:35,110 --> 02:27:33,359 you're not like some rich prick that 4094 02:27:37,510 --> 02:27:35,120 doesn't you know 4095 02:27:39,270 --> 02:27:37,520 correct i'm a rich person i know you 4096 02:27:41,910 --> 02:27:39,280 talk to everybody and you're right i 4097 02:27:43,750 --> 02:27:41,920 enjoy everyone's opinions my dad my dad 4098 02:27:46,070 --> 02:27:43,760 was like that liz taylor was like that 4099 02:27:49,030 --> 02:27:46,080 they they were people persons and so 4100 02:27:51,190 --> 02:27:49,040 they you know i got my love of of people 4101 02:27:53,750 --> 02:27:51,200 a lot of my friends are blue collar 4102 02:27:55,349 --> 02:27:53,760 middle class you know a lot of old car 4103 02:27:57,429 --> 02:27:55,359 nuts you know 4104 02:27:59,910 --> 02:27:57,439 but you know 4105 02:28:01,990 --> 02:27:59,920 rich people don't have time 4106 02:28:04,150 --> 02:28:02,000 they don't they don't have time all my 4107 02:28:06,070 --> 02:28:04,160 rich friends they don't have time for me 4108 02:28:08,469 --> 02:28:06,080 or my wife 4109 02:28:09,510 --> 02:28:08,479 they don't they're lost they're lost 4110 02:28:12,790 --> 02:28:09,520 like yeah i don't want to talk about 4111 02:28:16,469 --> 02:28:15,670 but you know i find i find people that 4112 02:28:19,590 --> 02:28:16,479 aren't 4113 02:28:21,429 --> 02:28:19,600 mega rich i find them just as or more 4114 02:28:23,670 --> 02:28:21,439 interesting because they don't put on 4115 02:28:25,750 --> 02:28:23,680 airs they're like oh well i've got to go 4116 02:28:27,830 --> 02:28:25,760 you know to paris and to pick up my 4117 02:28:28,710 --> 02:28:27,840 hamburger you know they don't do that 4118 02:28:30,790 --> 02:28:28,720 and 4119 02:28:32,630 --> 02:28:30,800 you know 4120 02:28:34,790 --> 02:28:32,640 but you can sit down with these veterans 4121 02:28:36,469 --> 02:28:34,800 or you know people that i i meet and i 4122 02:28:38,950 --> 02:28:36,479 know all the time and they're very 4123 02:28:40,950 --> 02:28:38,960 interesting people and i've always been 4124 02:28:43,429 --> 02:28:40,960 that way you know growing up i didn't 4125 02:28:45,590 --> 02:28:43,439 have just risk friends i i grew up in dc 4126 02:28:47,670 --> 02:28:45,600 half my friends were black and they were 4127 02:28:49,429 --> 02:28:47,680 you know they weren't wealthy or 4128 02:28:51,349 --> 02:28:49,439 i had a few wealthy friends but most of 4129 02:28:53,110 --> 02:28:51,359 my friends were just you know 4130 02:28:54,870 --> 02:28:53,120 middle class upper middle class or lower 4131 02:28:56,630 --> 02:28:54,880 class i mean i yeah i don't know i grew 4132 02:28:57,990 --> 02:28:56,640 up poor and we hated all those we 4133 02:28:59,110 --> 02:28:58,000 thought people that lived in no blame 4134 02:29:00,710 --> 02:28:59,120 these women 4135 02:29:03,190 --> 02:29:00,720 we thought those kids were ripped they 4136 02:29:04,790 --> 02:29:03,200 got a pool what are you kidding me they 4137 02:29:06,870 --> 02:29:04,800 got their own pool in their backyard 4138 02:29:08,230 --> 02:29:06,880 these rich pricks we hated them and i 4139 02:29:09,670 --> 02:29:08,240 was in wrestling and we used to love 4140 02:29:11,270 --> 02:29:09,680 going to the rich neighborhoods because 4141 02:29:14,630 --> 02:29:11,280 we couldn't believe the size of their 4142 02:29:16,710 --> 02:29:14,640 stadium kind of places and the resources 4143 02:29:19,190 --> 02:29:16,720 they had but the funny thing is now my 4144 02:29:21,990 --> 02:29:19,200 kids are suburban kids in a very i would 4145 02:29:22,870 --> 02:29:22,000 say wealthy affluent area and so you 4146 02:29:24,710 --> 02:29:22,880 know 4147 02:29:26,710 --> 02:29:24,720 i want to drive him back to the hood 4148 02:29:27,670 --> 02:29:26,720 someday and say this is where daddy grew 4149 02:29:29,030 --> 02:29:27,680 up 4150 02:29:31,190 --> 02:29:29,040 you know that's 4151 02:29:33,670 --> 02:29:31,200 part of the control system of earth 4152 02:29:36,630 --> 02:29:33,680 you've got religions you've got wars 4153 02:29:39,270 --> 02:29:36,640 militaries police governments 4154 02:29:41,670 --> 02:29:39,280 uh you also have racism and the caste 4155 02:29:42,950 --> 02:29:41,680 system to keep people fighting and angry 4156 02:29:44,550 --> 02:29:42,960 at one another 4157 02:29:47,190 --> 02:29:44,560 you know if we all got together if you 4158 02:29:49,270 --> 02:29:47,200 if you picked a random 500 people yes 4159 02:29:52,230 --> 02:29:49,280 divide and conquer yeah 4160 02:29:54,790 --> 02:29:52,240 and put us in a in a big room after a 4161 02:29:56,550 --> 02:29:54,800 week most of us would be good friends 4162 02:29:57,750 --> 02:29:56,560 because it's like wow i didn't realize 4163 02:29:59,990 --> 02:29:57,760 you know you poor people you know i 4164 02:30:02,469 --> 02:30:00,000 don't hate you and all you rich pricks 4165 02:30:03,349 --> 02:30:02,479 aren't all that much pricky you know 4166 02:30:05,510 --> 02:30:03,359 something 4167 02:30:07,830 --> 02:30:05,520 yeah i told you i had my revelation i 4168 02:30:11,349 --> 02:30:07,840 was very fortunate in that i had a very 4169 02:30:13,349 --> 02:30:11,359 great senior person mentor me that that 4170 02:30:15,110 --> 02:30:13,359 changed my life because he didn't have 4171 02:30:17,270 --> 02:30:15,120 to take the time to mentor me about 4172 02:30:19,990 --> 02:30:17,280 business and how to be successful how to 4173 02:30:21,830 --> 02:30:20,000 get things done yeah it really helped me 4174 02:30:24,710 --> 02:30:21,840 so then after that i went i got to give 4175 02:30:26,150 --> 02:30:24,720 everybody a chance pix has a very 4176 02:30:28,070 --> 02:30:26,160 important question that he really wants 4177 02:30:30,710 --> 02:30:28,080 you to answer and i think i understand 4178 02:30:33,190 --> 02:30:30,720 it he says what one thing should we all 4179 02:30:34,550 --> 02:30:33,200 know or do you want to share john 4180 02:30:36,550 --> 02:30:34,560 is there something important that you 4181 02:30:38,150 --> 02:30:36,560 want us all to know 4182 02:30:39,670 --> 02:30:38,160 or that you want to share 4183 02:30:41,990 --> 02:30:39,680 um 4184 02:30:44,070 --> 02:30:42,000 that despite our our caste systems and 4185 02:30:46,230 --> 02:30:44,080 and racial tensions you know we're all 4186 02:30:49,030 --> 02:30:46,240 equals in fact we're all it's said we're 4187 02:30:52,150 --> 02:30:49,040 all equals in the cosmos everyone 4188 02:30:55,030 --> 02:30:52,160 it's just the illusion of separation 4189 02:30:57,270 --> 02:30:55,040 and that one person or one race is 4190 02:30:59,750 --> 02:30:57,280 better than the other you know our 4191 02:31:01,750 --> 02:30:59,760 overlords that's all an illusion you 4192 02:31:03,270 --> 02:31:01,760 know i've seen this 4193 02:31:05,349 --> 02:31:03,280 different groups of people from all 4194 02:31:08,790 --> 02:31:05,359 classes and races come together 4195 02:31:10,469 --> 02:31:08,800 at events and functions and you know 4196 02:31:12,230 --> 02:31:10,479 i've had people say wow you know those 4197 02:31:15,750 --> 02:31:12,240 guys weren't the [\h__\h] i i was 4198 02:31:18,389 --> 02:31:15,760 thinking it's it's all gerrymandered and 4199 02:31:19,670 --> 02:31:18,399 constructed you know race wars 4200 02:31:22,070 --> 02:31:19,680 inequality 4201 02:31:24,389 --> 02:31:22,080 you know all that it's all 4202 02:31:26,469 --> 02:31:24,399 it's all you know from above 4203 02:31:29,110 --> 02:31:26,479 the whole control system of the world is 4204 02:31:31,429 --> 02:31:29,120 like that it's they foment that isn't it 4205 02:31:33,190 --> 02:31:31,439 convenient that the cop killed another 4206 02:31:35,030 --> 02:31:33,200 person in chicago 4207 02:31:37,670 --> 02:31:35,040 whenever they want to rile people up and 4208 02:31:38,550 --> 02:31:37,680 distract them from something 4209 02:31:40,790 --> 02:31:38,560 yeah 4210 02:31:42,550 --> 02:31:40,800 i hated to see george floyd die i think 4211 02:31:44,870 --> 02:31:42,560 that cop was a psychopath 4212 02:31:47,030 --> 02:31:44,880 but how easy is it to you know most cops 4213 02:31:49,190 --> 02:31:47,040 are good people and the twenty percent a 4214 02:31:51,030 --> 02:31:49,200 little shady but you know somebody who 4215 02:31:53,670 --> 02:31:51,040 needs money pay him a hundred grand your 4216 02:31:55,670 --> 02:31:53,680 family's set for life or whatever 4217 02:31:57,990 --> 02:31:55,680 you go to prison for killing somebody 4218 02:32:00,710 --> 02:31:58,000 that we want dead and look what happens 4219 02:32:03,670 --> 02:32:00,720 race riots and burnings and and all 4220 02:32:05,590 --> 02:32:03,680 these things that's a very easy way 4221 02:32:08,230 --> 02:32:05,600 to foment dissent 4222 02:32:09,910 --> 02:32:08,240 to distract people from this that or the 4223 02:32:11,190 --> 02:32:09,920 other that they don't want you to focus 4224 02:32:12,230 --> 02:32:11,200 on 4225 02:32:15,670 --> 02:32:12,240 that's 4226 02:32:17,670 --> 02:32:15,680 i wish everyone understood that how easy 4227 02:32:18,710 --> 02:32:17,680 it is to do that 4228 02:32:24,630 --> 02:32:18,720 it's 4229 02:32:26,469 --> 02:32:24,640 i am a terrible show host so right now 4230 02:32:28,710 --> 02:32:26,479 i'm putting uh i'm putting the link to 4231 02:32:29,670 --> 02:32:28,720 your website and the link to buy your 4232 02:32:31,590 --> 02:32:29,680 book 4233 02:32:34,309 --> 02:32:31,600 in the description of this video so if 4234 02:32:36,469 --> 02:32:34,319 you're interested in john and uh want to 4235 02:32:38,309 --> 02:32:36,479 get his book or visit his website the 4236 02:32:41,030 --> 02:32:38,319 links will be in the description to be 4237 02:32:42,309 --> 02:32:41,040 able to do that yeah and i think 4238 02:32:44,950 --> 02:32:42,319 is a good read 4239 02:32:46,790 --> 02:32:44,960 the first book little anton is too long 4240 02:32:49,030 --> 02:32:46,800 for most people but the second book is 4241 02:32:50,630 --> 02:32:49,040 exciting and fast-paced so 4242 02:32:52,790 --> 02:32:50,640 um i don't think it's i don't think it 4243 02:32:55,349 --> 02:32:52,800 was too long i think it's uh some people 4244 02:32:56,550 --> 02:32:55,359 do but most most do it you could skim 4245 02:32:58,950 --> 02:32:56,560 through it and then just go to book 4246 02:33:00,230 --> 02:32:58,960 three of little anton but lion tiger 4247 02:33:03,429 --> 02:33:00,240 bear it's 4248 02:33:04,790 --> 02:33:03,439 i mean i wrote that my wife read it in 4249 02:33:06,469 --> 02:33:04,800 two days 4250 02:33:10,550 --> 02:33:06,479 oh that's interesting and it took her 4251 02:33:14,550 --> 02:33:12,790 that has to be terrible for her right my 4252 02:33:15,990 --> 02:33:14,560 wife's the same way like i write music 4253 02:33:17,670 --> 02:33:16,000 and sometimes i say here listen to these 4254 02:33:20,550 --> 02:33:17,680 songs and she doesn't or she doesn't 4255 02:33:22,309 --> 02:33:20,560 have time or you know 4256 02:33:24,630 --> 02:33:22,319 my wife same thing read this book and 4257 02:33:27,270 --> 02:33:24,640 your wife's like oh no i never read this 4258 02:33:29,110 --> 02:33:27,280 whole thing right she sneaks onto my 4259 02:33:31,910 --> 02:33:29,120 laptop to read chapters because i don't 4260 02:33:33,349 --> 02:33:31,920 know oh there you go read so she's very 4261 02:33:34,630 --> 02:33:33,359 sneaky that way 4262 02:33:36,790 --> 02:33:34,640 um 4263 02:33:39,030 --> 02:33:36,800 no she got very interested by the time i 4264 02:33:40,469 --> 02:33:39,040 finished the first one and now she's 4265 02:33:42,870 --> 02:33:40,479 she wants to read everything i write but 4266 02:33:44,870 --> 02:33:42,880 i don't want to ruin the story for her 4267 02:33:46,790 --> 02:33:44,880 that reminds me of a really that reminds 4268 02:33:49,110 --> 02:33:46,800 me a really funny joke john i have a 4269 02:33:50,710 --> 02:33:49,120 friend whose wife snoops in all his 4270 02:33:52,469 --> 02:33:50,720 computers right 4271 02:33:54,550 --> 02:33:52,479 she snoops she wants to know what he's 4272 02:33:57,190 --> 02:33:54,560 looking up what he's doing who he's 4273 02:33:59,910 --> 02:33:57,200 talking to so you know what he did 4274 02:34:01,830 --> 02:33:59,920 no this is great he he started uh he 4275 02:34:06,710 --> 02:34:01,840 started searching how to tell your wife 4276 02:34:11,349 --> 02:34:08,950 that's awesome so she goes to his mouth 4277 02:34:13,349 --> 02:34:11,359 i knew you would end on something wrong 4278 02:34:15,510 --> 02:34:13,359 something wrong yeah we have to keep the 4279 02:34:16,870 --> 02:34:15,520 shock value here thank you jessie singer 4280 02:34:19,349 --> 02:34:16,880 for your kindness your generosity and 4281 02:34:20,870 --> 02:34:19,359 support and thank all of you and uh we 4282 02:34:22,630 --> 02:34:20,880 have picks of the kind and generous five 4283 02:34:24,790 --> 02:34:22,640 dollars super chat and al warrior the 4284 02:34:26,950 --> 02:34:24,800 kind of generous five dollars space 4285 02:34:28,710 --> 02:34:26,960 exposure great show stephen mr warner is 4286 02:34:30,790 --> 02:34:28,720 very informed an interesting guest i 4287 02:34:32,150 --> 02:34:30,800 can't disagree with you thank you all 4288 02:34:33,990 --> 02:34:32,160 for your kindness your generosity and 4289 02:34:35,910 --> 02:34:34,000 support and especially thanks to our 4290 02:34:37,110 --> 02:34:35,920 guest tonight which i i hope you're 4291 02:34:38,630 --> 02:34:37,120 gonna come back because you're gonna 4292 02:34:40,389 --> 02:34:38,640 i'll tell you right now people are gonna 4293 02:34:42,070 --> 02:34:40,399 bug me to bring you back because 4294 02:34:45,510 --> 02:34:42,080 everybody's still got on 4295 02:34:47,349 --> 02:34:45,520 a hundred more questions right 4296 02:34:48,870 --> 02:34:47,359 i might have to 4297 02:34:50,150 --> 02:34:48,880 start drinking heavily again or 4298 02:34:52,469 --> 02:34:50,160 something 4299 02:34:54,630 --> 02:34:52,479 i don't blame you but i'm gonna i'm 4300 02:34:56,950 --> 02:34:54,640 gonna thank you for your time and and 4301 02:34:58,710 --> 02:34:56,960 and your uh and your interest in these 4302 02:34:59,910 --> 02:34:58,720 subjects because i love somebody like 4303 02:35:02,150 --> 02:34:59,920 you with all of your military 4304 02:35:03,670 --> 02:35:02,160 connections and family background and 4305 02:35:04,870 --> 02:35:03,680 all the people you know looking into 4306 02:35:07,030 --> 02:35:04,880 this thing and i hope you'll keep 4307 02:35:08,469 --> 02:35:07,040 looking into it and i hope you'll come 4308 02:35:10,230 --> 02:35:08,479 back soon 4309 02:35:11,670 --> 02:35:10,240 all right man all right you have a good 4310 02:35:14,790 --> 02:35:11,680 night thank you very much for your time 4311 02:35:17,590 --> 02:35:14,800 mr warner it was a pleasure thank you 4312 02:35:19,510 --> 02:35:17,600 all right boy what an amazing look my 4313 02:35:21,590 --> 02:35:19,520 lights timed out that's how long we were 4314 02:35:23,349 --> 02:35:21,600 here and i apologize to mr warner i 4315 02:35:25,990 --> 02:35:23,359 didn't realize that we had gone so far 4316 02:35:28,469 --> 02:35:26,000 over time we went way into overtime 4317 02:35:31,429 --> 02:35:28,479 tonight but that's okay 4318 02:35:33,110 --> 02:35:31,439 uh he survived and and i'm sure that uh 4319 02:35:35,590 --> 02:35:33,120 i will as well 4320 02:35:37,030 --> 02:35:35,600 so what can i say friends uh okay i'm 4321 02:35:39,510 --> 02:35:37,040 gonna take a few more comments and 4322 02:35:41,590 --> 02:35:39,520 questions we're coming up on three hours 4323 02:35:43,830 --> 02:35:41,600 almost here kate schneider says great 4324 02:35:46,150 --> 02:35:43,840 interview interesting stuff i agree paul 4325 02:35:47,670 --> 02:35:46,160 cargo says nice job stephen oh and i 4326 02:35:49,510 --> 02:35:47,680 just want to mention for the benefit of 4327 02:35:51,990 --> 02:35:49,520 anybody just joining us 4328 02:35:54,630 --> 02:35:52,000 or who only saw the interview 4329 02:35:56,710 --> 02:35:54,640 i was supposed to do like uh i was 4330 02:35:58,870 --> 02:35:56,720 supposed to come on and tell you all 4331 02:36:01,270 --> 02:35:58,880 about his family his family's history 4332 02:36:03,830 --> 02:36:01,280 his father he's got an amazing father 4333 02:36:06,790 --> 02:36:03,840 amazing history of his family and i did 4334 02:36:08,230 --> 02:36:06,800 that on the on the part one because what 4335 02:36:10,070 --> 02:36:08,240 happened for those that don't know is 4336 02:36:10,870 --> 02:36:10,080 that i screwed up and it's totally my 4337 02:36:11,750 --> 02:36:10,880 fault 4338 02:36:16,389 --> 02:36:11,760 i 4339 02:36:18,230 --> 02:36:16,399 and so 4340 02:36:21,110 --> 02:36:18,240 john was looking but i had previously 4341 02:36:22,870 --> 02:36:21,120 spoken to john through twitter dms so 4342 02:36:25,349 --> 02:36:22,880 when it came time to do the interview i 4343 02:36:27,110 --> 02:36:25,359 just sent him everything through twitter 4344 02:36:28,950 --> 02:36:27,120 and he didn't look at twitter and i 4345 02:36:30,230 --> 02:36:28,960 didn't look at my email because i was 4346 02:36:32,150 --> 02:36:30,240 trying to communicate with him through 4347 02:36:34,150 --> 02:36:32,160 twitter anyway totally my fault he 4348 02:36:36,630 --> 02:36:34,160 didn't show up at the time well it's not 4349 02:36:38,870 --> 02:36:36,640 that he didn't show up he didn't get the 4350 02:36:41,429 --> 02:36:38,880 link to join the interview at 7pm 4351 02:36:43,429 --> 02:36:41,439 earlier eastern time tonight so what i 4352 02:36:45,910 --> 02:36:43,439 did is start telling the whole story of 4353 02:36:48,389 --> 02:36:45,920 his background and his interest in nazi 4354 02:36:50,150 --> 02:36:48,399 ufos and all these strange esoteric 4355 02:36:52,230 --> 02:36:50,160 conspiracy land topics and all that 4356 02:36:54,630 --> 02:36:52,240 stuff and then i gave some uh 4357 02:36:55,830 --> 02:36:54,640 information about his current book 4358 02:36:57,910 --> 02:36:55,840 and 4359 02:37:00,230 --> 02:36:57,920 a lot of historical information about 4360 02:37:02,550 --> 02:37:00,240 his father because i i just find him and 4361 02:37:04,630 --> 02:37:02,560 his family to be fascinating like i said 4362 02:37:05,750 --> 02:37:04,640 i'm a student of history i'm a big fan 4363 02:37:08,070 --> 02:37:05,760 of history 4364 02:37:11,110 --> 02:37:08,080 and john and his family have been at the 4365 02:37:12,070 --> 02:37:11,120 crossroads of so many amazing historical 4366 02:37:14,230 --> 02:37:12,080 stuff 4367 02:37:16,950 --> 02:37:14,240 uh his father worked for richard nixon 4368 02:37:18,469 --> 02:37:16,960 his father knew his grandfather knew 4369 02:37:21,190 --> 02:37:18,479 general patton 4370 02:37:23,590 --> 02:37:21,200 and was heavily involved in world war ii 4371 02:37:25,510 --> 02:37:23,600 and all of these things and project 4372 02:37:28,710 --> 02:37:25,520 paper clip his grandfather was involved 4373 02:37:30,630 --> 02:37:28,720 in his father was also a senator and had 4374 02:37:33,110 --> 02:37:30,640 some involvement with roe versus wade 4375 02:37:36,950 --> 02:37:33,120 and there's all of these weird 4376 02:37:39,349 --> 02:37:36,960 historical crossroads and and major 4377 02:37:41,590 --> 02:37:39,359 parts of history right 4378 02:37:44,070 --> 02:37:41,600 and his family was involved in all of 4379 02:37:45,910 --> 02:37:44,080 this stuff so to me it's just 4380 02:37:47,349 --> 02:37:45,920 fascinating to read about this stuff and 4381 02:37:49,030 --> 02:37:47,359 every time i think 4382 02:37:50,469 --> 02:37:49,040 wow yeah he's got it yeah he's got an 4383 02:37:52,630 --> 02:37:50,479 interesting family then i find out 4384 02:37:54,550 --> 02:37:52,640 something else about his family that's 4385 02:37:56,630 --> 02:37:54,560 crazy and interesting like his father 4386 02:37:57,750 --> 02:37:56,640 was at one time married to elizabeth 4387 02:38:00,070 --> 02:37:57,760 taylor 4388 02:38:02,950 --> 02:38:00,080 and that's amazing 4389 02:38:04,870 --> 02:38:02,960 so a really interesting guy 4390 02:38:07,030 --> 02:38:04,880 now i get that there are some people in 4391 02:38:08,070 --> 02:38:07,040 the chat that were like oh blah blah 4392 02:38:11,110 --> 02:38:08,080 blah 4393 02:38:13,429 --> 02:38:11,120 uh we talked in rapid fire succession 4394 02:38:15,670 --> 02:38:13,439 about a hundred different things tonight 4395 02:38:17,990 --> 02:38:15,680 and do i agree with everything that john 4396 02:38:20,630 --> 02:38:18,000 believes no but i believe that we can be 4397 02:38:23,349 --> 02:38:20,640 respectful towards each other and i can 4398 02:38:24,870 --> 02:38:23,359 respect his beliefs and not you know i 4399 02:38:27,110 --> 02:38:24,880 try to jump in and say i don't think 4400 02:38:29,030 --> 02:38:27,120 that's credible here's why but you know 4401 02:38:30,469 --> 02:38:29,040 after a while you kind of go i'm not 4402 02:38:31,590 --> 02:38:30,479 going to keep saying that or repeating 4403 02:38:33,190 --> 02:38:31,600 myself 4404 02:38:35,349 --> 02:38:33,200 there are some things that he believes 4405 02:38:37,110 --> 02:38:35,359 that i don't believe i don't think some 4406 02:38:40,630 --> 02:38:37,120 of the stuff you know 4407 02:38:43,349 --> 02:38:40,640 uh pans out but i agree with him his 4408 02:38:46,309 --> 02:38:43,359 his sort of methodology is to listen to 4409 02:38:47,270 --> 02:38:46,319 everyone to take it all in 4410 02:38:50,230 --> 02:38:47,280 and then 4411 02:38:52,870 --> 02:38:50,240 make his own determinations about 4412 02:38:54,870 --> 02:38:52,880 what the bigger picture is 4413 02:38:57,110 --> 02:38:54,880 and i think there's probably some value 4414 02:38:58,790 --> 02:38:57,120 in that and i got to tell you 4415 02:39:01,590 --> 02:38:58,800 um 4416 02:39:03,349 --> 02:39:01,600 i have sort of stalked him i would be 4417 02:39:05,750 --> 02:39:03,359 honest with you i listened to every 4418 02:39:07,750 --> 02:39:05,760 interview that i could hear him do 4419 02:39:09,830 --> 02:39:07,760 first came on my radar with the steven 4420 02:39:11,990 --> 02:39:09,840 greer film and even though i i'm not a 4421 02:39:13,510 --> 02:39:12,000 fan of steven greer i don't l i somebody 4422 02:39:15,190 --> 02:39:13,520 said i hate him and i think hate is a 4423 02:39:17,590 --> 02:39:15,200 very strong word 4424 02:39:19,270 --> 02:39:17,600 i would say that it is more accurate to 4425 02:39:23,110 --> 02:39:19,280 say i am 4426 02:39:25,349 --> 02:39:23,120 i dislike and distrust stephen greer 4427 02:39:26,950 --> 02:39:25,359 but i first found john through stephen 4428 02:39:29,349 --> 02:39:26,960 greer's uh 4429 02:39:30,630 --> 02:39:29,359 documentary and i went john ward why 4430 02:39:32,710 --> 02:39:30,640 does that name sound familiar who is 4431 02:39:34,309 --> 02:39:32,720 this guy so i looked him up 4432 02:39:36,309 --> 02:39:34,319 and i gotta say even though i don't 4433 02:39:37,830 --> 02:39:36,319 really care for steven greer i liked 4434 02:39:40,070 --> 02:39:37,840 what he was talking about in that 4435 02:39:42,309 --> 02:39:40,080 documentary so i went and 4436 02:39:44,710 --> 02:39:42,319 did my rabbit hole research who is this 4437 02:39:47,110 --> 02:39:44,720 guy and then oh my gosh look at who his 4438 02:39:48,870 --> 02:39:47,120 dad was oh my gosh he's christopher 4439 02:39:51,510 --> 02:39:48,880 millen's cousin right 4440 02:39:53,429 --> 02:39:51,520 just all these weird things and uh i 4441 02:39:55,830 --> 02:39:53,439 don't know i found him fascinating so i 4442 02:39:57,590 --> 02:39:55,840 started listening to every 4443 02:40:00,150 --> 02:39:57,600 every interview that he's ever done that 4444 02:40:02,469 --> 02:40:00,160 i could find on the internet 4445 02:40:04,790 --> 02:40:02,479 and uh like i said i disagree with some 4446 02:40:06,630 --> 02:40:04,800 of the things he believes two people 4447 02:40:08,950 --> 02:40:06,640 even if they're intensely he and i are 4448 02:40:11,830 --> 02:40:08,960 intensely interested in some of the same 4449 02:40:14,230 --> 02:40:11,840 exact things especially nazi technology 4450 02:40:16,469 --> 02:40:14,240 and hidden history and revisionist 4451 02:40:17,910 --> 02:40:16,479 history right and conspiracies and all 4452 02:40:19,990 --> 02:40:17,920 these things but we're not going to 4453 02:40:21,750 --> 02:40:20,000 agree on everything and some things that 4454 02:40:24,070 --> 02:40:21,760 i'm sure that some things that i think 4455 02:40:26,070 --> 02:40:24,080 are true and real incredible he doesn't 4456 02:40:28,070 --> 02:40:26,080 believe and vice versa 4457 02:40:32,630 --> 02:40:28,080 uh 4458 02:40:34,790 --> 02:40:32,640 here we go see 4459 02:40:36,710 --> 02:40:34,800 leave it to picks says you gave him a 4460 02:40:38,150 --> 02:40:36,720 pass on good john's approach to take it 4461 02:40:39,670 --> 02:40:38,160 all in is exactly what i have been 4462 02:40:42,710 --> 02:40:39,680 trying to share with you no stephen you 4463 02:40:44,630 --> 02:40:42,720 hate grier own it no i dislike them i i 4464 02:40:46,550 --> 02:40:44,640 try not to hate anybody pics because 4465 02:40:49,510 --> 02:40:46,560 hate requires energy you know what i 4466 02:40:51,590 --> 02:40:49,520 prefer to do i for i prefer to either 4467 02:40:53,750 --> 02:40:51,600 dislike which requires just a little bit 4468 02:40:56,230 --> 02:40:53,760 of energy like hey you gotta really put 4469 02:40:57,750 --> 02:40:56,240 the energy into hate somebody like i 4470 02:40:58,550 --> 02:40:57,760 hate that 4471 02:41:00,950 --> 02:40:58,560 you know 4472 02:41:02,469 --> 02:41:00,960 dislike is like i just don't like them 4473 02:41:04,469 --> 02:41:02,479 right it doesn't require very much 4474 02:41:06,550 --> 02:41:04,479 energy to not like somebody 4475 02:41:08,309 --> 02:41:06,560 ideally 4476 02:41:11,349 --> 02:41:08,319 if i 4477 02:41:13,269 --> 02:41:11,359 say 4478 02:41:14,630 --> 02:41:13,279 that the best thing for me to do and 4479 02:41:17,269 --> 02:41:14,640 somebody taught me this when i was very 4480 02:41:20,150 --> 02:41:17,279 young is don't hate somebody 4481 02:41:23,110 --> 02:41:20,160 don't dislike them be apathetic 4482 02:41:24,469 --> 02:41:23,120 because apathy requires zero energy you 4483 02:41:25,510 --> 02:41:24,479 just don't care 4484 02:41:27,670 --> 02:41:25,520 uh 4485 02:41:30,710 --> 02:41:27,680 but i do care so i suppose i will use 4486 02:41:33,190 --> 02:41:30,720 the word dislike right 4487 02:41:35,030 --> 02:41:33,200 in the case of greer my point being i'm 4488 02:41:37,510 --> 02:41:35,040 sure there's things and i i don't know 4489 02:41:38,950 --> 02:41:37,520 that i gave him a pass on good my take 4490 02:41:40,870 --> 02:41:38,960 having heard all of his interviews is 4491 02:41:42,550 --> 02:41:40,880 that he doesn't believe good and thinks 4492 02:41:44,230 --> 02:41:42,560 that good is way 4493 02:41:47,670 --> 02:41:44,240 you know 4494 02:41:50,230 --> 02:41:47,680 that good is uh not credible but 4495 02:41:51,670 --> 02:41:50,240 john is very 4496 02:41:54,070 --> 02:41:51,680 diplomatic 4497 02:41:55,830 --> 02:41:54,080 he doesn't accept actually except for 4498 02:41:56,790 --> 02:41:55,840 elizondo and melon i haven't heard him 4499 02:41:59,750 --> 02:41:56,800 say 4500 02:42:01,750 --> 02:41:59,760 bad things about too many people 4501 02:42:03,269 --> 02:42:01,760 um i even heard him like i said i heard 4502 02:42:04,790 --> 02:42:03,279 him on an interview with that woman he 4503 02:42:07,830 --> 02:42:04,800 mentioned and she was talking about all 4504 02:42:10,710 --> 02:42:07,840 her past lives and her super powers and 4505 02:42:12,710 --> 02:42:10,720 she's on the same show as him it was him 4506 02:42:15,349 --> 02:42:12,720 and her and an interviewer 4507 02:42:17,429 --> 02:42:15,359 and this woman was saying all this wacky 4508 02:42:18,950 --> 02:42:17,439 stuff and john is just talking to her 4509 02:42:20,870 --> 02:42:18,960 like yeah well that's very interesting 4510 02:42:23,429 --> 02:42:20,880 what you said about the secret you know 4511 02:42:26,469 --> 02:42:23,439 the reptilian aliens in space because 4512 02:42:27,670 --> 02:42:26,479 uh i i've i've read this or there 4513 02:42:29,510 --> 02:42:27,680 there's this from this book and he 4514 02:42:31,030 --> 02:42:29,520 starts rattling off all these books that 4515 02:42:33,830 --> 02:42:31,040 mentioned by telling you and i was kind 4516 02:42:36,790 --> 02:42:33,840 of fascinated that this girl was saying 4517 02:42:39,190 --> 02:42:36,800 all kinds of crazy woo 4518 02:42:41,429 --> 02:42:39,200 way way out there on the wild side of 4519 02:42:44,469 --> 02:42:41,439 conspiracy stuff and she was saying this 4520 02:42:47,670 --> 02:42:44,479 stuff with such nonchalance like oh uh 4521 02:42:50,070 --> 02:42:47,680 when i met the reptilian overlord uh 4522 02:42:52,150 --> 02:42:50,080 space commander and all you know i don't 4523 02:42:53,670 --> 02:42:52,160 know i'm paraphrasing but she said and 4524 02:42:56,230 --> 02:42:53,680 then she starts talking about her super 4525 02:42:59,429 --> 02:42:56,240 powers and how she's empathic and 4526 02:43:01,670 --> 02:42:59,439 and psychic and all of this stuff 4527 02:43:03,110 --> 02:43:01,680 that to most people even people that are 4528 02:43:05,269 --> 02:43:03,120 into this stuff would be like well she's 4529 02:43:07,990 --> 02:43:05,279 a little too out john was very he was 4530 02:43:10,469 --> 02:43:08,000 very very nice to her he was very very 4531 02:43:12,469 --> 02:43:10,479 kind to her he didn't disparage her or 4532 02:43:14,309 --> 02:43:12,479 her beliefs or her experience i don't 4533 02:43:16,550 --> 02:43:14,319 know something about that i found 4534 02:43:19,030 --> 02:43:16,560 fascinating plan b says i heard him on 4535 02:43:20,790 --> 02:43:19,040 dark journalists i haven't heard that 4536 02:43:25,670 --> 02:43:20,800 interview yet that one's on my list 4537 02:43:30,469 --> 02:43:28,469 oh plan b says uh he's a wild dude and 4538 02:43:33,190 --> 02:43:30,479 see we admire honesty especially 4539 02:43:34,550 --> 02:43:33,200 respectful honesty uh plan b says he's a 4540 02:43:36,230 --> 02:43:34,560 wild dude i thought he was full of [\h__\h] 4541 02:43:38,150 --> 02:43:36,240 at first but who knows he's got the deep 4542 02:43:40,630 --> 02:43:38,160 connections he sure does 4543 02:43:42,710 --> 02:43:40,640 right and picks let it go pix is now 4544 02:43:45,590 --> 02:43:42,720 saying steven you hate grier no i 4545 02:43:48,150 --> 02:43:45,600 dislike him i how about this 4546 02:43:49,910 --> 02:43:48,160 pics i maybe i did hate him at one point 4547 02:43:51,269 --> 02:43:49,920 right he made me angry because i felt 4548 02:43:52,790 --> 02:43:51,279 like he was taking advantage of people 4549 02:43:53,990 --> 02:43:52,800 and ripping people off for money that he 4550 02:43:55,910 --> 02:43:54,000 didn't deserve 4551 02:43:57,349 --> 02:43:55,920 but i'm gonna try to just dislike him 4552 02:43:59,910 --> 02:43:57,359 okay because hate requires too much 4553 02:44:02,309 --> 02:43:59,920 energy and i need my energy for other 4554 02:44:05,510 --> 02:44:02,319 things i really do i really do need my 4555 02:44:07,190 --> 02:44:05,520 energy for other things and uh yeah i 4556 02:44:10,950 --> 02:44:07,200 agree with pex who says john speaks the 4557 02:44:13,190 --> 02:44:10,960 truth he believes props for that yeah 4558 02:44:15,590 --> 02:44:13,200 my plan b says he trolls lou and chris 4559 02:44:17,750 --> 02:44:15,600 so i like them that's kind of where i 4560 02:44:20,469 --> 02:44:17,760 was with it plan b that's kind of where 4561 02:44:23,110 --> 02:44:20,479 i was not many people especially bigger 4562 02:44:26,070 --> 02:44:23,120 of these sort of conspiracy land 4563 02:44:28,469 --> 02:44:26,080 celebrities are talking smack on chris 4564 02:44:29,990 --> 02:44:28,479 and lou so uh i find his honesty 4565 02:44:32,790 --> 02:44:30,000 refreshing when it comes to that and 4566 02:44:35,030 --> 02:44:32,800 he's chris melds cousin i think he might 4567 02:44:37,750 --> 02:44:35,040 have some insight into chris mellon and 4568 02:44:39,910 --> 02:44:37,760 his motivations and his connections and 4569 02:44:42,070 --> 02:44:39,920 all of that stuff 4570 02:44:43,590 --> 02:44:42,080 dorothy hawkins says i failed greer when 4571 02:44:45,349 --> 02:44:43,600 the disclosure came out i found him 4572 02:44:47,510 --> 02:44:45,359 before that i watched him on larry king 4573 02:44:51,990 --> 02:44:47,520 before the uh disclosure project he was 4574 02:44:56,950 --> 02:44:54,309 not quite at the front of the class of 4575 02:44:59,830 --> 02:44:56,960 ufo conspiracy guys for a while he was a 4576 02:45:01,670 --> 02:44:59,840 lesser known ufo guy for quite a while 4577 02:45:03,190 --> 02:45:01,680 before the disclosure project his 4578 02:45:07,510 --> 02:45:03,200 disclosure project really put him on the 4579 02:45:13,429 --> 02:45:09,349 space exposure the disclosure project 4580 02:45:17,190 --> 02:45:15,670 john says uh pick says john is awesome 4581 02:45:19,269 --> 02:45:17,200 love the guy he misses a lot of stuff 4582 02:45:21,670 --> 02:45:19,279 but he nails a bunch too 4583 02:45:25,670 --> 02:45:23,510 bs alert buddy that's like asking about 4584 02:45:28,230 --> 02:45:25,680 lyanna the star traveler only warner has 4585 02:45:30,389 --> 02:45:28,240 been on a podcast with her yeah i'm 4586 02:45:32,150 --> 02:45:30,399 sorry i can't know all the i can't know 4587 02:45:34,469 --> 02:45:32,160 i'm sure i missed some of the interviews 4588 02:45:35,590 --> 02:45:34,479 that he'd been on and like i said he's 4589 02:45:39,910 --> 02:45:35,600 very 4590 02:45:43,030 --> 02:45:39,920 hear the wild stories he likes the wild 4591 02:45:44,630 --> 02:45:43,040 side of conspiracy story right 4592 02:45:48,870 --> 02:45:44,640 uh 4593 02:45:53,110 --> 02:45:50,550 our cake revival says truth seeker 4594 02:45:54,870 --> 02:45:53,120 you're the tormach to my zaymond and i 4595 02:45:57,670 --> 02:45:54,880 actually know what that means you're 4596 02:46:00,389 --> 02:45:57,680 talking about g.i joe the cobra guys 4597 02:46:01,830 --> 02:46:00,399 tomax and zaymond i have not heard of 4598 02:46:04,469 --> 02:46:01,840 those guys for 4599 02:46:06,790 --> 02:46:04,479 so long thank you for reminding me that 4600 02:46:09,910 --> 02:46:06,800 that's a weird uh 4601 02:46:11,750 --> 02:46:09,920 that is a weird part of my childhood if 4602 02:46:12,550 --> 02:46:11,760 if people don't know tillmax and zama 4603 02:46:23,190 --> 02:46:12,560 were 4604 02:46:24,710 --> 02:46:23,200 tomax and zama and one of them had a 4605 02:46:25,910 --> 02:46:24,720 scar right that's how you can tell them 4606 02:46:27,590 --> 02:46:25,920 apart 4607 02:46:29,750 --> 02:46:27,600 and they worked for cobra so they were 4608 02:46:31,110 --> 02:46:29,760 gi joe bad guys 4609 02:46:36,230 --> 02:46:31,120 interesting 4610 02:46:38,870 --> 02:46:36,240 had these toys when i was a kid 4611 02:46:40,790 --> 02:46:38,880 i remember yeah i had a whole lot of gi 4612 02:46:42,870 --> 02:46:40,800 joe toys when i was a kid 4613 02:46:44,230 --> 02:46:42,880 but you know what's interesting uh you 4614 02:46:46,150 --> 02:46:44,240 know what's really interesting archaic 4615 02:46:47,030 --> 02:46:46,160 revival is i didn't like gi joe very 4616 02:46:49,030 --> 02:46:47,040 much 4617 02:46:51,830 --> 02:46:49,040 i liked cobra right because they had 4618 02:46:54,230 --> 02:46:51,840 cooler tanks and cooler weapons and they 4619 02:46:56,469 --> 02:46:54,240 had masks and stuff i liked i liked 4620 02:46:58,630 --> 02:46:56,479 cobra and i was always watching 4621 02:47:01,190 --> 02:46:58,640 kind of hoping for cobra to win secretly 4622 02:47:03,269 --> 02:47:01,200 honestly you know i love destro and 4623 02:47:05,590 --> 02:47:03,279 cobra commander with the hood 4624 02:47:07,190 --> 02:47:05,600 i had all that stuff 4625 02:47:09,910 --> 02:47:07,200 because john been on an interview with 4626 02:47:13,349 --> 02:47:09,920 anjali yet not to my knowledge but maybe 4627 02:47:15,349 --> 02:47:13,359 we could try to make that happen right 4628 02:47:17,590 --> 02:47:15,359 pics oh we have a new and improved 4629 02:47:19,110 --> 02:47:17,600 stephen yeah picks i'm a work in 4630 02:47:20,469 --> 02:47:19,120 progress right 4631 02:47:22,550 --> 02:47:20,479 i don't know about you but i try to 4632 02:47:24,469 --> 02:47:22,560 continually improve myself and try to 4633 02:47:27,030 --> 02:47:24,479 make myself a better person you know 4634 02:47:29,030 --> 02:47:27,040 what i have been doing lately is uh i'm 4635 02:47:31,670 --> 02:47:29,040 trying to spend more time talking to my 4636 02:47:34,309 --> 02:47:31,680 son my uh my for those that don't know i 4637 02:47:36,550 --> 02:47:34,319 have two sons five and ten and my 4638 02:47:38,550 --> 02:47:36,560 five-year-old xavier is very curious and 4639 02:47:40,870 --> 02:47:38,560 inquisitive and talkative 4640 02:47:42,550 --> 02:47:40,880 and uh as much as i love him that can be 4641 02:47:44,309 --> 02:47:42,560 annoying sometimes you know you try to 4642 02:47:46,950 --> 02:47:44,319 do something you're like shut up xavier 4643 02:47:48,710 --> 02:47:46,960 i'm busy you know so 4644 02:47:50,790 --> 02:47:48,720 anyway work in progress i'm trying to 4645 02:47:52,790 --> 02:47:50,800 become a better father so i'm spending 4646 02:47:54,309 --> 02:47:52,800 more time just talking to him 4647 02:47:56,950 --> 02:47:54,319 and he talks to me about all kinds of 4648 02:47:58,389 --> 02:47:56,960 nonsense and i just you know 4649 02:48:00,630 --> 02:47:58,399 not nonsense but you know what i mean 4650 02:48:02,230 --> 02:48:00,640 like he talks to me about kids at school 4651 02:48:03,830 --> 02:48:02,240 and i don't know who he's even talking 4652 02:48:04,710 --> 02:48:03,840 about and all these other things but i'm 4653 02:48:06,469 --> 02:48:04,720 trying to 4654 02:48:08,469 --> 02:48:06,479 spend more time just talking to him and 4655 02:48:10,389 --> 02:48:08,479 teaching him things too so yeah i'm a 4656 02:48:12,150 --> 02:48:10,399 work in progress pics i'm trying to 4657 02:48:13,349 --> 02:48:12,160 improve myself always trying to improve 4658 02:48:14,389 --> 02:48:13,359 myself 4659 02:48:17,670 --> 02:48:14,399 uh 4660 02:48:19,030 --> 02:48:17,680 kate schneider is here who says i love 4661 02:48:21,110 --> 02:48:19,040 this community because it's harder to 4662 02:48:23,590 --> 02:48:21,120 pass bs than ever before way too many 4663 02:48:25,670 --> 02:48:23,600 serious researchers and i'm glad to have 4664 02:48:27,269 --> 02:48:25,680 kate here in the in the live chat for 4665 02:48:29,269 --> 02:48:27,279 those don't know that's dark journalist 4666 02:48:31,590 --> 02:48:29,279 girlfriend so we're honored by her 4667 02:48:33,030 --> 02:48:31,600 presence right maybe some of that dark 4668 02:48:35,590 --> 02:48:33,040 journalist uh 4669 02:48:38,710 --> 02:48:35,600 good mojo is going to rub off on me we 4670 02:48:40,389 --> 02:48:38,720 need all help we could get 4671 02:48:43,110 --> 02:48:40,399 and i don't know that i disagree with 4672 02:48:45,110 --> 02:48:43,120 you pick says we all owe greer huge debt 4673 02:48:47,349 --> 02:48:45,120 sorry he pushed the reality we aren't 4674 02:48:48,230 --> 02:48:47,359 alone forward massively 4675 02:48:50,790 --> 02:48:48,240 um 4676 02:48:53,269 --> 02:48:50,800 he also made millions doing it picks but 4677 02:48:55,590 --> 02:48:53,279 uh i'll give you that one we do owe him 4678 02:48:56,830 --> 02:48:55,600 for his i think that his early work was 4679 02:48:59,990 --> 02:48:56,840 much more 4680 02:49:01,670 --> 02:49:00,000 credible and and that his heart used to 4681 02:49:03,590 --> 02:49:01,680 be more in the right place but money 4682 02:49:06,070 --> 02:49:03,600 gets in the way of 4683 02:49:07,269 --> 02:49:06,080 ethics and morality quite often so this 4684 02:49:08,070 --> 02:49:07,279 is what 4685 02:49:10,550 --> 02:49:08,080 uh 4686 02:49:13,830 --> 02:49:10,560 it's it's happening paul carter this is 4687 02:49:15,510 --> 02:49:13,840 true i've read this uh john warder's dad 4688 02:49:16,550 --> 02:49:15,520 is known to be the wealthiest u.s 4689 02:49:19,110 --> 02:49:16,560 senator 4690 02:49:22,070 --> 02:49:19,120 that's saying a lot yeah there's so well 4691 02:49:24,630 --> 02:49:22,080 listen it's the warner melon 4692 02:49:29,030 --> 02:49:26,950 we heard him say his his grandfather was 4693 02:49:31,349 --> 02:49:29,040 a physician like a doctor and his father 4694 02:49:33,510 --> 02:49:31,359 was you know working class but educated 4695 02:49:36,309 --> 02:49:33,520 but working class middle class 4696 02:49:38,230 --> 02:49:36,319 um so his father sort of married up into 4697 02:49:40,150 --> 02:49:38,240 the melon family and the melon family 4698 02:49:41,670 --> 02:49:40,160 had they're the melon bank they have 4699 02:49:43,830 --> 02:49:41,680 huge amounts of money 4700 02:49:46,469 --> 02:49:43,840 so his father sort of married up 4701 02:49:48,150 --> 02:49:46,479 and uh but he was also very very 4702 02:49:49,349 --> 02:49:48,160 successful in his own right it's not 4703 02:49:51,990 --> 02:49:49,359 like he just 4704 02:49:54,309 --> 02:49:52,000 married a rich heiress and didn't work 4705 02:49:57,510 --> 02:49:54,319 you know he was very hard-working very 4706 02:50:00,389 --> 02:49:57,520 ambitious i'm fascinated by his family 4707 02:50:03,349 --> 02:50:00,399 especially his father uh what an amazing 4708 02:50:06,230 --> 02:50:03,359 life and the guy died at 94 god bless 4709 02:50:08,870 --> 02:50:06,240 him recently so rest in peace 4710 02:50:11,670 --> 02:50:08,880 john william order the third john's 4711 02:50:14,630 --> 02:50:11,680 father uh passed away i believe last 4712 02:50:16,870 --> 02:50:14,640 year may of last year so uh at 94 god 4713 02:50:18,950 --> 02:50:16,880 bless the guy he had an amazing life 4714 02:50:21,110 --> 02:50:18,960 he was at the intersection of so many 4715 02:50:22,710 --> 02:50:21,120 important parts of history and 4716 02:50:24,870 --> 02:50:22,720 people in history 4717 02:50:27,830 --> 02:50:24,880 amazing 4718 02:50:30,150 --> 02:50:27,840 vs alert bunny why would well anybody 4719 02:50:32,230 --> 02:50:30,160 let alone dorothy even dip their toe in 4720 02:50:33,990 --> 02:50:32,240 the deep blue when they don't believe 4721 02:50:38,710 --> 02:50:34,000 any of this don't know 4722 02:50:42,550 --> 02:50:41,030 i don't know 4723 02:50:44,230 --> 02:50:42,560 that girl jessica says seems like you're 4724 02:50:45,830 --> 02:50:44,240 becoming a regular gandalf yeah and 4725 02:50:46,870 --> 02:50:45,840 welcome gandalf it's good to see you 4726 02:50:49,510 --> 02:50:46,880 here again 4727 02:50:51,269 --> 02:50:49,520 i'm glad to see so many people here and 4728 02:50:53,750 --> 02:50:51,279 once again i want to apologize for the 4729 02:50:56,469 --> 02:50:53,760 screw-up earlier so if you if you want 4730 02:50:57,910 --> 02:50:56,479 to hear more about john and his history 4731 02:50:59,910 --> 02:50:57,920 and his uh 4732 02:51:02,790 --> 02:50:59,920 and his dad's history then look at the 4733 02:51:05,349 --> 02:51:02,800 part one which was me filling time 4734 02:51:07,429 --> 02:51:05,359 trying to get john to get to the 4735 02:51:09,190 --> 02:51:07,439 interview but it was my screw-up he 4736 02:51:11,190 --> 02:51:09,200 emailed me for the link and i didn't 4737 02:51:13,110 --> 02:51:11,200 check my email on 4738 02:51:14,389 --> 02:51:13,120 message him on twitter like a dummy 4739 02:51:15,830 --> 02:51:14,399 right 4740 02:51:17,670 --> 02:51:15,840 but i'm so glad that everything worked 4741 02:51:20,309 --> 02:51:17,680 out and from a content creator 4742 02:51:21,510 --> 02:51:20,319 standpoint hey we milked john for two 4743 02:51:25,349 --> 02:51:21,520 shows 4744 02:51:29,349 --> 02:51:27,190 that girl jessica said she likes she-ra 4745 02:51:32,070 --> 02:51:29,359 i grew up with he-man right i'm trying 4746 02:51:33,910 --> 02:51:32,080 to get my son to watch the new he-man by 4747 02:51:35,510 --> 02:51:33,920 kevin smith and he's not interested he 4748 02:51:38,389 --> 02:51:35,520 watches like 10 minutes of it he's like 4749 02:51:39,269 --> 02:51:38,399 that's not pokemon it's not 4750 02:51:41,750 --> 02:51:39,279 you know 4751 02:51:44,070 --> 02:51:41,760 what i like he's like it's okay cartoon 4752 02:51:45,910 --> 02:51:44,080 but it's not great dad and i'm like damn 4753 02:51:47,830 --> 02:51:45,920 it i'm trying to get him to like he-man 4754 02:51:49,990 --> 02:51:47,840 so that when he's watching cartoons i 4755 02:51:52,550 --> 02:51:50,000 like it too right because he watches 4756 02:51:55,830 --> 02:51:52,560 crazy stupid things you know and i can't 4757 02:51:57,349 --> 02:51:55,840 stand what he what he watches right 4758 02:52:00,070 --> 02:51:57,359 patrick sheehan says bringing on the 4759 02:52:02,790 --> 02:52:00,080 cobra knowledge right 4760 02:52:05,590 --> 02:52:02,800 yes plan b do you remember zartan yes i 4761 02:52:10,070 --> 02:52:05,600 had a zartan and you're right they used 4762 02:52:13,429 --> 02:52:10,080 color changing dye in the in the toy 4763 02:52:16,950 --> 02:52:13,439 and when you put the toy out in 4764 02:52:17,910 --> 02:52:16,960 uh out in the sun it turned blue or 4765 02:52:20,389 --> 02:52:17,920 green 4766 02:52:22,870 --> 02:52:20,399 well it depends on i guess yeah 4767 02:52:24,870 --> 02:52:22,880 zartan was a master of disguise too sort 4768 02:52:26,950 --> 02:52:24,880 of like the chameleon the spider-man 4769 02:52:33,190 --> 02:52:26,960 villain he was one of my favorite cobra 4770 02:52:37,349 --> 02:52:35,510 oh there's a zartan shirt 4771 02:52:38,790 --> 02:52:37,359 that's not what we wanted 4772 02:52:40,070 --> 02:52:38,800 oh wait a minute do i get the right 4773 02:52:41,190 --> 02:52:40,080 thing oh yeah you do have the right 4774 02:52:43,110 --> 02:52:41,200 thing okay 4775 02:52:44,870 --> 02:52:43,120 yeah so this was our tan and this was 4776 02:52:49,030 --> 02:52:44,880 the zartan figure 4777 02:52:51,429 --> 02:52:49,040 uh 4778 02:52:53,750 --> 02:52:51,439 if you put it out in the sun 4779 02:52:56,630 --> 02:52:53,760 zartan would turn blue i think they used 4780 02:52:58,630 --> 02:52:56,640 color changing dye i read somewhere 4781 02:53:02,469 --> 02:52:58,640 uh boy we're getting an education in 4782 02:53:05,349 --> 02:53:02,479 cobra at the end here right 4783 02:53:07,990 --> 02:53:05,359 yeah interesting zartan is definitely 4784 02:53:09,830 --> 02:53:08,000 interesting i loved cobra growing up 4785 02:53:11,510 --> 02:53:09,840 i used to even get some of the gi joe 4786 02:53:14,070 --> 02:53:11,520 toys and paint them black and just say 4787 02:53:15,590 --> 02:53:14,080 cobra captured that tank right i got in 4788 02:53:20,710 --> 02:53:15,600 trouble with my dad once because i got 4789 02:53:25,830 --> 02:53:23,190 kate schneider by the power of graceful 4790 02:53:27,429 --> 02:53:25,840 uh the transformation was the best 4791 02:53:29,910 --> 02:53:27,439 yeah it really was and for those that 4792 02:53:32,389 --> 02:53:29,920 are interested in he-man there is a look 4793 02:53:35,030 --> 02:53:32,399 up he-man masters of the universe pc 4794 02:53:36,870 --> 02:53:35,040 game somebody made a tribute game to 4795 02:53:40,550 --> 02:53:36,880 he-man that looks just like the old 4796 02:53:42,309 --> 02:53:40,560 cartoon we all grew up with it's amazing 4797 02:53:43,910 --> 02:53:42,319 patrick she and lake code were too 4798 02:53:45,990 --> 02:53:43,920 fascist they just wanted to take over 4799 02:53:50,710 --> 02:53:46,000 the world come on 4800 02:53:57,349 --> 02:53:52,870 tanatha of the silver legion i don't 4801 02:54:00,870 --> 02:53:59,110 kate schneider says pics yeah it's great 4802 02:54:02,389 --> 02:54:00,880 in the ufology community in general so 4803 02:54:04,309 --> 02:54:02,399 many people passionate about research 4804 02:54:05,190 --> 02:54:04,319 and it's not just buying into bs tales 4805 02:54:07,590 --> 02:54:05,200 pushed 4806 02:54:09,429 --> 02:54:07,600 yeah uh that's kind of why i liked uh 4807 02:54:12,070 --> 02:54:09,439 your boyfriend there kate schneider dark 4808 02:54:12,870 --> 02:54:12,080 journalist i like that he 4809 02:54:15,349 --> 02:54:12,880 you know 4810 02:54:17,910 --> 02:54:15,359 one thing that impresses me is that he 4811 02:54:19,590 --> 02:54:17,920 seems to speak very intelligently 4812 02:54:21,269 --> 02:54:19,600 without notes 4813 02:54:23,590 --> 02:54:21,279 like i think i don't know if he 4814 02:54:26,870 --> 02:54:23,600 memorizes stuff or what does he do but 4815 02:54:29,190 --> 02:54:26,880 he he has very good grasp you know i 4816 02:54:30,950 --> 02:54:29,200 guess you always admire traits and other 4817 02:54:33,110 --> 02:54:30,960 people that you lack like i can't do 4818 02:54:35,510 --> 02:54:33,120 that i need notes and 4819 02:54:37,910 --> 02:54:35,520 slides and you know i can't just do it 4820 02:54:39,670 --> 02:54:37,920 off my he's amazing sometimes i've been 4821 02:54:40,389 --> 02:54:39,680 catching up watching him really enjoying 4822 02:54:41,910 --> 02:54:40,399 the 4823 02:54:43,830 --> 02:54:41,920 couple latest joseph p pharrell 4824 02:54:45,670 --> 02:54:43,840 interviews that he did and i hope to 4825 02:54:49,110 --> 02:54:45,680 continue catching up 4826 02:54:50,870 --> 02:54:49,120 uh yes 4827 02:54:53,030 --> 02:54:50,880 have we found a new stan freeman who is 4828 02:54:55,750 --> 02:54:53,040 a trustworthy ufo researcher these days 4829 02:54:57,269 --> 02:54:55,760 there's a few left i like john greenwald 4830 02:55:01,030 --> 02:54:57,279 from the black vault 4831 02:55:02,870 --> 02:55:01,040 um i like uh alien scientists and a few 4832 02:55:06,630 --> 02:55:02,880 others i mean there's a few other people 4833 02:55:10,950 --> 02:55:08,389 senator john warner was one of the good 4834 02:55:13,990 --> 02:55:10,960 ones when the gop still had ethics even 4835 02:55:18,070 --> 02:55:15,590 if you say so 4836 02:55:19,030 --> 02:55:18,080 and the live chat is blowing by me uh 4837 02:55:21,670 --> 02:55:19,040 you know 4838 02:55:23,510 --> 02:55:21,680 one of the only uh 4839 02:55:25,269 --> 02:55:23,520 downsides to the show getting bigger is 4840 02:55:26,950 --> 02:55:25,279 i have a harder time in the live chat 4841 02:55:29,110 --> 02:55:26,960 because sometimes it's just flying by 4842 02:55:36,389 --> 02:55:29,120 and i'm trying to keep up so 4843 02:55:39,349 --> 02:55:38,150 and those listening in audio podcasts 4844 02:55:41,830 --> 02:55:39,359 lin 4845 02:55:43,269 --> 02:55:41,840 please forgive me as well because 4846 02:55:45,349 --> 02:55:43,279 if there's dead air it's because of 4847 02:55:48,309 --> 02:55:45,359 coughing or sneezing or hacking that's 4848 02:55:50,230 --> 02:55:48,319 right i'm sick again 4849 02:55:51,830 --> 02:55:50,240 i had a cold for like two or three weeks 4850 02:55:53,910 --> 02:55:51,840 and then i had two weeks where i felt 4851 02:55:55,269 --> 02:55:53,920 great and now i'm back to having a cold 4852 02:55:57,349 --> 02:55:55,279 i don't know if it's the same cold it 4853 02:55:58,469 --> 02:55:57,359 came back or i got a new one 4854 02:56:00,790 --> 02:55:58,479 or 4855 02:56:03,750 --> 02:56:00,800 and also the last couple of days i've 4856 02:56:05,349 --> 02:56:03,760 had a temperature and i'm feeling crappy 4857 02:56:07,269 --> 02:56:05,359 and i got a headache 4858 02:56:10,070 --> 02:56:07,279 and a few people have mentioned to me 4859 02:56:11,429 --> 02:56:10,080 that these seem to be the omicron 4860 02:56:13,670 --> 02:56:11,439 symptoms 4861 02:56:15,670 --> 02:56:13,680 and so i i'm just out of an abundance of 4862 02:56:17,510 --> 02:56:15,680 caution i'm going to be taking a uh a 4863 02:56:18,309 --> 02:56:17,520 covet test tomorrow 4864 02:56:20,070 --> 02:56:18,319 um 4865 02:56:21,590 --> 02:56:20,080 because i'm once again 4866 02:56:25,269 --> 02:56:21,600 really under the weather and feeling 4867 02:56:29,190 --> 02:56:27,110 yes i would add dark journalist as a 4868 02:56:31,670 --> 02:56:29,200 credible researcher in there i love his 4869 02:56:33,190 --> 02:56:31,680 deep dives into the cia and all those 4870 02:56:35,269 --> 02:56:33,200 weird connections 4871 02:56:36,389 --> 02:56:35,279 sorry uh i had just finished talking 4872 02:56:38,630 --> 02:56:36,399 about dark journalists he would 4873 02:56:41,990 --> 02:56:38,640 certainly be on my list of people that i 4874 02:56:45,750 --> 02:56:42,000 still trust and think are well worth 4875 02:56:50,070 --> 02:56:47,670 jeremy rise misses some serious stuff 4876 02:56:51,990 --> 02:56:50,080 i'm sad to say well maybe he's just pix 4877 02:56:54,389 --> 02:56:52,000 doesn't like me being dismissive of 4878 02:56:56,790 --> 02:56:54,399 certain things or stories maybe that's 4879 02:57:04,389 --> 02:56:56,800 it with your problem with him is similar 4880 02:57:08,469 --> 02:57:06,790 that girl jessica says again it must be 4881 02:57:10,950 --> 02:57:08,479 the young kids yes 4882 02:57:14,469 --> 02:57:13,590 while my kids were doing uh school at 4883 02:57:16,469 --> 02:57:14,479 home 4884 02:57:18,230 --> 02:57:16,479 and we were all locked down and 4885 02:57:19,990 --> 02:57:18,240 quarantined 4886 02:57:21,910 --> 02:57:20,000 i didn't get sick once 4887 02:57:23,910 --> 02:57:21,920 in two years as soon as my kids went 4888 02:57:27,030 --> 02:57:23,920 back to school i started getting sick 4889 02:57:29,030 --> 02:57:27,040 again and i mean you know colds stomach 4890 02:57:30,950 --> 02:57:29,040 virus flu 4891 02:57:33,030 --> 02:57:30,960 um and now i seem to have something 4892 02:57:35,190 --> 02:57:33,040 that's feels like a cold but a little 4893 02:57:39,349 --> 02:57:35,200 worse i have a headache 4894 02:57:42,070 --> 02:57:39,359 um i did have a temperature i woke up in 4895 02:57:44,389 --> 02:57:42,080 having cold sweats i mean i was soaked 4896 02:57:46,150 --> 02:57:44,399 with the sweats in the middle of the 4897 02:57:48,710 --> 02:57:46,160 night and 4898 02:57:50,630 --> 02:57:48,720 i was having chills last night 4899 02:57:53,670 --> 02:57:50,640 so i'm a little concerned and so is my 4900 02:57:55,030 --> 02:57:53,680 wife that it might be the dreaded coven 4901 02:57:56,150 --> 02:57:55,040 so 4902 02:57:58,469 --> 02:57:56,160 uh 4903 02:58:01,670 --> 02:57:58,479 i'm going to take another covet test i 4904 02:58:03,429 --> 02:58:01,680 can't tell you how many i've taken now 4905 02:58:06,630 --> 02:58:03,439 i'm going to take another coca test 4906 02:58:08,550 --> 02:58:06,640 tomorrow and if it is positive my wife 4907 02:58:10,950 --> 02:58:08,560 and i have a plan for me to just stay in 4908 02:58:12,550 --> 02:58:10,960 my office as much as possible and try to 4909 02:58:14,870 --> 02:58:12,560 stay away from 4910 02:58:17,429 --> 02:58:14,880 the the rest of the family though my 4911 02:58:19,030 --> 02:58:17,439 oldest son tested positive for covid so 4912 02:58:21,349 --> 02:58:19,040 he's already had kogan but he was 4913 02:58:22,950 --> 02:58:21,359 asymptomatic he had no symptoms 4914 02:58:24,150 --> 02:58:22,960 whatsoever couldn't even tell he was 4915 02:58:26,469 --> 02:58:24,160 sick at all 4916 02:58:28,469 --> 02:58:26,479 and when he's sick we know it because he 4917 02:58:29,190 --> 02:58:28,479 he sits down and he's 4918 02:58:31,190 --> 02:58:29,200 like 4919 02:58:33,750 --> 02:58:31,200 calmer than usual and he's sort of 4920 02:58:37,269 --> 02:58:33,760 lethargic we always know when he's sick 4921 02:58:39,030 --> 02:58:37,279 he had coveted he was exposed to cloven 4922 02:58:40,630 --> 02:58:39,040 at school so they recommended a kova 4923 02:58:42,550 --> 02:58:40,640 test for all the peop the children that 4924 02:58:44,870 --> 02:58:42,560 were exposed we had him tested it was 4925 02:58:46,389 --> 02:58:44,880 definitely a positive and we had that 4926 02:58:48,870 --> 02:58:46,399 you know the 4927 02:58:50,070 --> 02:58:48,880 not not a home test like the the good 4928 02:58:52,790 --> 02:58:50,080 test i don't know what is it called the 4929 02:58:55,349 --> 02:58:52,800 pcr test so he's already been 4930 02:58:57,590 --> 02:58:55,359 covered positive and recovered fully 4931 02:58:59,670 --> 02:58:57,600 didn't have any symptoms at all 4932 02:59:02,230 --> 02:58:59,680 but we don't know that my wife and my 4933 02:59:04,309 --> 02:59:02,240 younger son has ever had covet so if it 4934 02:59:05,830 --> 02:59:04,319 turns out that i am covet positive i'm 4935 02:59:07,670 --> 02:59:05,840 going to be staying in my office 4936 02:59:09,830 --> 02:59:07,680 quarantining myself and my family as 4937 02:59:11,510 --> 02:59:09,840 much as humanly possible i still have to 4938 02:59:13,190 --> 02:59:11,520 go get my kids off the bus but other 4939 02:59:14,790 --> 02:59:13,200 than that i'm going to try to keep my 4940 02:59:18,230 --> 02:59:14,800 distance because we certainly don't want 4941 02:59:19,830 --> 02:59:18,240 to get my wife or my younger son sick 4942 02:59:21,429 --> 02:59:19,840 from just you know 4943 02:59:22,469 --> 02:59:21,439 being around me 4944 02:59:24,309 --> 02:59:22,479 uh 4945 02:59:26,630 --> 02:59:24,319 the guy says truth seekers drink whiskey 4946 02:59:29,510 --> 02:59:26,640 for the cold i don't know about that 4947 02:59:30,469 --> 02:59:29,520 uh 4948 02:59:33,190 --> 02:59:30,479 actually 4949 02:59:35,670 --> 02:59:33,200 i started feeling ill after i 4950 02:59:38,389 --> 02:59:35,680 i thought i was just hungover at first 4951 02:59:40,710 --> 02:59:38,399 uh lee guy i because i i sort of tied 4952 02:59:43,030 --> 02:59:40,720 one on a little too much with some cheap 4953 02:59:44,389 --> 02:59:43,040 beer and that's never a good idea 4954 02:59:45,910 --> 02:59:44,399 and the next day i woke up and i was 4955 02:59:47,429 --> 02:59:45,920 like oh i don't feel so good and later 4956 02:59:48,550 --> 02:59:47,439 in the day i was like oh my throat's so 4957 02:59:51,510 --> 02:59:48,560 scratchy but i thought i was just 4958 02:59:53,750 --> 02:59:51,520 dehydrated from drinking too much anyway 4959 02:59:55,750 --> 02:59:53,760 here we are got a headache i gotta i 4960 02:59:57,830 --> 02:59:55,760 gotta i can tell that i'm feverish right 4961 02:59:59,190 --> 02:59:57,840 now i have a temperature i've got a 4962 03:00:00,870 --> 02:59:59,200 slight headache 4963 03:00:01,990 --> 03:00:00,880 it's not so bad though 4964 03:00:03,750 --> 03:00:02,000 and 4965 03:00:05,910 --> 03:00:03,760 you know if it is 4966 03:00:08,790 --> 03:00:05,920 if it is current health crisis or 4967 03:00:10,309 --> 03:00:08,800 pandemic related i hope it's the omicron 4968 03:00:13,670 --> 03:00:10,319 because i hear that's the easiest to 4969 03:00:15,510 --> 03:00:13,680 deal with and and the least dangerous 4970 03:00:18,070 --> 03:00:15,520 um 4971 03:00:19,670 --> 03:00:18,080 and i all you know i hate to say this 4972 03:00:21,269 --> 03:00:19,680 i almost hope it is 4973 03:00:22,870 --> 03:00:21,279 because 4974 03:00:25,590 --> 03:00:22,880 i got the 4975 03:00:28,469 --> 03:00:25,600 you know i'm i'm already vaccinated if i 4976 03:00:30,150 --> 03:00:28,479 do happen to be positive then then i 4977 03:00:32,550 --> 03:00:30,160 will have the 4978 03:00:34,870 --> 03:00:32,560 i will have after the end of this i 4979 03:00:36,710 --> 03:00:34,880 would have the vaccine 4980 03:00:39,030 --> 03:00:36,720 immunity and i will have natural 4981 03:00:41,030 --> 03:00:39,040 immunity and most people experts agree 4982 03:00:42,150 --> 03:00:41,040 that you really can't get covered twice 4983 03:00:44,950 --> 03:00:42,160 people think 4984 03:00:46,070 --> 03:00:44,960 know 4985 03:00:47,110 --> 03:00:46,080 but 4986 03:00:48,950 --> 03:00:47,120 you know what i shouldn't even talk 4987 03:00:50,070 --> 03:00:48,960 about this stuff on this channel we're 4988 03:00:51,670 --> 03:00:50,080 going to be starting something called 4989 03:00:53,830 --> 03:00:51,680 truth seekers uncensored well i'll be 4990 03:00:55,670 --> 03:00:53,840 able to uh untie my tongue and say 4991 03:00:58,309 --> 03:00:55,680 whatever i want we're looking forward to 4992 03:01:02,309 --> 03:01:00,230 now warrior says he's vaccine feels like 4993 03:01:03,750 --> 03:01:02,319 the terminator good good i'm glad that 4994 03:01:05,429 --> 03:01:03,760 it worked out for you 4995 03:01:13,190 --> 03:01:05,439 right that girl jessica says make the 4996 03:01:17,830 --> 03:01:15,030 grant hey good i'm gonna take your 4997 03:01:23,750 --> 03:01:20,550 and pardon this the nose blow there 4998 03:01:27,349 --> 03:01:23,760 audio people kick ass immune picture 4999 03:01:29,030 --> 03:01:27,359 vitamin c echinacea pills for a cold 5000 03:01:30,950 --> 03:01:29,040 i don't have any echinacea pills but 5001 03:01:32,710 --> 03:01:30,960 i've been meaning to get that and you 5002 03:01:34,950 --> 03:01:32,720 know what has worked for me in the past 5003 03:01:37,110 --> 03:01:34,960 grant haywood but i have to stress 5004 03:01:38,550 --> 03:01:37,120 i'm not a doctor i'm not giving medical 5005 03:01:40,790 --> 03:01:38,560 advice i'm just telling you my personal 5006 03:01:42,710 --> 03:01:40,800 experience go see your doctor whatever 5007 03:01:44,790 --> 03:01:42,720 it ails you don't listen to me go see 5008 03:01:46,630 --> 03:01:44,800 your doctor uh you should get advice 5009 03:01:48,630 --> 03:01:46,640 from a qualified medical professional 5010 03:01:50,309 --> 03:01:48,640 but what i have used in the past that 5011 03:01:52,630 --> 03:01:50,319 seemed to be somewhat effective or at 5012 03:01:53,590 --> 03:01:52,640 least made me feel better is elderberry 5013 03:01:55,030 --> 03:01:53,600 syrup 5014 03:01:57,349 --> 03:01:55,040 i don't know what it is 5015 03:01:59,910 --> 03:01:57,359 they say it's good for you it can't hurt 5016 03:02:01,830 --> 03:01:59,920 so uh i've been drinking tea with honey 5017 03:02:03,750 --> 03:02:01,840 and lemon that makes me feel a little 5018 03:02:04,710 --> 03:02:03,760 better but the elderberry syrup i think 5019 03:02:07,190 --> 03:02:04,720 that 5020 03:02:09,750 --> 03:02:07,200 works better especially for throat stuff 5021 03:02:14,550 --> 03:02:09,760 it does something like coats your throat 5022 03:02:17,750 --> 03:02:16,150 kate schneider says get off youtube to 5023 03:02:19,429 --> 03:02:17,760 say what you really feel stephen i don't 5024 03:02:22,230 --> 03:02:19,439 know how your boyfriend gets away with 5025 03:02:24,630 --> 03:02:22,240 some stuff he says i'm impressed 5026 03:02:26,309 --> 03:02:24,640 right shot is great 5027 03:02:28,389 --> 03:02:26,319 i mean being in your office make the 5028 03:02:30,070 --> 03:02:28,399 most of it yeah i'll do three streams a 5029 03:02:33,110 --> 03:02:30,080 day that girl jessica i want nothing 5030 03:02:34,950 --> 03:02:33,120 else to do i'll be here lonely by myself 5031 03:02:37,190 --> 03:02:34,960 waiting for my wife to let me out i 5032 03:02:38,469 --> 03:02:37,200 think she's going to padlock me in here 5033 03:02:41,670 --> 03:02:38,479 no she won't 5034 03:02:44,150 --> 03:02:41,680 well i wouldn't put anything past her 5035 03:02:45,830 --> 03:02:44,160 she wants to protect the youngest from 5036 03:02:47,670 --> 03:02:45,840 getting sick possibly because he you 5037 03:02:49,750 --> 03:02:47,680 know how young kids are especially with 5038 03:02:51,590 --> 03:02:49,760 me he's like you know 5039 03:02:53,830 --> 03:02:51,600 daddy give me a back ride and he's 5040 03:02:55,750 --> 03:02:53,840 jumping on me and he'll 5041 03:02:57,670 --> 03:02:55,760 lay on me on the couch and stuff so 5042 03:03:01,110 --> 03:02:57,680 she's concerned that he might get it 5043 03:03:05,190 --> 03:03:03,190 grant says my girlfriend is an herbalist 5044 03:03:07,910 --> 03:03:05,200 and uses elderberry yeah i'm gonna i'm 5045 03:03:09,269 --> 03:03:07,920 gonna order elderberry and echinacea i'm 5046 03:03:10,630 --> 03:03:09,279 definitely gonna order that as soon as i 5047 03:03:13,190 --> 03:03:10,640 get off here 5048 03:03:15,110 --> 03:03:13,200 uh plan b says would you jump onto 5049 03:03:17,349 --> 03:03:15,120 rumble well it's interesting we started 5050 03:03:19,269 --> 03:03:17,359 we have a rumble channel 5051 03:03:20,309 --> 03:03:19,279 we just increased our distribution to 5052 03:03:22,469 --> 03:03:20,319 rumble 5053 03:03:24,230 --> 03:03:22,479 daily motion 5054 03:03:26,389 --> 03:03:24,240 odyssey 5055 03:03:27,990 --> 03:03:26,399 and bit shoot in addition to what we 5056 03:03:30,150 --> 03:03:28,000 already do which is facebook live 5057 03:03:31,670 --> 03:03:30,160 youtube and twitch 5058 03:03:33,750 --> 03:03:31,680 but the problem is that some of these 5059 03:03:36,950 --> 03:03:33,760 sites have these weird requirements like 5060 03:03:38,830 --> 03:03:36,960 bitshoot the files can only be so big so 5061 03:03:41,750 --> 03:03:38,840 i gotta figure that part out and 5062 03:03:43,990 --> 03:03:41,760 dailymotion you can only have hour-long 5063 03:03:45,910 --> 03:03:44,000 uploads so i gotta 5064 03:03:47,830 --> 03:03:45,920 only upload hour-long shows we're gonna 5065 03:03:49,910 --> 03:03:47,840 be doing some shows that will be an hour 5066 03:03:51,990 --> 03:03:49,920 or under just so we can get some of them 5067 03:03:53,429 --> 03:03:52,000 on bed shoot 5068 03:03:54,389 --> 03:03:53,439 yeah rumble is something that we're 5069 03:03:56,389 --> 03:03:54,399 looking into 5070 03:03:57,590 --> 03:03:56,399 as far as live streaming or we may do 5071 03:03:58,469 --> 03:03:57,600 the 5072 03:04:00,550 --> 03:03:58,479 um 5073 03:04:02,550 --> 03:04:00,560 uncensored stream on twitch but then i 5074 03:04:04,710 --> 03:04:02,560 hear that twitch has some 5075 03:04:05,830 --> 03:04:04,720 issues with censorship i'm not sure 5076 03:04:08,790 --> 03:04:05,840 about that 5077 03:04:10,630 --> 03:04:08,800 i'd prefer to do bit shoot because 5078 03:04:12,790 --> 03:04:10,640 that's like the wild wild west people 5079 03:04:14,950 --> 03:04:12,800 are saying all kinds of [\h__\h] on on there 5080 03:04:16,550 --> 03:04:14,960 nobody cares what you say 5081 03:04:18,230 --> 03:04:16,560 and to be clear i'm not going to be 5082 03:04:20,150 --> 03:04:18,240 saying irresponsible things and i'm 5083 03:04:21,590 --> 03:04:20,160 going to back up what i'm saying with 5084 03:04:23,190 --> 03:04:21,600 science and 5085 03:04:26,630 --> 03:04:23,200 some studies that i've been reading and 5086 03:04:29,910 --> 03:04:28,230 paul cargo i don't know what he means by 5087 03:04:33,190 --> 03:04:29,920 this or if it's just a joke i'm not a 5088 03:04:36,230 --> 03:04:33,200 gynecologist but i'll take a look 5089 03:04:39,830 --> 03:04:38,230 two grams of vitamin c a day plus 5090 03:04:41,110 --> 03:04:39,840 vitamin d 5091 03:04:42,630 --> 03:04:41,120 yeah uh 5092 03:04:44,469 --> 03:04:42,640 i got a whole 5093 03:04:46,550 --> 03:04:44,479 i you know i don't have it here but i 5094 03:04:47,750 --> 03:04:46,560 have this uh sort of 5095 03:04:49,910 --> 03:04:47,760 i don't even know what it is it's like a 5096 03:04:51,429 --> 03:04:49,920 little tote it looks like uh it looks 5097 03:04:53,269 --> 03:04:51,439 like a fanny pack but there's no belt 5098 03:04:56,070 --> 03:04:53,279 attached to it and it's all filled with 5099 03:05:00,070 --> 03:04:56,080 supplements so i haven't taken zinc 5100 03:05:01,590 --> 03:05:00,080 uh niacin vitamin c vitamin d vitamin e 5101 03:05:03,349 --> 03:05:01,600 a multivitamin 5102 03:05:05,429 --> 03:05:03,359 some other stuff i don't know i just 5103 03:05:07,349 --> 03:05:05,439 have this whole regimen 5104 03:05:09,990 --> 03:05:07,359 but you know what it's interesting i 5105 03:05:11,349 --> 03:05:10,000 stopped doing that and then i got sick 5106 03:05:12,950 --> 03:05:11,359 the whole time 5107 03:05:14,389 --> 03:05:12,960 for two years when my kids were in 5108 03:05:17,429 --> 03:05:14,399 school i was taking these supplements 5109 03:05:20,710 --> 03:05:17,439 religiously every day like 10 of them 5110 03:05:22,550 --> 03:05:20,720 and all this stuff uh never got sick my 5111 03:05:24,550 --> 03:05:22,560 kids went back to school i got lazy i 5112 03:05:25,990 --> 03:05:24,560 stopped at the supplements and i got 5113 03:05:29,349 --> 03:05:26,000 sick so uh 5114 03:05:31,110 --> 03:05:29,359 and now i got sick for a second time but 5115 03:05:32,790 --> 03:05:31,120 i think i feel better today than i did 5116 03:05:34,309 --> 03:05:32,800 yesterday we'll see what tomorrow brings 5117 03:05:35,910 --> 03:05:34,319 i'm going to try to get some rest thank 5118 03:05:37,429 --> 03:05:35,920 you jesse singer i will definitely try 5119 03:05:40,150 --> 03:05:37,439 to get some rest 5120 03:05:42,710 --> 03:05:40,160 so uh you're still on hot damn yeah i'm 5121 03:05:45,030 --> 03:05:42,720 about to bounce on out of here so we had 5122 03:05:47,590 --> 03:05:45,040 a really long day and somehow i streamed 5123 03:05:50,230 --> 03:05:47,600 for like uh four hours today and i 5124 03:05:51,910 --> 03:05:50,240 apologize again for the mess to screw up 5125 03:05:54,710 --> 03:05:51,920 with the with the interview tonight it 5126 03:05:57,349 --> 03:05:54,720 was completely my fault once again 5127 03:05:58,950 --> 03:05:57,359 i'm dming john on twitter going where's 5128 03:06:00,389 --> 03:05:58,960 he at why is he not here he's supposed 5129 03:06:02,389 --> 03:06:00,399 to be doing the interview right now but 5130 03:06:03,830 --> 03:06:02,399 it turns out that he's emailing me going 5131 03:06:05,750 --> 03:06:03,840 where's the link i thought we're doing 5132 03:06:07,269 --> 03:06:05,760 an interview right now and we got our 5133 03:06:09,030 --> 03:06:07,279 singles crossed i wasn't checking my 5134 03:06:11,349 --> 03:06:09,040 emails he wasn't checking his twitter 5135 03:06:13,429 --> 03:06:11,359 hey it all worked out we got him and boy 5136 03:06:14,389 --> 03:06:13,439 what a fun interview that was 5137 03:06:16,389 --> 03:06:14,399 right 5138 03:06:17,510 --> 03:06:16,399 i had a great time tonight i hope you 5139 03:06:19,670 --> 03:06:17,520 did too 5140 03:06:21,349 --> 03:06:19,680 uh i want to thank each and every one of 5141 03:06:23,670 --> 03:06:21,359 you for joining us tonight i especially 5142 03:06:25,670 --> 03:06:23,680 want to thank all the kind and generous 5143 03:06:27,429 --> 03:06:25,680 supporters and benefactors who sent us 5144 03:06:28,950 --> 03:06:27,439 super chat we're going to do one last 5145 03:06:30,870 --> 03:06:28,960 thing here and check in with the paypal 5146 03:06:32,870 --> 03:06:30,880 donation some people don't like that 5147 03:06:34,630 --> 03:06:32,880 super chat and they would prefer to send 5148 03:06:37,429 --> 03:06:34,640 a paypal donation and i want to remind 5149 03:06:39,670 --> 03:06:37,439 you that we are a viewer supported show 5150 03:06:40,710 --> 03:06:39,680 uh so 5151 03:06:43,030 --> 03:06:40,720 uh 5152 03:06:44,389 --> 03:06:43,040 if we are broadcasting live 5153 03:06:46,469 --> 03:06:44,399 and you're in the live chat you can 5154 03:06:49,190 --> 03:06:46,479 always send a super chat but if the 5155 03:06:51,349 --> 03:06:49,200 broadcast has ended and you are just 5156 03:06:53,269 --> 03:06:51,359 listening to a replay and you still want 5157 03:06:55,990 --> 03:06:53,279 to support our show you can go to the 5158 03:06:57,670 --> 03:06:56,000 description of the video here in the 5159 03:07:00,790 --> 03:06:57,680 video description is instructions to 5160 03:07:03,110 --> 03:07:00,800 send a paypal donation just remember to 5161 03:07:05,349 --> 03:07:03,120 uh add your add a note put your chat 5162 03:07:07,670 --> 03:07:05,359 room user id and anything you want us to 5163 03:07:08,870 --> 03:07:07,680 shout out and we will 5164 03:07:12,630 --> 03:07:08,880 right 5165 03:07:14,630 --> 03:07:12,640 uh and our last paypal donation uh was a 5166 03:07:17,190 --> 03:07:14,640 kind and generous 10 great britain 5167 03:07:19,510 --> 03:07:17,200 pounds from uh 5168 03:07:21,269 --> 03:07:19,520 moody mongol who says great work stephen 5169 03:07:23,590 --> 03:07:21,279 get yourself some extra eggnog this 5170 03:07:25,110 --> 03:07:23,600 christmas praise the cash so thank you 5171 03:07:27,269 --> 03:07:25,120 moody mongol for kindness your 5172 03:07:28,870 --> 03:07:27,279 generosity and your support 5173 03:07:30,790 --> 03:07:28,880 uh the other thing that i should remind 5174 03:07:32,710 --> 03:07:30,800 everybody is it's not always about money 5175 03:07:34,950 --> 03:07:32,720 how to support us here there's one other 5176 03:07:36,469 --> 03:07:34,960 way that you can really help us and this 5177 03:07:38,950 --> 03:07:36,479 definitely helps and that is to like 5178 03:07:40,630 --> 03:07:38,960 comment subscribe share these videos 5179 03:07:42,230 --> 03:07:40,640 send them to your friends 5180 03:07:44,309 --> 03:07:42,240 share them on twitter share them on your 5181 03:07:46,230 --> 03:07:44,319 instagram share them anywhere that you 5182 03:07:47,910 --> 03:07:46,240 can on facebook 5183 03:07:50,550 --> 03:07:47,920 if you have some friends that like these 5184 03:07:51,429 --> 03:07:50,560 strange conspiracy and esoteric topics 5185 03:07:53,349 --> 03:07:51,439 please 5186 03:07:54,469 --> 03:07:53,359 copy the video link send it to your 5187 03:07:57,750 --> 03:07:54,479 friends 5188 03:08:00,550 --> 03:07:57,760 send it through dm pm email email some 5189 03:08:02,230 --> 03:08:00,560 people send our channel link address out 5190 03:08:05,110 --> 03:08:02,240 and make sure that you take a few 5191 03:08:07,190 --> 03:08:05,120 moments if you can like this video smash 5192 03:08:09,670 --> 03:08:07,200 that like button because youtube loves 5193 03:08:11,910 --> 03:08:09,680 it and then youtube will love our show 5194 03:08:13,910 --> 03:08:11,920 more and recommend us more and we'll get 5195 03:08:16,389 --> 03:08:13,920 a bigger bull horn we'll get more 5196 03:08:18,790 --> 03:08:16,399 viewers and that is certainly in our 5197 03:08:20,230 --> 03:08:18,800 show's best interest 5198 03:08:21,990 --> 03:08:20,240 finally i want to remind everybody if 5199 03:08:24,150 --> 03:08:22,000 you're listening in audio podcast land 5200 03:08:26,469 --> 03:08:24,160 you're missing half the fun 5201 03:08:28,389 --> 03:08:26,479 go over to youtube put truth seekers one 5202 03:08:29,910 --> 03:08:28,399 word in the search bar look for me the 5203 03:08:31,910 --> 03:08:29,920 strange guy with the sunglasses that 5204 03:08:34,150 --> 03:08:31,920 would be me stephen campion your host 5205 03:08:35,990 --> 03:08:34,160 here on truth seekers and once you find 5206 03:08:37,910 --> 03:08:36,000 our channel it's very easy just put true 5207 03:08:39,990 --> 03:08:37,920 seekers in the youtube search bar we pop 5208 03:08:41,910 --> 03:08:40,000 right up you see me with the sunglasses 5209 03:08:43,990 --> 03:08:41,920 with that avatar 5210 03:08:45,990 --> 03:08:44,000 hit that subscribe button 5211 03:08:47,990 --> 03:08:46,000 smash the notification bell and the next 5212 03:08:50,550 --> 03:08:48,000 time we do a live broadcast you'll be 5213 03:08:53,429 --> 03:08:50,560 notified and you can come here and take 5214 03:08:56,469 --> 03:08:53,439 part in the live chat you heard tonight 5215 03:08:59,030 --> 03:08:56,479 i let my guest i let my audience ask the 5216 03:09:01,429 --> 03:08:59,040 guest as many questions as we can fit in 5217 03:09:03,349 --> 03:09:01,439 so if you have a particular 5218 03:09:05,030 --> 03:09:03,359 interest in a guest and you always 5219 03:09:07,030 --> 03:09:05,040 wondered something and you want to ask a 5220 03:09:09,990 --> 03:09:07,040 question to the guest we hey we let you 5221 03:09:12,230 --> 03:09:10,000 do that here uh and there's always a 5222 03:09:14,950 --> 03:09:12,240 lively and interesting discussion in the 5223 03:09:16,710 --> 03:09:14,960 live chat people come here some people 5224 03:09:18,469 --> 03:09:16,720 come here just to socialize with cool 5225 03:09:20,630 --> 03:09:18,479 people who are interested in these cool 5226 03:09:21,429 --> 03:09:20,640 strange topics and i want to let you 5227 03:09:23,110 --> 03:09:21,439 know 5228 03:09:26,389 --> 03:09:23,120 if you're not already here for the live 5229 03:09:28,870 --> 03:09:26,399 broadcast you are most welcome here we 5230 03:09:30,630 --> 03:09:28,880 welcome you here and we want to have you 5231 03:09:33,190 --> 03:09:30,640 here we want your input we want your 5232 03:09:35,269 --> 03:09:33,200 questions we want your participation and 5233 03:09:37,429 --> 03:09:35,279 that interactivity it's a big part of 5234 03:09:39,750 --> 03:09:37,439 our show here um 5235 03:09:42,229 --> 03:09:39,760 what can i say we're trying to build a 5236 03:09:44,150 --> 03:09:42,239 bigger bullhorn and certainly there's a 5237 03:09:45,269 --> 03:09:44,160 lot of people listening in audio podcast 5238 03:09:46,950 --> 03:09:45,279 land 5239 03:09:48,790 --> 03:09:46,960 that aren't here for the live broadcast 5240 03:09:50,790 --> 03:09:48,800 so come on over to youtube put true 5241 03:09:53,190 --> 03:09:50,800 seekers in the search bar it's easy to 5242 03:09:55,190 --> 03:09:53,200 find us smash the subscribe button and 5243 03:09:57,750 --> 03:09:55,200 be a part of our live taping and 5244 03:10:00,389 --> 03:09:57,760 broadcasts here remember we do the show 5245 03:10:02,309 --> 03:10:00,399 live and tape it and then it goes over 5246 03:10:03,269 --> 03:10:02,319 to the audio podcast distribution 5247 03:10:06,309 --> 03:10:03,279 network 5248 03:10:09,590 --> 03:10:06,319 so please come on over and enjoy the 5249 03:10:13,110 --> 03:10:11,190 and that girl jessica reminding 5250 03:10:15,030 --> 03:10:13,120 everybody kindly yes please do use 5251 03:10:16,550 --> 03:10:15,040 paypal because it means the show doesn't 5252 03:10:18,630 --> 03:10:16,560 lose 30 5253 03:10:21,190 --> 03:10:18,640 that's right paypal takes just a little 5254 03:10:23,349 --> 03:10:21,200 bit of it it doesn't take a whole 30 5255 03:10:25,750 --> 03:10:23,359 and i especially encourage people 5256 03:10:28,150 --> 03:10:25,760 especially look it's december and some 5257 03:10:29,830 --> 03:10:28,160 people are broke i get that i'm broke 5258 03:10:32,309 --> 03:10:29,840 but some people i don't know what it is 5259 03:10:34,550 --> 03:10:32,319 about december it's the holidays people 5260 03:10:36,710 --> 03:10:34,560 are feeling uh generous 5261 03:10:39,190 --> 03:10:36,720 so some people are sending very 5262 03:10:41,269 --> 03:10:39,200 large generous uh 5263 03:10:44,150 --> 03:10:41,279 contributions if you're going to send a 5264 03:10:46,229 --> 03:10:44,160 big large contribution please do send it 5265 03:10:48,630 --> 03:10:46,239 through paypal so that we could keep a 5266 03:10:50,950 --> 03:10:48,640 little more of it and we will certainly 5267 03:10:53,349 --> 03:10:50,960 still thank you we read every single 5268 03:10:55,429 --> 03:10:53,359 paypal and thank every single person 5269 03:10:57,510 --> 03:10:55,439 that sends money through paypal we thank 5270 03:11:00,229 --> 03:10:57,520 every single person that sends 5271 03:11:02,630 --> 03:11:00,239 anything through the super chats and we 5272 03:11:04,070 --> 03:11:02,640 thank all new patreon supporters i 5273 03:11:05,349 --> 03:11:04,080 didn't mention patreon that's another 5274 03:11:06,790 --> 03:11:05,359 way that you could support us for as 5275 03:11:08,950 --> 03:11:06,800 little as a dollar a month you can go 5276 03:11:10,790 --> 03:11:08,960 over to patreon you can get some extra 5277 03:11:12,550 --> 03:11:10,800 content we're doing some patreon only 5278 03:11:15,190 --> 03:11:12,560 streams we 5279 03:11:16,150 --> 03:11:15,200 uh do a video show journal talking about 5280 03:11:17,830 --> 03:11:16,160 the show 5281 03:11:19,670 --> 03:11:17,840 every month and what's coming up next 5282 03:11:21,590 --> 03:11:19,680 month it's sort of a backstage pass 5283 03:11:23,429 --> 03:11:21,600 there's just some extra content there 5284 03:11:25,349 --> 03:11:23,439 but i always say this if you're broke 5285 03:11:26,870 --> 03:11:25,359 and a big fan of the show we're having a 5286 03:11:29,990 --> 03:11:26,880 tough time just send me an email 5287 03:11:31,750 --> 03:11:30,000 trueseeker show gmail.com say hey can i 5288 03:11:33,510 --> 03:11:31,760 get the paypal benefits don't tell me 5289 03:11:35,110 --> 03:11:33,520 what you know i don't need any specifics 5290 03:11:36,710 --> 03:11:35,120 of why you're having a tough time and 5291 03:11:38,790 --> 03:11:36,720 it's not that i'm not interested i just 5292 03:11:40,550 --> 03:11:38,800 feel it's none of my business my point 5293 03:11:42,389 --> 03:11:40,560 is that i don't like putting stuff 5294 03:11:44,469 --> 03:11:42,399 behind a paywall but it's a necessary 5295 03:11:45,830 --> 03:11:44,479 thing for us to do that my point is if 5296 03:11:47,510 --> 03:11:45,840 you're a big supporter of the show and 5297 03:11:49,670 --> 03:11:47,520 you'd like that content 5298 03:11:51,269 --> 03:11:49,680 whatever's going on just email me and i 5299 03:11:53,750 --> 03:11:51,279 put you on a list and then i send you 5300 03:11:55,269 --> 03:11:53,760 out the patreon links manually when i 5301 03:11:57,349 --> 03:11:55,279 post them i do that every month for 5302 03:11:58,870 --> 03:11:57,359 people and many people their situation 5303 03:12:00,870 --> 03:11:58,880 improves and then they give me the 5304 03:12:02,630 --> 03:12:00,880 dollar or more and remember it's a 5305 03:12:04,950 --> 03:12:02,640 dollar or more some people are very 5306 03:12:06,070 --> 03:12:04,960 generous and i'm thankful for every one 5307 03:12:07,990 --> 03:12:06,080 of you 5308 03:12:09,269 --> 03:12:08,000 i'm so blown away 5309 03:12:11,910 --> 03:12:09,279 uh that there's people all over the 5310 03:12:13,830 --> 03:12:11,920 world tonight we had people from norway 5311 03:12:15,190 --> 03:12:13,840 were throwing money in my hat right 5312 03:12:17,030 --> 03:12:15,200 we've got people from england throwing 5313 03:12:20,229 --> 03:12:17,040 money in my hat canada 5314 03:12:22,870 --> 03:12:20,239 japan it is crazy mexico 5315 03:12:24,469 --> 03:12:22,880 and uh it warms my heart to see so many 5316 03:12:26,950 --> 03:12:24,479 people throwing a couple of bucks in my 5317 03:12:29,030 --> 03:12:26,960 hat to keep the show going archaic 5318 03:12:30,630 --> 03:12:29,040 revival yes do you venmo no but i'm 5319 03:12:33,030 --> 03:12:30,640 going to sign up for that in cash app i 5320 03:12:35,429 --> 03:12:33,040 want to make it as easy as possible plan 5321 03:12:38,229 --> 03:12:35,439 b says 30 yes that's what youtube takes 5322 03:12:40,309 --> 03:12:38,239 from the super chats so for example 5323 03:12:43,030 --> 03:12:40,319 uh you know if somebody sends ten 5324 03:12:43,670 --> 03:12:43,040 dollars i really only get like seven of 5325 03:12:45,110 --> 03:12:43,680 it 5326 03:12:46,630 --> 03:12:45,120 um 5327 03:12:47,910 --> 03:12:46,640 it is what it is though we're thankful 5328 03:12:50,630 --> 03:12:47,920 for the super chats because it's the 5329 03:12:51,910 --> 03:12:50,640 most convenient way and people prefer it 5330 03:12:53,429 --> 03:12:51,920 i don't know it's just something easy 5331 03:12:54,870 --> 03:12:53,439 about hitting that money button and plus 5332 03:12:57,269 --> 03:12:54,880 the recognition because you get the 5333 03:13:00,150 --> 03:12:57,279 recognition in the live chat your 5334 03:13:01,590 --> 03:13:00,160 comment posts real big with the colors 5335 03:13:04,550 --> 03:13:01,600 and everybody gets to see that you 5336 03:13:06,070 --> 03:13:04,560 supported the show right 5337 03:13:07,830 --> 03:13:06,080 that girl jessica says we love a 5338 03:13:10,070 --> 03:13:07,840 gracious host well i try to be as 5339 03:13:12,150 --> 03:13:10,080 gracious as i can be and i mean that 5340 03:13:15,349 --> 03:13:12,160 about the patreon benefits and the 5341 03:13:17,269 --> 03:13:15,359 reason i started doing that is because 5342 03:13:19,190 --> 03:13:17,279 somebody messaged me 5343 03:13:21,349 --> 03:13:19,200 and they told me their whole story and i 5344 03:13:22,870 --> 03:13:21,359 felt terrible because i know them i know 5345 03:13:24,229 --> 03:13:22,880 they were i'm not going to name them 5346 03:13:26,550 --> 03:13:24,239 it's their business 5347 03:13:28,710 --> 03:13:26,560 they were in the live chat every show 5348 03:13:31,670 --> 03:13:28,720 and they were very big supporters i seen 5349 03:13:35,110 --> 03:13:31,680 them on social media sharing every show 5350 03:13:37,349 --> 03:13:35,120 i seen them commenting on every show big 5351 03:13:39,510 --> 03:13:37,359 supporter of the show and 5352 03:13:41,110 --> 03:13:39,520 they reached out to me and told me you 5353 03:13:43,190 --> 03:13:41,120 know how much they enjoyed the show and 5354 03:13:46,229 --> 03:13:43,200 then they told me this whole sad story 5355 03:13:47,990 --> 03:13:46,239 about how you know covid and all these 5356 03:13:50,630 --> 03:13:48,000 things affected their 5357 03:13:52,630 --> 03:13:50,640 financial life and how much they would 5358 03:13:55,110 --> 03:13:52,640 really like to support me on patreon and 5359 03:13:56,950 --> 03:13:55,120 get those extra benefits but you know x 5360 03:13:58,229 --> 03:13:56,960 y or z's go and i felt terrible and i 5361 03:14:00,229 --> 03:13:58,239 just said 5362 03:14:02,630 --> 03:14:00,239 here it is take it 5363 03:14:04,389 --> 03:14:02,640 i hope you do better soon and they did 5364 03:14:05,590 --> 03:14:04,399 but you know they made me aware that 5365 03:14:07,750 --> 03:14:05,600 there's people out there that aren't 5366 03:14:09,429 --> 03:14:07,760 really supporting me and 5367 03:14:11,110 --> 03:14:09,439 i don't need a dollar that bad i would 5368 03:14:14,070 --> 03:14:11,120 much rather just give it to you and have 5369 03:14:15,750 --> 03:14:14,080 your support and and you're you know 5370 03:14:17,750 --> 03:14:15,760 sharing the videos or helping us in 5371 03:14:19,910 --> 03:14:17,760 other ways there's all kinds of ways 5372 03:14:22,150 --> 03:14:19,920 that you can support the show 5373 03:14:23,670 --> 03:14:22,160 so what can i say folks i want to thank 5374 03:14:25,429 --> 03:14:23,680 you guys especially for indulging me 5375 03:14:26,950 --> 03:14:25,439 with two parts on what should have been 5376 03:14:27,750 --> 03:14:26,960 a one part show 5377 03:14:29,510 --> 03:14:27,760 but 5378 03:14:30,469 --> 03:14:29,520 i always say this 5379 03:14:32,790 --> 03:14:30,479 you know 5380 03:14:34,710 --> 03:14:32,800 uh this is a live show you get warts and 5381 03:14:36,389 --> 03:14:34,720 all you got to see me make a mistake 5382 03:14:37,910 --> 03:14:36,399 earlier but i'm telling you i learned 5383 03:14:39,830 --> 03:14:37,920 from it and that'll never happen again 5384 03:14:40,950 --> 03:14:39,840 i'm checking email and twitter and 5385 03:14:43,190 --> 03:14:40,960 facebook 5386 03:14:44,469 --> 03:14:43,200 before every show if there's an issue 5387 03:14:46,630 --> 03:14:44,479 with a guest 5388 03:14:48,550 --> 03:14:46,640 uh not being here because the 5389 03:14:50,790 --> 03:14:48,560 miscommunication is there's it's 5390 03:14:53,110 --> 03:14:50,800 inexcusable that i'm sorry that happened 5391 03:14:55,510 --> 03:14:53,120 my fault won't happen again i always 5392 03:14:57,030 --> 03:14:55,520 learn from my mistakes or i try to 5393 03:14:58,790 --> 03:14:57,040 you always hear me say this i'm always 5394 03:15:00,389 --> 03:14:58,800 happy when there's an audience thank you 5395 03:15:02,950 --> 03:15:00,399 very much for coming here and being a 5396 03:15:05,510 --> 03:15:02,960 part of mine we had an amazing 5397 03:15:07,190 --> 03:15:05,520 uh we had amazing both shows there were 5398 03:15:08,229 --> 03:15:07,200 so many people here i couldn't believe 5399 03:15:10,870 --> 03:15:08,239 it right 5400 03:15:12,389 --> 03:15:10,880 and i'm glad for that that and i again 5401 03:15:13,670 --> 03:15:12,399 apologize to the people who showed up to 5402 03:15:15,990 --> 03:15:13,680 the first show if you want to get some 5403 03:15:17,990 --> 03:15:16,000 background information and yeah it's in 5404 03:15:20,309 --> 03:15:18,000 the first one part one part two is the 5405 03:15:22,950 --> 03:15:20,319 interview which we are wrapping up right 5406 03:15:24,950 --> 03:15:22,960 now i want to thank my amazing guest 5407 03:15:26,710 --> 03:15:24,960 john william warner the fourth i hope 5408 03:15:28,229 --> 03:15:26,720 that will be the first in a series 5409 03:15:29,910 --> 03:15:28,239 because uh 5410 03:15:31,910 --> 03:15:29,920 he's an interesting guy 5411 03:15:34,229 --> 03:15:31,920 right interesting guy 5412 03:15:35,910 --> 03:15:34,239 with an amazing family history that i'm 5413 03:15:38,950 --> 03:15:35,920 fascinated by 5414 03:15:39,910 --> 03:15:38,960 and i i really enjoy his takes on many 5415 03:15:43,190 --> 03:15:39,920 things 5416 03:15:44,710 --> 03:15:43,200 and i also want to say 5417 03:15:45,830 --> 03:15:44,720 one of the reasons that i'm glad for 5418 03:15:49,910 --> 03:15:45,840 this show 5419 03:15:51,110 --> 03:15:49,920 wouldn't got to talk to him in person i 5420 03:15:53,670 --> 03:15:51,120 would have got to 5421 03:15:57,030 --> 03:15:53,680 listen to other interviews right so this 5422 03:15:59,110 --> 03:15:57,040 show gives me a passport into 5423 03:16:01,670 --> 03:15:59,120 it gets me access to some of these 5424 03:16:03,110 --> 03:16:01,680 incredible people and i've gotten to you 5425 03:16:05,990 --> 03:16:03,120 guys know this i have gotten to 5426 03:16:07,429 --> 03:16:06,000 interview some amazing incredible people 5427 03:16:10,630 --> 03:16:07,439 because of this show 5428 03:16:13,510 --> 03:16:10,640 so i am thankful and humbled by 5429 03:16:15,110 --> 03:16:13,520 my position here and my ability to do 5430 03:16:17,429 --> 03:16:15,120 that and 5431 03:16:19,830 --> 03:16:17,439 i the the whole point of the show is not 5432 03:16:22,630 --> 03:16:19,840 just that i get to do that but i get to 5433 03:16:25,510 --> 03:16:22,640 take you along with me for the journey 5434 03:16:27,349 --> 03:16:25,520 and tonight and today has been an an 5435 03:16:29,510 --> 03:16:27,359 amazing part of this journey i will 5436 03:16:31,429 --> 03:16:29,520 never forget thank you for being a part 5437 03:16:33,590 --> 03:16:31,439 of that journey so until next time 5438 03:16:38,950 --> 03:16:33,600 friends my name is steven cambion good 5439 03:16:38,960 --> 03:16:50,950 [Music] 5440 03:16:50,960 --> 03:16:54,280 so 5441 03:16:54,290 --> 03:17:05,990 [Music] 5442 03:17:20,940 --> 03:17:08,930 so 5443 03:17:20,950 --> 03:17:45,510 [Music] 5444 03:17:45,520 --> 03:17:48,970 so 5445 03:17:59,630 --> 03:17:57,940 [Music] 5446 03:18:11,830 --> 03:17:59,640 [Applause] 5447 03:18:13,570 --> 03:18:11,840 [Music] 5448 03:18:51,050 --> 03:18:13,580 so